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Re: “USC Upstate closes gender studies center that booked lesbian play

Phillip, you are entirely correct. Think I must have read LuvAmerica's missive, gone temporarily nearsighted. Go collect a free shot at Santi's, tell 'em it's on me.

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Posted by StephenC on May 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM

Re: “USC Upstate closes gender studies center that booked lesbian play

Hey, HappyPessimist, you're doing yeoman work, I was gonna jump all over the 'your intolerance to my bigotry makes you intolerant as me!! No, you're worse!' thing, but already did that on that other thread, and it's like Canute flogging the tide. I mean, do you think these clowns are EVER going to be persuaded? It's like getting mad at gravity.

I'd hand you a bottle of water, while you keep slugging on the breach, but really, history's going to do our work for us. 'Time and I against any two' still works.
Phillip? Freefirezone? Your sons are dating black girls, and they have gay friends. Someone in your family, at least peripherally, is gay. Have some Robitussin for your wounds... Let that Tussin soak on in there, yeah, soak it up. Burns, right?

Patton Oswald - 'They're gonna miss all the cool stuff in life, and die angry.'

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Posted by StephenC on May 15, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Re: “Stifling speech at CofC and Mozilla

Oh, and Ned, Rick Santorum, who polled just behind Romney in SC, not only fucked up the sweater-vest for the rest of us, but does indeed want to ban birth control.
As he told CaffeinatedThoughts.com editor Shane Vander Hart in October, “One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country,” the former Pennsylvania senator explained. “It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”
He also wants to totally defund any federal funding for contraception. Hmm, wonder if he's also against out of wedlock births? Or abortion? If people have less access to birth control, what might possibly happen to birth rates?

He's running again in '16, so we'll likely hear this again.

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Posted by StephenC on May 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Re: “The haters may hate Southern Charm, but Thomas Ravenel has come out on top

I plan on making some kind of perpetual-motion device, to harness the power of Tennessee Williams spinning in his grave from the misuse of the Glass Menagerie metaphor. As they say, there's a certain kind of stupid where dumb people talk the way they think smart people talk.

Ms Barna, d/t your words here possibly being sincere, you've been taken off consideration for negotiating with Boko Haram for the return of those schoolgirls. I mean, you don't tug on Superman's cape, spit into the wind, or believe that a Ravenal changes his spots, especially with alkaloids in the room.
Kathryn's gonna get paid, whether or not that long-faced popped-collar bro-Magnon stays in the picture or gets caught with the maid next month.
Also, I hear she did Lumberg.

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Posted by StephenC on May 11, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Stifling speech at CofC and Mozilla

Your terms were intentionally hyperbolic? As Kent Brockman once said to Homer Simpson, “....well, touche.”

Yes, I'm familiar with Andrew Sullivan, I read his webpage daily. On
some subjects he's dead on, and has no problem being a punisher and ostracizer; he used his column to pound Alec Baldwin into oatmeal for homophobic comments, though Baldwin had actively donated to LBGT groups and wasn't CEO of anybody. On some subjects, though, he's the gay movement's Weepy Jesus, tottering towards the fainting couch while bewailing the Boat Being Rocked. Michelangelo Signorile  has a nice terse reply to Sullivan here -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/dear-andrew-sullivan-left_b_5088417.html
Andrew Sullivan occupies a niche usually held by people with these views, in that he'll never have to deal with the consequence of those holding contrary views. He lives in progressive NYNY, a city that allows him to pronounce that if one merchant discriminates against him for being gay, he can simply march across the street to the open-minded person vending the same service, bringing to mind the Gilded Age matron who wondered why the poor, who were sleeping under bridges, didn't simply stay at their country homes.
He's also rich, beeyotch, with a national syndicated bully pulpit, which pretty much insulates him from any inconveniences that might sully the lives of lesser gays.

Eich's 'punishment' was no other than the recognition that he was now hurting Mozilla's bottom line, period, the end. Duck Dynasty is still on the air because they contribute, at least 'till one of them is found with a buggered cabana boy in a kiddie pool filled with chocolate pudding, to A&E's bottom line.
Eich was causing Mozilla to hemorrhage workers. If you think a gay or gay friendly worker, or even better, a volunteer, should stay working under a boss with opinions like that, well, find one and let us know what they say.
You seem to be saying that someone's activist politics should not affect whether or not they make a living. Would you call on black people to patronize a BBQ joint that proudly flew the Stars'n'Bars? If you or your wife were Jewish, would you shop at a store that flew the Nazi flag? Would you go to their house for dinner? If so, say so. If not, explain why.
Keep in mind, this person is acting fully within the bounds of their conscience.
If the Klan-sponsored laundromat (“Trust us, We're Great with Sheets!”) goes bust, will you call for the community to patronize them, because to do other equates to 'punishment?' MLK faced opposition, therefore anyone being opposed is like MLK?
All men are mortal.
Socrates is a man.
Therefore, all men are Socrates.

I don't know what's with the past tense, but if you think that we've moved past the time where support for gay rights can have immediate physical repercussions, here's an experiment to try, to see the bounds of understanding and polite disagreement. Enlist a male friend of yours, head on down to, say, Pickens SC, and walk down Main Street, Saturday night around 10:30 while holding hands. Nuzzle his ear under a streetlight, once or twice. If for any reason some locals might voice objections, first verbally, then with boots and bats, use your words and project tolerance.

We seem to have a fundamental difference of opinion on what constitutes 'punishment,' and 'respect.' Remember that we're in a state (one of many) where parents feel punished knowing that their sons have gay friends, and their daughters are dating black guys. South Carolina is joining the 21st century, and many feel themselves under assault.
I feel no need to 'respect' their views, because their views are not consistent, logically or with the Bible. Re the gays (we can do the Hamites became the blacks et al another time), you have people quoting Leviticus who stuff their faces with shrimp, while wearing poly-blend shirts, who don't plan on stoning their daughters to death if they're not virgins on their wedding day. Or they're quoting Paul, who was all for plucking your eye out if it gave you horny thoughts, and specifically told slaves to obey their masters. These people are not even consistent with the rest of the bible they use as an authority, and I don't have to respect their view anymore than I have to respect a mathematician who states 2+2=5.
I mean, I can respect him as in, OK dude, go ahead and do your own taxes, but not as 'that's a perfectly sound position to take.'
Countering these peoples' boobism with rational arguments is usually a waste of time, as they've been conditioned to think countering arguments are a tool of the devil and that you're usually a pussy for even trying to reach out to them. There are a certain number of people who will always pine for the days when the fags were in the closet and the niggers knew their place, who gnash their teeth every time a famous person comes out and isn't immediately ruined or when a black guy marries a white woman, or becomes president, and for them there is no help. In the words of Patton Oswald, they're gonna miss everything cool in life and die angry.
You could call that punishment, I guess, but I don't know how you'd stop it, or why you'd want to.
The thing that DOES get those who think gays are kiddie-fiddlers and devilspawn to change their mind, if anything does, is to find that they know one, or even better, are related to one. When you hear about someone coming around in their views on homosexuality, this is almost always the case. As more young people feel free to both come out and to befriend those who do, and as crabby bigots retreat into alcohol-sodden rage and daytime TV and thence to the grave, we'll become the more tolerant country many of us wish for. Tolerance doesn't include tolerating intolerance.

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Posted by StephenC on May 11, 2014 at 1:07 PM

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