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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Guest Columnist

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Edgar, your statement of 'No crime has ever been committed with one' is incorrect. About 40 crimes with a suppressor are committed per year, however, most are home built.

Posted by Jshicke on October 16, 2017 at 12:41 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Also, your Obama admin approved bump fire stocks. Funny how Hillary cries about suppressors at 6 am following Vegas too, one week before bill was to be voted on. Hillary, up at 6am, lol

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Posted by Edgar Winter on October 13, 2017 at 7:39 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

And why is Muslim issues thrown into your agenda opinion piece?
Also, many Euro countrys, which many liberals want to emulate, mandate suppressors. They are just mufflers for guns.
No crime has ever been committed with one. Criminals commit crimes. US Citizens doing an ATF background check for a gun related item isnt the issue. Its cost and time. I have a silencer and an SBR.

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Posted by Edgar Winter on October 13, 2017 at 7:29 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

The laws do not apply to criminals, that is why they are criminals. Laws only suppress the law abiding citizens.

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Posted by Blu on October 13, 2017 at 6:18 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

From the ShotSpotter website:
"We have successfully, if not inadvertently, detected confirmed suppressed gunfire within our existing deployments."

However, they have not 'officially' tested the system with suppressed firearms. I am glad you mentioned it though as it was something I had not thought about until now, and had to go look.

Posted by Jshicke on October 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Ron, You realize that a suppressed pistol is not going to fit in your pants, Right? Most subcompact pistols used for concealed carry will not accept a threaded barrel and the standard length for a functional suppressor is 7 inches, add that to a 4 inch barrel on a 9mm pistol and you have an overall length of 14 inches. As far as sound suppression, gunshot = 145db = Motorhead concert, suppressed gunshot = 115db = Bruno Mars fans. Outside of a concert the suppressed gunshot is still detectable by ShotSpotter and will damage your hearing if unprotected.

Ali, Let's really call a spade a spade, It's not about Guns, It's about Control.

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Posted by wbwash on October 13, 2017 at 12:40 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Don't try and rationalize your point with Ron Liberte, he doesn't care about any ones point of view if its not marxist or a Democrat talking point.. I will say this is the only time he would probably agree with me.

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Posted by Randall Floyd on October 12, 2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Ron, you have a point, however, most rock concerts are already at ear damaging noise levels. I would bet you could fire a gun and still not hear it, suppressor or not. Most of the people in the Las Vegas concert were not aware they were being fired on until bodies started falling and people started running. These guns shots were from 400 yards distant, and so the noise level, while still audible, was severely reduced, and was mistaken for firecrackers.

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Posted by Jshicke on October 12, 2017 at 7:15 AM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Liberal scum. Come and take them.

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Posted by UNIDENTIFIABLE APPARITION on October 11, 2017 at 7:30 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

I get it's not like the movies. But a 30 decibel reduction is pretty significant. I'm just thinking that in a crowd, such as a concert or other event, there is already going to be so much noise and chaos that the reduction in noise from the weapon being used will only add to the danger and make life way more difficult for responders and victims alike.

In short, if people believe good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns, you would think the good guys would want their job to be easier.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on October 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

To the author: Thanks for getting the descriptions and vernacular correct. While I can disagree with some of your points, you at least sound like you researched before writing. However, I hope this is an opinion piece because you leave the realm of good journalism and head off onto a gun control rant with no basis of fact or sources.

Suppressors were banned in the 1930's in an attempt to thwart poaching during the depression, not due to widespread use by criminals. In fact, suppressors are rarely ever used in a crime. The one's that do, are usually homemade things. The act of committing a crime with a firearm equipped with a suppressor is a healthy term in prison. The mandatory sentence is 30 years; if the silencer was unlicensed, another 10 years can be added. Facing a potential 40 years IN ADDITION to the penalty for the actual crime committed, most criminals do not use them.

Shooting, even with suppressors, can damage your hearing. Shooting without them, even with hearing protection can damage your hearing. The claim that a suppressors will help save our hearing is not a jest, they can. Does that justify deregulating them? I will let the politicians decide that.

The proposed change is to eliminate the tax requirement and reduce the red tape required to purchase a suppressor. It does not make them legal (as you point out) because they are already legal. It does not expose the public to a more dangerous weapon. It makes them easier to obtain. The penalty for illegal use remains.

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Posted by Jshicke on October 11, 2017 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Hey Ron, the Suppressor lowers the volume, it does not eliminate it. When you see a movie where the guy shoots with a suppressor all you hear is a pffft, pffft, pffft. That's all Hollywood.

The suppressor lowers the sound by about 30 decibels. That takes the volume from a jet engine down to a subway train. Its still loud, but doesn't damage your hearing. We have used suppressors, but still wear ear plugs while doing it. Some small caliber, reduced load rounds, such as a sub-sonic .22LR, is pretty quiet, but the range is very limited, and it still sounds much louder than James Bond shooting the bad guys.

So, why use them if they do not make it quiet? Well, for one, it saves your hearing and the hearing of those around you. Shooting a firearm in an enclosed area, like a hunting blind, without a suppressor and hearing protection, can destroy your hearing with only one shot. Second, it reduces recoil of the firearm allowing you to shoot more accurately.

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Posted by Jshicke on October 11, 2017 at 1:19 PM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

Serious question: Many people carry in order to potentially protect themselves and others from other people with guns. Isn't loosening the restrictions on silencers kind of counter-intuitive to this? A person firing a silenced weapon into a crowd seems to be way more of a danger than a person firing a gun one can more easily detect.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on October 11, 2017 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Rep. Jeff Duncan's "Hearing Protection Act" is tone-deaf

thanks for your opinion of the 2nd Amendment. Many do not feel this way, including the founding fathers, records of their quotes on the 2nd amendment say otherwise. Please read their thoughts on it, instead of telling people that your opinion of the 2nd is a fact. There is no shortage of quotes explaining it from the people who wrote it.
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotat…

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Posted by Randall Floyd on October 11, 2017 at 8:02 AM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

I love how each comment has a Like and Dislike button. It's like a Yo Mama duel and the crowd is like ohhh. OHHHH. ohhh. DAMMMM. Even the neutral LOL got 4 likes.

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Posted by Keith Dee on October 8, 2017 at 12:36 AM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

Ima - Let's hang out when I am in town next. I bet we will get along great.

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Posted by Bushwick Bears on October 6, 2017 at 4:34 PM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

Bushwhip, can't wait to get old? Set your priorities, son. First you got to get adult.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on October 6, 2017 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

Ima, you sound like a straight up bitch! "And I have money and you won't!" What a fucking pussy ass response. You are criticizing his "better than you attitude" and then you post that "I got money" horseshit response. Hypocrite much?

No one needs your money. "Born a bleeding-heart Yankee Liberal, evolved into fiscally conservative, socially liberal something-or-other" reads to me "I have NO SPINE."

Glad you are old so you can die soon.

Showmoor: Yeah, it does. It means grow up and figure out that flags don't mean shit. Did you serve?

"Genius who know no bounds and accepts the fact that half the posters on CCP have no brains and most are young trolls with no life" is the bio of TROLL WITH NO LIFE.

Can't wait to get old and boring so I can spend all day online, shitting on people using the youth I wasted.

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Posted by Bushwick Bears on October 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

Speaking AND performing career?? Are we in the presence of a celebrity?? Why didn't you say so! You must be so successful that you can't comment using your real name. Look, I get it, the stress of all your friends hassling you makes it hard to run a UPS store part time. Either way, we all appreciate your craft sir. Keep doing the lords work. One unasked for yelp review of a BBQ restaurant at s time. Namaste.

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Posted by Joseph Coker on October 6, 2017 at 11:00 AM

Re: “Trying to make unlikable people laugh

Well sparky, no matter how much you bait, I'm not going to help save your failing career. I've had my speaking career, I've had my performing career. I'm retired now.
It doesn't necessarily take money to make money, creativity and hard work can work just as well.
And I have money and you won't.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on October 6, 2017 at 3:14 AM
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