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Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Yes, Mr. Martin, the US government illegally invaded the lawfully seceded states.

The rationale for the invasion was pure Yankee greed, the southern states were providing over 80% of the US government budget and had been for decades. The Europeans had no need for the shoddy manufactured goods from the northeastern states, but they loved our cotton and other things we produced.

After 1865 until World War Two, the Yankee Empire, what it had become after the conquest of the southern states, kept wages in the south to about half what they were in the north, until the mass immigration from eastern Europe encouraged by those same Yankee Empire war lords occurred.

As for the rejection of the 12 year reign of terror against southerners, pathetically called "Reconstruction", that was bound to happen. Too bad "Reconstruction II" began in the 1950s and continues to this day.

We Southern Nationalists will end that.

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Posted by Pat Hines on December 16, 2017 at 5:35 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Lincoln was far from perfect, he was a racist, and probably a sexist and a homophobe. He did not push for equal rights for women or to legalize homosexuality. But at least he ended the legalized slavery here. There was no genocide in the civil war. Though of course there were abuses on both sides. Both sides killed some civilians and destroyed some buildings. The US army at first did not allow blacks, but later Lincoln reversed himself and did allow blacks to join. Later even the Confederate army had a few blacks, but those were mainly slaves ordered to fight. But had the Confederacy been allowed to secede, we might still have legal slavery here. It was very profitable for the slave owners. And they did not even allow freedom of speech or press here in the south, any criticism of slavery was banned. So even southern whites who did not own slaves usually thought this racist slavery was good. After the US won, they soon imposed Reconstruction on the south, but there was too much resistance from the southern whites, so finally the US government gave up and let the south create those racist segregation laws, even denying blacks here the right to vote. Until finally the US government and courts decided to crack down on the racists dominating the life here, starting with the Supreme Court decision desegregating the schools in 1954, though it still took some years before the government started enforcing this decision and other decisions.
But, zee, if you want the government to provide jobs for everyone, that is a very inefficient economic model, to have all business government owned, and it cannot work in a democracy. After all, if the government owns all the media, there is no freedom, there is only propaganda coming from the media. I was born in a country like that, our parents decided to escape and take us with them, so that is how we came to America, to a land of freedom. So of course the government could not go and provide jobs for all the freed blacks, they had to go and look for a job like everyone else. Of course they had a disadvantage as they were initially usually illiterate, most southern states banned the teaching of slaves how to read and write.

Posted by Tom Martin on December 16, 2017 at 4:12 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Im glad Lincoln is on the penny, because it reminds me how worthless a leader he was everytime I see one on the ground and don't pick it up.

Lincoln was a MAFIA/BANKING/Industrialist monster not an abolitionist.


Lets put a Plaque on the Lincoln memorial that describes him as a genocidal maniac bent on organized weapons manufacturing production slavery for all.

He didn't correctly set a roadmap to slave integration or empowerment. He murdered his neighbors fellow countrymen, and took their land. He made LAWS to do so. We have court records of him dividing the materials that are used to fight the civil war between the states. He SOLD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

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Posted by zee on December 16, 2017 at 11:03 AM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

The only solution that the north provided was GENOCIDE. The north didn't draw up plans to incorporate blacks into its society OR treat them fairly. It simply FREED them into the streets like homeless people with no land or job after DESTROYING THEIR CITIES with WARFARE. The north didn't have a fraction of the number of blacks the south had so it was an instrument of WAR used to harm the southern people by causing CHAOS AND TERROR.

Thus the NORTH sent immigrant soldiers rounded up from NY to SHOOT the people who lived here indiscriminately raping and killing them. If the UNION didn't hate blacks then why did the Union try to destroy all of their cities? All of their hospitals and libraries? All of their roads,bridges, and markets?

I believe it is even possible that if the south had defended itself from "the union" and sorted its own matters out economically blacks would have been reincorporated back into our society even faster than what has happened. IN THE SOUTH... where they would have had to work together and be neighbors..

IT WAS THE "UNION" that wouldn't let blacks serve combat roles in the military until after ww2 right? Talk about holding people back.

While I have also read, " LIES MY TEACHER TOLD ME" I do strongly disagree that the children's textbooks resulted in differences of opinion on history to this extent. I think anyone who reads deeper into the actual reality of the situation would come to that same conclusion. Slavery was just a rallying call to destroy the south and create a weapons manufacturing monopoly in the north for the CORRUPT NY RICH (Tammany Hall's corruption is one famous example).

BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR, The entire ORIGNAL USA ECONOMY was run off of INDENTURED SERVITUDE and SLAVERY (unless you were rich!). Everyone was pretty much a slave at one point in our countries history (unless they ran away and joined the Indians).

Once the white indentured servants got their freedom, the next class to come up was the slave class. The slaves had the help of the indentured servants. The BANK OF ENGLAND LOVING NORTH hated any change to their banking system that would thwart their corruption. Like many wars the CIVIL WAR WAS USED TO KILL OFF EXCESS UNEMPLOYED MALES on all sides THAT WERE DISCUSSING FREEDOM FROM THEIR PUPPET GOVERNMENT and long expired ECONOMIC MODEL.


Lincoln was a garbage leader who lacked any creative view or problem solving at all. It still pisses me off that he is on our pennies even. Lets switch him out on the five dollar bill for someone else. I hate LINCOLN, because I am a human being and he was a TOOLBOX FOR THE KILLERS AND BANKERS. It makes me mad we honor him with monuments and plaques when he was LIKE HITLER or worse.

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Posted by zee on December 16, 2017 at 10:38 AM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Pat, South Carolina was at that time a predominantly black state. The blacks wanted the US Army to come and liberate them. Of course the white minority deprived the black slaves of the right to vote, so they could not vote for a SC legislature that would welcome the US Army. Terrible. How undemocratic.

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Posted by Tom Martin on December 16, 2017 at 12:38 AM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Thanks for writing this.

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Posted by eden0718 on December 15, 2017 at 7:37 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Graham says military intervention in N. Korea 30 percent likely; N. Chs. moves ahead with annexation

It's not surprising to see SC on there. We live in our little Charleston bubble full of transplants anyway, monied people moving here or faux hipster transients that snag jobs in all the readily available food and bev *scene*. Take a drive outside through the state sometime and it's easy to see why it ranked #3

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Posted by sdog on December 15, 2017 at 7:18 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Graham says military intervention in N. Korea 30 percent likely; N. Chs. moves ahead with annexation

https://www.rt.com/news/413326-china-pales…

Again REAL NEWS compared to this BS. No wonder Graham wants foreign news agencies outlawed in the states.

Im not even getting involved in the debate about Israel, but this is REAL news. Not just the off cuff opinion from some politician. Unless you think that of the politicans of China in the news.

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Posted by zee on December 15, 2017 at 7:12 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Graham says military intervention in N. Korea 30 percent likely; N. Chs. moves ahead with annexation

what ever happened to speak softly but carry a big stick? This isn't even Grahams fault. This is the MEDIAS FAULT again for choosing this quote from the many hours of some random politicians day (thus advertising him).

The media is such a JOKE in this country even FOX NEWS (news international) was like, "peace, im out!" and sold their company to abc disney.

That should tell you media people what the population of the USA thinks of your garbage news reports.
Plus now there are only 4 media conglomerates left to rule them all. Fox WAS the fifth. This is a MONOPOLY that needs FIXED.

Or you guys can continue parroting down news stories from the top like royal clowns.

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Posted by zee on December 15, 2017 at 7:01 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Graham says military intervention in N. Korea 30 percent likely; N. Chs. moves ahead with annexation

When has Lyndsey Graham been 30 percent right in his highly coordinated hand up the ass puppet show he calls a career?

Sensationalism in politics? Talk about conspiracy...I wonder which weapons corporations fund his campaigns the most? This guy is the reason for the second Iraq war, and his administration believes they are the four horseman of the apocolypse.

If GRAHAM chooses to end humanity with nukes while playing god it is all the fault of you fools for going along with the show and putting him in POWER. He is as embarrassing as Nikki Haley to the world view, and basically seen as full of shit.

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Posted by zee on December 15, 2017 at 6:50 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

The lawfully seceded states were illegally invaded by the United States, the invasion was a violation of Article III, Section 3 of its constitution. The secessions were under powers reserved to the states by the Tenth Amendment. Since someone that's historically ignorant, Fort Sumter belonged to South Carolina as of 20 December 1860, it was unlawfully invaded by the US Army in the middle of the night on 26 December 1860. My ancestors gave them almost 4 months to cease and desist, when 12 US Navy warships steamed into Charleston Harbor, my ancestors gave them an ultimatum to vacate, when the invaders refused, we shelled them. No one died.

Those of you that think we southerners will forget the illegal invasion that saw the murders of over 500,000 of our people should think again. Like the Armenians, we'll never forget.

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Posted by Pat Hines on December 15, 2017 at 6:37 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Excellent article! As a "transplant" (in 1970), I keep trying to understand why Southern myopia about the past is so persistent, but I guess it takes a LONG time for many humans to accept uncomfortable truths. I spent two months with the American military in Kosovo. The Christians and Muslims there were still (culturally) engaged in a battle that had ended 500 years ago. Sigh...

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Posted by JAVSimson on December 15, 2017 at 4:21 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

Great article. The Gullah pronunciation of his name ("Kill-houn") speaks volumes.

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Posted by Kyle 1 on December 15, 2017 at 4:16 PM

Re: “How South Carolina history was hijacked to sell the Lost Cause

there are more slaves in the middle east particularly Saudi Arabia and other portions of the 7th. century mentality then there were ever in the south. why is the world condoning it? especially since so much more "enlightened " today ? actually it's about national rites and customs,power,wealth and of the course the almighty $

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Posted by John Byram on December 15, 2017 at 1:24 PM

Re: “An open letter to Scrooge McTrump

Happy Holidays, Jeremy, from a humanist atheist to a humanist Christian. While we may disagree on some theological points, we agree on all the substantive issues that matter.

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Posted by Herb Silverman on December 15, 2017 at 1:20 PM

Re: “An open letter to Scrooge McTrump

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: would someone PLEASE find the gas leak that is clearly in Zee's home?

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Posted by factoryconnection on December 15, 2017 at 9:58 AM

Re: “An open letter to Scrooge McTrump

The Treasury Department's Office of Tax Policy estimates that the administration's economic policies will increase tax revenue by $1.8 trillion over 10 years.

GO Trump!

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Posted by Tracy Jayne Klecker on December 15, 2017 at 12:49 AM

Re: “New SmartCards now available for peninsula's parking meters

All while there are raising rent costs for downtown shopkeepers! Brilliant! That has to be the best way to tank our local economy! good job. There will be plenty of more parking spots in a few years if they keep up decisions like this.

We should have more free parking on the penninsula, unless you guys continue to want retailers on king street to close down every year

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Posted by zee on December 14, 2017 at 11:49 PM

Re: “New SmartCards now available for peninsula's parking meters

Greedier and Greedier.


You people are asking too much from your citizens.
They are trying to kill off our businesses downtown so Tanger outlet can take it all! Pigs!!

Like people are going to continue to want to go downtown if after a while they start realizing it is at least 8 dollars a pop to find a garage just to go shopping.

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Posted by zee on December 14, 2017 at 11:44 PM

Re: “S.C. House sexual harassment policy outlines a range of misconduct, doesn't specify reporting window

Net neutrality article? someone? oh i forgot! Its you Mr. Weinstein!

Now i get it! This must be what all of these DISTRACTIONS from important events are for.

Entertainment media is slicker than a pawn shop representative

Posted by zee on December 14, 2017 at 11:29 PM
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