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Comment Archives: Stories: News+Opinion: Neighborhoods of Charleston

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

Thank you for this very informative article. I am relocating from Boston to Charleston this summer and am trying to find the right neighborhood for myself and my teenage daughter. Cannonborough-Elliotborough just may be that place.

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Posted by Amy Rivera on March 27, 2018 at 11:45 AM

Re: “It's hip, it's getting safer, and the rent is going up in Charleston's Eastside

Micah Blaise, I really hope you are not as misinformed as you sound in your comment above. At no point does the article state that "the systematic removal of low-income folks of color [is making] the community safer."

Here are the facts: The community IS getting safer (look at local crime statistics) and the demographic profile of the community IS changing (look at census information), but correlation does NOT imply causation (i.e. just because African Americans are moving out of the Eastside does NOT mean that this is why crime rates are decreasing). The only person who made that erroneous conclusion on this page was you.

So please, for everyone's benefit, stop looking for racism where there is none and stop trying to make something out of nothing. If you would have actually read and thought about the article before jumping the gun and posting that ridiculous and irrelevant comment, you would have realized that the article is not about race at all.

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Posted by Rice Bird on June 3, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Re: “It's hip, it's getting safer, and the rent is going up in Charleston's Eastside

Chumak: Here's an educational video on why reverse racism doesn't exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

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Posted by babygirl89999999 on February 6, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Re: “It's hip, it's getting safer, and the rent is going up in Charleston's Eastside

Micah, I believe you are wrong in your assertions.

Much of the falling off in crime statistics is due to reclassification of crime however violent crimes (e.g. Homicide, rape, and assault) has fallen off dramatically. Please see the FBI crime statistics for the year 2010 vs the year 2000. Now, please go back and compare that against the statistics from 1965 which should be the earliest year reported. You will see a boom and bust cycle corresponding with Charleston's economy. Every decade since the mandatory reporting shows a different story. The neighborhood featured in this article has seen multiple waves of inhabitants and I don't see why some mingling isn't acceptable.

I'd like to counter your NY Times article with one from NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-may-be-losing-its-stigma

As common sense would dictate rising property values are a boon for all owners regardless of background or race. I would also like to point out that it is very possible to buy a home in the area. You see, that's me holding a chicken up there. I hate to bring up my military affiliation (I am also required to mention this reflects only my opinions and in no way reflects the views of the U. S. Government, the Military, or the Coast Guard) but I was able to afford a home leveraging even my meager pay. Please Google the military pay chart for an E-4 (Petty Officer, Third Class). That places me within spitting distance of the poverty line as a single person. If I had any dependents I would be well below it.

Why do you feel okay generalizing about "lazy white college boys"? That is just as toxic and dehumanizing as the racism you condemn. Would you be okay if I spoke about "lazy white female teachers"? No, you seem like you would correctly call me out on that idiocy. So, why do you think you can call out an article for racism and class-ism and then commit the same offense in the same breath?

So, as a "chicken child" who raises his own food, talks to his neighbors, and regularly attends the neighborhood meetings I am here to tell you that you are misinformed and grossly misinterpret the trends in this neighborhood.

Sincerely
Cory Humak

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Posted by chumak on February 5, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Re: “It's hip, it's getting safer, and the rent is going up in Charleston's Eastside

this is the most racist, classist article i've ever seen published by the city paper. shame on all of you.

the title begs the question: for whom is the eastside getting "safer"?! for young, wealthy folks who have the means to live pretty much wherever they like on the peninsula, that's who. SAFER?! the systematic removal of low-income folks of color does not make a community safer. where is the data that the dip in crime is the result of the influx of lazy white college boys with goatees? i want to see it. and i want to know who determines what is safe, here. petty crime might be down but this article makes it clear that racist violence and vitriol is on the rise across charleston. it's so prevalent that it gets published, all out in the open, with hardly a mention of the unfairness of the arrangement or the possible consequences for the actual families who have deep roots on the eastside.

our city already has a major problem with homelessness. folks have few options for shelter when they're out of a home. moving to north charleston should never be the solution, and for many it is an inconvenient option, to say the least. when gentrification takes hold in a city it is bad news for everyone. eventually, it makes living impossible for all except the very few wealthiest in an area. chicken children, you're just the first wave - your kind will be out of there before you know it if things keep going as they are. landlords and realtors need to be held accountable, and smug college students need to think twice about stoking a fire that's going to take us all out. families in brooklyn are in crisis over the same pattern. read this for context: http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/invis…

are there community forums on resisting this terrifying pattern? as the city gets more expensive, folks need to get creative together and take care of each other.

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Posted by Micah Blaise on January 24, 2014 at 6:34 AM

Re: “It's hip, it's getting safer, and the rent is going up in Charleston's Eastside

Johnson and Wales was the best thing to happen to that neighborhood. King Joe really let that get away. Rip JWU!!

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Posted by FairGayme on January 22, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

I've lived on Line street for two years. This article mentions nearly every street that surrounds me. The "gem" that is the Elliotborough park is outside my window.

When I walk across the street to the park I often have excuse myself past the vagrants that are seated on my step outside my own door. When I get to the park with my dog I wave to the friendly neighborhood dope boys that are seated on the wall outside.

I'd love to see Line cleaned up as well as Bogard and Spring but the city has to address these activities first.

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Posted by Andy Hansen on December 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

Great article. I wonder which neighborhood is going to be next? I am thinking about moving from DC to Charleston to be closer to my sister.

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Posted by ehrh2984 on December 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

Daniel Atwill is a home owner / resident on the opposite side of the street, and hence, a different 'block'. We do share St Philip as a common boundary. I am on the block to the west, he on the east.
So, correct & accurate. I did not say on the 'street' as is being implied. I am the last on my block. Daniel's block has only 4 (I think).
Daniel is one of the very few with a family who have chosen to stay and make a stand for the livability & residential character of the East end of Elliotborough.
2 full city blocks and not even 1/2 dozen owner occupied homes....!

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Posted by FOBofSC on December 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

Great article but one major inaccuracy. It states that Maloney is the only owner occupied house on his block. There are at least 4-5 other owner occupied homes and buildings on this block including me.

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Posted by Daniel Atwill on December 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

While I like the safer feeling of the area - as late as 2006 there was a drugs-related murder on Morris - it's kind of sad to see so much of the character being lost.

Until last spring, there was a nice big park with hundred-year old oaks, a playground, and lots of space right in the middle of Elliotborough - now it's a bulldozed lot being turned into more housing.

As the rest of the civilized world turns to safer bike routes and adding more green space, Charleston is adding new boutique hotels, office space, and housing at a record rate. Way to go, Charleston - you're entering the 90's with all four feet on the ground...

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Posted by Elise Ladew on December 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Cannonborough-Elliottborough has transformed whether you like it or not

Parks not Parking Garages!

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Posted by FOBofSC on December 4, 2013 at 10:00 AM
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