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Re: “Once again, a case of racial profiling leads to tragedy

Well, there are significant differences between Martin and Curnell. One major one being that Medlin didn't shoot Curnell.

Correlation does not equal causation, Ms. Scott - while Curnell did shoot himself with the gun he was in criminal possession of immediately following Medlin's should-be-illegal detainment, Curnell has to bear the responsibility for the trigger he pulled, not Medlin.

The racial profiling that both Curnell and Trayvon Martin suffered is deplorable, shameful, and ought to carry consequences. Curnell's constitutional protection against search and seizure was pretty clearly infringed upon by an agent of the government and it's sad for the state of our country that this does not provoke universal outrage.

But racial profiling didn't kill these two, guns did.

Martin died because Zimmerman, who shouldn't have had a gun, had one and shot him. Curnell died because he had a gun when he shouldn't have and shot himself.

Both of these fights need fighting, but if you try to combine them you're doing more harm than good.

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Posted by HappyPessimist on July 23, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Re: “Why did Denzel Curnell have four extra rounds?

Michael,

Yes, he shouldn't have had the gun. Yes, it's his fault that he shot himself.

There are two separate issues at play here, somewhat mixed together. The fact that he had a gun makes no difference to the complaint people have been raising here in regards to the behavior of police. This is not a liberal or a conservative issue, this is a very simple constitutional rights issue.

Police are not supposed to be able to detain and search people based solely on the kind of vague suspicion that Medlin stated that he used. The police are not supposed to instigate violent conflicts with observably law-abiding citizens. The police are supposed to respect the rule of law, not be above it. None of that is politics.

The problem that Curnell turned out in the end to have a gun is a separate issue, and a legitimate problem. But nobody wants to talk about how to keep guns out of kids hands because of an ahistorical interpretation of the second amendment. That problem has, unfortunately, become a liberal v conservative issue.

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Posted by HappyPessimist on July 23, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Re: “The Agenda: Graham "not auditioning for a reality show"; Big price, little tax bill; Pedestrians in danger

Congress has resembled a bad reality show more than honest government for a number of years now, so I'm not so sure that I agree with Graham.

With that in mind, we already have enough "I'm surprised you're allowed to leave the house without supervision, much less run the government of the United States" lunatic cast members so until some of them get voted off T-Rav doesn't make a lot of sense from a ratings standpoint. "Creepily Over-Romantic Guy" is locked up with Sanford for now, too, which is T-Rav's other strong suit. I just don't see where T-Rav's niche is as a cast member.

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Posted by HappyPessimist on July 23, 2014 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Why did Denzel Curnell have four extra rounds?

The argument from this side is that the end does not justify the means when we are talking about basic constitutional rights. I understand that he ended up in possession of contraband, but that end result is completely irrelevant (and very easily could have been ruled inadmissible in court, had he survived) with the means in which that information was gained.

Keep in mind that with the facts we have it is also equally clear that the officer was never in any danger, despite Curnell's possession of the weapon, since Curnell only fired one shot - at himself. So as much as the officer's hunch that he had a weapon was correct, he was also very wrong in terms of Curnell's intent insofar as the danger he was in. Both of those assumptions factored into his procedural decision-making. One right, one wrong. Neither of them justified by anything other than a hunch based on stereotype.

As far as the media coverage of the thing - this thing smelled fishy from the start, and even though it looks now to be more of a tragic intersection of a lot of poor decision-making (from all parties involved) it only takes a half step in one direction or the other to sensationalism. It's a touchy situation and with the history this country has between young black males and the police it doesn't surprise me that we've got assumptions bleeding through all over the place, from Medlin and Riley to the P&C and the CP. It's hard to have an honest conversation as a society about this kind of stuff when there's so much nastiness just underneath the surface. This country's in a bad marriage when it comes to race - there's a big exposed nerve running across the backbone of that relationship and every time any issue brushes up against it it causes an outsized amount of unresolved pain, in a social and cultural sense.

So since it looks like it wasn't intentional foul play after all, it's probably a better idea to focus on the easier stuff to talk about - constitutional guarantees against search and seizure, for example. We can talk about the second amendment as it pertains to gun regulation and gun culture too, if you want, but that is about as much a non-starter as the relationship between poor minorities and the police, haha. It's a sad world sometimes.

Posted by HappyPessimist on July 23, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Re: “Jerusalem Market & Deli brings the flavors of Palestine to North Charleston

The Muslims invented the concept of zero, which is as many points as I give your post.

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Posted by HappyPessimist on July 22, 2014 at 7:49 PM

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