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Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

This article is beautiful. Thank you, Leigh, for being such an amazing human being. Thank you, Dustin, for writing an article about a concept that so many people refuse to acknowledge. I'm sure somewhere out there, you've made a genderqueer kid realize that there is a word to describe how they feel.

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Posted by A Friend on September 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

I read this twice. I am still confused. Before you call me simple, map this on a whiteboard. And before you call me racist...

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Posted by born too late on September 14, 2017 at 11:12 AM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

Who we are is who we are, but, who we are is what we DO.

Both race and sex are sacred, because it is how God formed us in the womb even with mortal burdens to bear, but His "yoke is light".

Both race and sex are sacred things as given to us, so we do not sacralize the one and desacralize the other.

It is true that "none is righteous, no, not one", but "in Christ there is no condemnation".

Who are we? When we follow His commands, we are His children, though, yes, the world will hate us for it, we are taught.

As for us, we do not hate sinners. We are all sinners.

It is only accepting the redemption that is in question.

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Posted by DocRock1007 on September 14, 2017 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

The article tried to educate - the ignorant can be educated but the stupid (some above) lack the capacity to learn. We have to be proud of WHO we are because straight white christians (SWCs) disparage us at every turn (see snark above of just about every ignorant comment). I say christians because the bible is the root of our struggles and christians make up some 70% of the population. I'm proud to be courageous enough to be WHO I am in spite of the hate, vitriol and debasing rhetoric of the one's who don't need to be proud. Pride is accepting and feeling good about yourself because no one else does. You SWCs don't face hate and judgment every minute of the day by 70% of the country with a resulting fear for your safety because of WHO you are. So go enjoy your privileges of having safety in numbers and STFU!

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Posted by tupper29406 on September 14, 2017 at 7:22 AM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

"That person" is gender neutral. He left, she left, that person left, etc.

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Posted by navyvet on September 13, 2017 at 10:54 PM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

It feels strange to use 'they' for one person, they is a plural pronoun. But unfortunately English is one of the languages that don't have a neuter pronoun for people. English distinguishes between 'he' and 'she'. So traditionally people have used 'he' or 'she' for everybody, depending on whether the person is described as male or female. There are often gym classes and sometimes even other classes, where kids are segregated by sex, boys go to one class and girls to another. I had even health education class in high school, which was for boys only. So it is not easy. And even the many languages that do not distinguish between 'he' and 'she', like Finnish, Hungarian, Indonesian, Tagalog, Bengali, Yoruba, spoken Chinese (though written Mandarin Chinese got a new character which means 'she' in the 19th century), they often have segregated classes. In many countries you can't choose what sex you want to marry. There are churches that have segregated seating, with men on one side and women on the other side, like for example in the Iglesia ni Cristo denomination, which originated in the Philippines, where the local languages usually don't distinguish between 'he' and 'she'. But you have to pick being male or female before you can be seated. The Iglesia ni Cristo has a house of worship here in the Charleston area, in North Charleston. Iglesia ni Cristo means Church of Christ, so they use both names in English, but only Iglesia ni Cristo in Tagalog. And of course mosques are usually segregated, with women usually worshiping in a different room. And Orthodox Jewish congregations are also segregated by sex, since Jewish Orthodox faith bans men from looking at women who are not relatives. So some Orthodox newspapers never publish photos of women, not even women politicians like Hillary Clinton or Angela Merkel, or the former Prime Minister Golda Meir. So what can these newspapers to do with this person, who identifies as neither male nor female? Can they publish his/her photo or not? Some religions can be so restrictive. If a good God exists, then He or She does not like such religions.

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Posted by Tom Martin on September 13, 2017 at 7:56 PM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

Is is outrageous that The Charleston City Paper would advocate homosexual dress behavior to 14 year old boys in its community by publishing such an offensive affront on its cover for children to be misled. Shame on you!

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Posted by DocRock1007 on September 13, 2017 at 4:30 PM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

The "pride" part is what I don't understand. I realize that you can be proud of the strides and progress you have made, but being proud to be gay or whatever is what I don't understand. That's like me saying I'm proud to be white, straight and male, three things of which I had no control over. I am proud of things I accomplished but that's different.

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Posted by Showmoor hi on September 13, 2017 at 12:50 PM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

There are records of non-binary people going back over 2000 years.In many cultures there were more than 2 genders. Often 5 or more. The spread of Western "Civilization" not only destroyed most of these people but also their religious and societal beliefs and replaced them with so called Christian values. This was often done by force and murder.
For centuries those of us who are gender variant thought we were alone and the only ones who felt like we did. We hid out of fear of how we would be treated by faith, family, and friends. A fear that was, and all to often is, justified.
Trying to ignore us or force us back in the closet is not going to work. We are here and we are proud of who we are. You don't have to ask us over for dinner but you also do not have to stare, point or misgender us. When in doubt of a persons pronouns ask in a respectful way. We appreciate that. Do unto us as you would have us do unto you. It's as simple as that.

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Posted by Lee Anne on September 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Looking beyond the binary and embracing gender nonconformity

White anger is white power. Glad that can't sound racist since queer anger is queer power. Accordingly to this article and others I've read (Newsweek did almost the same article months ago)queer people can change sexuality and sexual preference, which blows away the theory that being queer is not something they chose. So perhaps it is a lifestyle choice. Or perhaps some of them simply don't know what they are after hearing so many different views from the media and others.

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Posted by Showmoor hi on September 13, 2017 at 10:32 AM

Re: “A local entrepreneur starts a Charleston-themed T-shirt company

Old thread, but wanted to drop a note. This gentleman took an idea and brought it to fruition - more than can be said about most! He also is getting some really good press out of it (obviously) so plenty can be said about the hustle. Pricing is spot on for any premium tee, especially those produced in limited quantities. Designs are basic and minimal, but personally it's what I prefer. Hope this business continues to do big things.

Dean
palmettoblended.com

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Posted by Rodney Sccheuer on September 10, 2017 at 9:27 PM

Re: “Historians detail Charleston's role in the Antebellum market for enslaved wet nurses

In Charleston and the Lowcountry, a nursemaid was known as a "Dah" (pronounced "Daa") which isa Gullah word.

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Posted by Robert Stockton on September 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM

Re: “Historians detail Charleston's role in the Antebellum market for enslaved wet nurses

I think this went on well after the Civil War...I seem to remember my South Carolina mother saying that she and her siblings had black wet nurses when infants.

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Posted by Betsy Getsinger-Donlon on September 6, 2017 at 11:59 AM

Re: “New interactive map shows effects of sea level rise on Charleston

history shows sea level falls and rises again over and over in cycles, I really don't think man can do much about these facts, Anyone that really is worried about sea level rise only need move INLAND about fifty miles to be safe for a very long time. tom.

Posted by Richard Pentland on September 4, 2017 at 10:07 AM

Re: “Scientists have unearthed ancient artifacts that are upending the history of mankind

This website totally sucks! The ad for some kind of shit-garbage "Humira" just keeps playing its fucked-up audio no matter what you do, and whoever wrote the skipping jumpin Java script should go back to frying burgers at McDonalds.

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Posted by Jacob Freeze on August 26, 2017 at 7:19 AM

Re: “Our 20 most beloved trolls

Glad I could be a pain in the ass, I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on August 14, 2017 at 10:00 PM

Re: “The 20 politicians who hate us

"Look, it's difficult to dislike Joe"
Not if you live on James Island.

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Posted by navyvet on August 10, 2017 at 9:28 PM

Re: “Our 20 most beloved trolls

And no mention of Muskie, whose Douchegate controversy was launched from these very pages to the stage at Pecha Kucha? https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/Eat/ar…

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Posted by johnpauljah on August 10, 2017 at 6:08 PM

Re: “The 20 politicians who hate us

Damn Siri that was supposed to be berserk not dessert LOL

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Posted by Charlie Morrison on August 10, 2017 at 3:34 PM
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