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Re: “UPDATE: 30+ Charleston restaurants have signed on to the Strawless Summer Challenge

I remember when I was a kid back in the 1960's we had paper straws in school for our milk. I think we should look into going back to those. They were lightly waxed as I recall to help them hold their shape. They could be made of recycled paper and they would be sustainable and biodegradable. Sometimes the old ways really were better!

Posted by Paige Keith on June 27, 2017 at 1:02 PM

Re: “Rutledge Cab Co. offers up a hearty take on the doughnut burger, but is it worth the experience?

dustin waters? this is the same guy who critiques "southern charm"? his desire to fall short of dave barry is groan worthy as it is. to have any opinion on food made by professionals is not laughable but sad for a paper who desires any respect...this guy does not deserve a pulpit...he needs a bus pass.

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Posted by Mayzee Keller on June 27, 2017 at 4:05 AM

Re: “Rodney Scott’s drive-thru window is now open

This makes my day. Went here when they opened and have been back a few times since.

Posted by Mike Westerman on June 27, 2017 at 3:07 AM

Re: “Gentry Bar & Room packs flavor, but lacks focus

All you need to know about this place is it is run by JD Madison (same actor seen sometimes on the Southern Charm tv show). Go to www.charlestoncounty.org and look up the public records under the Clerk of Court section under this guys name. No commentary needed by me.

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Posted by Mike Westerman on June 27, 2017 at 3:04 AM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

Coming from NYC and being in the food business, 88% of restaurants go out of business in the first year. It's a very difficult business as we all know. I do agree we should support our neighborhood food joints. I hate Starbucks. We can't compare downtown restaurants to the out lying neighborhood restaurants. I never ate at Park Cafe because I didn't live in the area. But, from reading the posts, it seems they lost sight of who they were. They forgot the locals. You can't do that. I had been to Rutledge Cab Company and, I agree, not the same. Don't fix something that isn't broke. In fact I had a bad experience there. There were 5 of us and one ordered the dessert fondue. They had cut up fruit, pretzel and macaroons. I took one taste of the macaroon and told everyone not to eat it! It tasted off! I asked the waitress to come over and told her it had a weird taste. Like a pickle. ( I hv my degree in Pastry). So she goes to the kitchen and finds out that the staff stored the macaroons in the savory bins, and it was where the pickles were. She apologized. But I thought, how many people had eaten that the way it was!!!!
Point being? No one cares. And as someone pointed out, hard to find good people. I worked in NYC restaurants, and I know.

But, you have restaurants like 5 Loaves that is always busy. Why? Neighborhood place. Great, straight forward food. They cater to the neighborhood. Lost Dog out on Folly Beach. Yes, busy during the season. But, they are pretty busy off season. Great, straight forward food.

I say to myself, why don't we have more places like that? Why not a Greek Diner? I lived on James Island and there was not a decent place to go to. Actually Crust is pretty good. And they have managed to stay in business. I'm now living temporarily in West Ashley and there is nothing! At least to my liking. Ok, I went to 5 Guys for a burger. Big deal. Panera's? These are chains. Starbucks? Yeah, there is one off Sam Rittenberg. But are there any really good neighborhood restaurants? No. And, I'll be moving to John's Island. Forget that. Wild Olive and Fat Hen( which I don't like at all). Wild Olive is ok. But that is it! It's a gold mine out there and rents are still decent.

So the person who posted: good food, good prices and good service is doable. But, I would add consistency. If I love a certain dish, I want to know that every time I go, it's going to be the same.

In Manhattan, there are restaurants that have been in business for 30-35 years. There is a reason for that.

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Posted by lynnar on June 25, 2017 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

Ultimately, when talking about successful restaurants, there are at least three key markers: good food, good service and fair prices. Rodney Scott BBQ is successful because it meets (at least) two of the three (and, arguably the two most important: fair prices and good food quality). I think that if a restaurant wants to be successful, they can make up the difference in income from charging less for better quality food by the higher volume of customers this inevitably produces. It's risk/reward math, and I think it's the sure bet that can survive the ebbs and flows of our community's economic vitality.

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Posted by Matthew Doszkocs on June 24, 2017 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Chef Patrick Owens pairs a raw bar and pizza at his new Wood and Grain restaurant

The food was simply amazing and the ambiance would be a perfect place for a casual date night! Well done!

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Posted by Erin Lorick Pesavento on June 24, 2017 at 6:26 PM

Re: “Charleston food and bev design trend spotting: Shipping containers

Way cool. Brings homage to the history of Charleston's ports as well. Luv, Luv!

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Posted by Kaye Shaffer on June 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Gentry Bar & Room packs flavor, but lacks focus

The name alone speaks of confused identity. Bar & Room? What kind of room? What does one do in said Room? What does it mean?

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Posted by Riverside on June 24, 2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Rutledge Cab Co. offers up a hearty take on the doughnut burger, but is it worth the experience?

Hilarious, entertaining writing....you have to be a nutritional kamikaze to even think about ingesting a gut-bomb like the Glazed and Confused ....but Dustin Water's article gives warning!

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Posted by terese s. shelton on June 23, 2017 at 5:26 PM

Re: “Gentry Bar & Room packs flavor, but lacks focus

Agree - we actually really enjoyed our food but felt like we were eating a nice dinner in a sports bar? I had somewhat low expectations for the food though and was pleasantly surprised. The salmon and the Sides of carrots and macaroni were all excellent.

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Posted by C OB on June 23, 2017 at 2:08 PM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

The neighborhood cafes have to be comepetitive with all the big name restaurants I order to get any kind of labor help. That is the biggest problem in this industry now. There are too many restaurants opening and not enough back bone to support. ALL the restaurants are crying for help. Both front and back of the house. It's a big bidding war to get kitchen help. That's what's upping the prices on your menu. The labor!!!

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Posted by KC 1 on June 23, 2017 at 11:57 AM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

I definitely agree about how important it is to support your neighborhood businesses. But I also agree with those who say businesses need to identify with the community they are serving. The last time I had dinner at Park Cafe was well over a year ago. We were the only ones there, the dinner was fine, but not stellar, and we paid as much as dinner at FIG or HUSK would have been. That just doesn't compute. The setting and ambiance are low-end casual dining and that's what the menu should reflect. I think they turned away a lot of us early on, with the high dinner prices, a la carte menu items at lunch (making it hard to spend less than $20 per person unless you just eat avocado toast) and not very good coffee that was a buck more than any other coffee shop around.
I applaud their local focus on parking lot attractions, etc., but the menu seriously needs to reflect the neighborhood. And by the way, not all of us who live nearby are renters paying insane rent and mortgages. Some of us have been here a long time and would love to support an affordable neighborhood cafe.

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Posted by Riverside on June 23, 2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “Gentry Bar & Room packs flavor, but lacks focus

It seems like it is a "Whiles Only" establishment. For every time I walk by I only see Republican type WASPS only!

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Posted by Dean Major on June 23, 2017 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Gentry Bar & Room packs flavor, but lacks focus

"A man staring at one of the many television screens suddenly screams out in a calamitous manner." This line could describe dozens of 'new' establishments in Charleston. I know that I am far too quickly becoming an old lady, but I sure do miss the genteel Sermet's. For those ladies and gents that like to lunch, there are fewer and fewer places to go.

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Posted by Kimberly Hogan Hambric on June 23, 2017 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

What I learned from this is that people who gentrify a neighborhood don't bat an eyelash paying insane rent and mortgages but for some reason draw the line when it comes to the businesses created as a result of their gentrification charging proportional prices for their services.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on June 22, 2017 at 9:06 PM

Re: “UPDATE: 30+ Charleston restaurants have signed on to the Strawless Summer Challenge

I think this is a fantastic idea. But you're still going to have people who want to have a straw. For those people the restaurant should buy bags of Twizzlers so that people could bite off each end and use the Twizzler as a straw it works and it's edible

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Posted by Debbie Kocher Haynes on June 22, 2017 at 7:34 PM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

Affordability is the main reason I don't go to neighborhood places like Park Cafe, Little Jacks, Edmunds, B&B, etc on the regular.... they are just too pricey for regular dinner meals, regardless of how tasty their food may be. A couple $3 tacos with free chips and salsa from Santis is definitely more accessible.

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Posted by Golden Ratio on June 22, 2017 at 6:13 PM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

Don't get me wrong...I like Jack's Cafe...but you can whip up most of the stuff on their menu with cheap ingredients you already have in your kitchen. There's a reason why it's affordable. You can't really compare Jack's to other non-diner type restaurants.

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Posted by jbrick83 on June 22, 2017 at 3:36 PM

Re: “Support your neighborhood cafe, or you may lose it

I like Park Cafe, but I am a bruncher. I will also comment that Rutledge Cab is not what it used to be. The old menu was much better. The last time I ate there I did not finish my meal. It was overly spiced. In addition, the service is not what it used to be.

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Posted by jhark on June 22, 2017 at 3:32 PM
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