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Re: “What to do when the population grows and housing options shrink

Thank you for writing this Charleston and the surrounding areas really need to understand they are pricing the very people that help make this a top tourist destination out of the rental/housing market. They are going the way of Hilton Head Island and Kiawah they will have to literally bus their workforce in if they don't do something about this. I have many a story of workers that make 9.00 to 10 dollars an hour not being able to afford a place to live that is a sad commentary on our area it really is.

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Posted by Denise Mosley on June 7, 2017 at 5:52 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Talk about First World Problems. I've lived in many cities - including downtown Charleston - and have found it to be quite diverse, with much greater racial harmony than others. I also thank God every day that I have had the opportunity to live here. This piece sounds like the typical victimhood narrative of a liberal. The people of London, Manchester, Paris, and Kabul should be so lucky to have such a petty incident as their primary concern.

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Posted by MsBayHaven on June 7, 2017 at 5:48 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

I am so glad you wrote this. I'm not sure what is happening in Charleston. I know the tourist trade has nearly always tended to whitewash Charleston history. I grew up hanging around downtown back in the mid to late 90's. I watched as the landscape changed and how they tried to bury done of the ugly things that built that town, or hide the contributions of non-white folks. Charleston has a diverse and complicated history that deserves more than it's history buried and to be gentrified to death. Thank you for this article.

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Posted by Chelsea Hall 1 on June 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Did you call the manager of the pedicab company to let it be known that the company has been represented in this less than acceptable manner? If you didn't make that call, you probably shouldn't have put it out on social media. And, saying that, I'm making it known to you that I was confused and unable to comprehend any point you attempted to make other than the comment made by the pedicab driver in this article. I believe that sarcasm of this nature is offensive and a cover-up for lack of comprehension of the topics mentioned. First and formost, stick with the facts and be gracious and kind.

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Posted by Catherine Eckles on June 7, 2017 at 3:02 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Personally I've never heard a pedicab mention welfare. I don't see any reason why they would, I chalk this one up to agenda driven fake news. Foghorn speaks the truth...

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Posted by Quillz on June 7, 2017 at 1:48 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

I live in a similar neighborhood and that's not the "point" of her piece. Perhaps you should reread the article, Ms. Gilchrist is clearly taking her run in with an unknown, rather uneducated pedicab driver and ballooning it into an indictment of the city's tourist industry. I know you're not obtuse, so I would suggest you go read some of Ms. Gilchrist previous agenda driven works.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on June 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Another example of why pedicab drivers shouldn't give out info to their riders. As a tour guide of 16 years, I often have to correct info my customers have received by cab drivers, bus driver, pedicab drivers. And, by the way, the "Charleston lie" has been perpetuated for about 300 years, and really kicked into high gear in the decades after "the Wah."

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Posted by wickedmark on June 7, 2017 at 1:30 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Mr or Ms Leghorn clearly did not understand the motivation of the original piece. CHS has always been a city with a diverse population. NOT equal in wealth distribution by any means, but as that disparity is recognized parity can start to be addressed-hopefully.
The writer GETS IT - without rancor that her neighborhood contains not only diverse neighbors, but in some cases dangerous situations. Her family lives with this reality & appreciates it. The pedi-cab driver(s) know nothing about the area & spout nonsense!

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Posted by cddittrich on June 7, 2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “What to do when the population grows and housing options shrink

So true all the things that make it great will gradually disappear. It's just common sense. Balance is severely necessary. If all the locals who made the city what it is cannot afford to live in their hometown then what's special about it again? It's like Charleston with no Charlestonians.

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Posted by eden0718 on June 7, 2017 at 1:05 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Not if it's from the same pedicab driver. Appalling is ISIS beheadings, it's not by being offended because you overheard a conversation by a person who peddles people around for a living.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on June 7, 2017 at 12:52 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

3 different episodes is not 'isolated'. Appalling.

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Posted by Katherine Lundy on June 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM

Re: “What to do when the population grows and housing options shrink

Love these arguments. You complain about sitting in traffic? Try it in Charlotte or Atlanta, or even Raleigh - what we have would be welcomed by those people with open arms. They have traffic , we have relatively mild inconvenience. And as for projecting growth, Atlanta, Charlotte, and even Raleigh started with a central Downtown and growth came in concentric circles, so for example, in Charlotte you have growing population areas equidistant and surrounding a central city. New comers have similar distant commutes. To achieve similar growth surrounding Charleston's peninsula that growth would have to extend to Hollywood and Ridgeville and McClellanville. Be realistic - ain't gonna happen.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on June 7, 2017 at 12:38 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

and this is why Charleston has a tour guide licensing process and why it is illegal for pedicabs to give tours. Next time you hear something like this, note the name of the cab company and notify the Tourism Commission. They'd love to hear about it.
And btw in over 10 years as a licensed tour guide I don't remember an instance of hearing a guide belittle the city. The smart-ass punk pedicab operators who violate both tour and traffic laws with impunity are the ones needing oversight.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on June 7, 2017 at 12:21 PM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

As you settle in to your own happy blandness, you pick up on a way to critique the rest of the city for their happy blandness? "Charleston's tourism industry uses its perception of its own power to belittle and diminish the very thing that gives a city its soul: its network of varying and blended neighborhoods." You base this righteous indignation on the comments from a couple of Pedicab drivers?

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Posted by Allen Bergstrazer on June 7, 2017 at 11:41 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Geez, I think it's simply ignorant pedicab people who needs to come up with things to say on the tour. I'd humor them one day by standing out by the street with signs describing who you are, a real show and tell experience for the tourists. I'll bet that pedicab will find another route!!

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Posted by Deb Baker on June 7, 2017 at 11:37 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Nice wrong "assumption" that I'm not black, lecturing us on being classy

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on June 7, 2017 at 11:22 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

"As for the African American experience..", the non-black person writes, insistent on educating readers, as he pulls from his own robust experiences of being Black in Charleston... innnncredible. Stay Classy folks.

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Posted by Benjamin Starr on June 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Perhaps you can meet with the pedicab folks and educate them on the impact of their informal tours and provide them some relevant info to share

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Posted by cyndi fisher on June 7, 2017 at 10:47 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

Now I understand why you haven't written for the CCP in a while.

You've taken a perceived "micro-aggression" - a passing remark from a pedicab driver (not exactly high on the intellectual PC scale, and who may or may have not be the same guy, according to you), - who made a disparaging comment about your neighborhood. You then take this isolated occurrence, which you fully admit was ridiculed by your friends when you posted it on Facebook and an example of you own challenges ("I can be a little prissy"),and attempt to turn it into an opinion piece about how the the tourist industry has turned Charleston into gentrification hell. From there you make broad baseless statements about the Charleston tourist industry and those who visit our fair city. As if these turistas are only interested in limiting their Holy City experience to the white bread cliches of horse drawn carriages, over priced King Street meals and the trap we call the City Market.

The reality is that the vast majority of people who traveled here (and move to, like you) want to experience the very diversity and hospitality that we all cherish and which is on display everyday in this city. From the history of downtown to the uniqueness of the hidden distinct hideaways all over the peninsula (and area for that matter). A hospitality that is as open and diverse as any major city (I'd say more) and welcoming to a wide variety of incomes, races, colors, genders and sexual orientations. Charleston is one on the leaders in carving out unique tourist experiences across the board.

In a recent article by well known author and Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism award winner Andrew Collins (Fodor's Gay Guide to the USA and six regional gay guides on destinations ranging from San Francisco to Amsterdam) says: "Charleston has developed an increasingly loyal following among gay travelers in recent years. It's a formal city in a socially conservative state, but the gay Charleston scene has become relatively open and quite fun. Many hotels now enthusiastically court the GLBT market". He goes on to equate us with Savannah, one of the top LBGT destinations in the South.

As for the African American experience, Charleston is already one of the fastest growing African American vacation destinations from where you can learn about the evils of slave history in the south, the Civil Rights Movement specific to Charleston, the unique culture and art derived from African American traditions still alive today in the city and the excellent Gullah Tours which introduces participants to one of the oldest black cultures in the United States. Include the large number of black-owned African / Caribbean restaurants in the area and, with the soon completion of the International African American Museum, those tourist numbers will continue to rise significantly.

No, Charleston's tourist industry doesn't care about income, race, color, gender or sexual orientations, it only cares that that everyone enjoy their experience and leaves lots of legal tender when they go home. Perhaps you should get off your porch sometime and actual find out what's happening in the city you chose to move to.

But your right Ms. Gilchrist, there is a Charleston Lie, and we know exactly who's trying to "peddle" it.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on June 7, 2017 at 10:40 AM

Re: “The Charleston Lie

...I heard him explain that my peninsula neighborhood is getting "besieged upon by people on welfare."

WTF kind of tour is that dude giving? "Come one, come all to my tour of the besieged hellscapes of Charleston! You heard about it in the President's inaugural address, now experience it first hand in an entirely unprotected and slow pedicab!"

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Posted by factoryconnection on June 7, 2017 at 10:30 AM
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