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Re: “Obama and the Democrats deny an age-old economic lesson

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. – Winston Churchill

Posted by thor_61 on March 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Re: “Refusing to allow 'I Believe' plates is an exercise in bad manners

Doug and FCB,
Our Gov't is of the people, by the people and for the people correct?
The majority of the people are religious (according to the US Census)
A majority of the religious in this country are either Protestant Christians, or Catholic Christians. (Again US Census)
It is unreasonable to expect that a Gov't that is of the people would not recognize that fact. (We are a representative democracy after all)

Having a separation of church and state does not mean that the state is to ignore the fact that religion exists or that the people it represents are overwhelmingly religious.
Indeed, if the Gov’t is to be expected to represent and reflect the people it must by definition incorporate the views of the people and that includes their religious views.

Separation of church and state is there to give a level playing field to those who are non-religious or who believe differently then the majority.
This is not a trivial protection by any means because being a member of a majority makes one more powerful and can give a political, financial, or even life advantage over a member of the minority in their pursuit of Life Liberty and Happiness..
That said, it does not grant power to the minority to force the majority to act differently and by extension the Government that is "By The People" is to reflect the views of that majority (While simultaneously protecting the rights of the minority)

Pulling from my earlier post.
Imagine that the majority is an elephant and the minority is a mouse.
The separation of church and state grants protection to the mouse by preventing the elephant from stomping him into toe jam.
It does not however grant power to the mouse such that it can force the elephant into not eating peanuts because it offends the mouse by reminding him that he is not an elephant as well.

The rub here is that a representative Gov’t must incorporate and represent the views of the majority without compromising the rights of the minority by giving an unfair majority advantage on things of consequence. Eg Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Posted by thor_61 on December 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM

Re: “Refusing to allow 'I Believe' plates is an exercise in bad manners

I hate to be the one to let you all know this, but there is no right or gaurantee from the constitution that you will not be offended by something.
If the words "I Believe" offend you I would say that you need to grow a thicker skin.

(see my previous post re: Jefferson Memorial)

Posted by thor_61 on December 30, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Re: “Refusing to allow 'I Believe' plates is an exercise in bad manners

Quotes from the Jefferson Memorial:
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?

"Almighty God hath created the mind free. All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens . . . are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion . . . No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship or ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion. I know but one code of morality for men whether acting singly or collectively."

I suppose if someone is offended by “I believe” being on a license plate then the Jefferson Memorial must make them really crazy !
What ? Are we going to tear down the Jefferson Memorial?

You people are ridicules.
The freedom to worship was granted so that the rights of the minority are protected, not to give the minority the power to rule over the majority.
Imagine it this way…
The majority is an elephant, and the minority is a mouse.
This right grants protection to the mouse so that the elephant is not allowed to stomp him into toe jam.
It does not give the mouse the right to compel the elephant into not eating peanuts because peanuts offend the mouse because it reminds him that he is not an elephant.

Grow up already.

Posted by thor_61 on December 29, 2008 at 5:14 PM

Re: “Keith Merrill and the Surfrider Foundation target cigarette butts and dog poop

As a smoker, and a soon to be dog owner let me say that was is called for here is common courtesy and respect.
When I am on the beach and finish a smoke I put it out by knocking the tobacco out and then put the butt either in my pocket, or back in the pack....No big deal.
Dog owners should clean up after their animal...Again just common courtesy and respect.

That said...I doubt if that will be enough to satisfy this guy..(Just like non-smoking sections were not enough either)

Posted by thor_61 on November 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM

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