I chuckle as I read posts that compare the president of the U.S. with the president of a regional college as if there was any meaningful points of comparison. Comments kinda wandered away from the original article, I think.
@ursus. OK. So the CofC only represents the interests of the monied and political classes, in your point of view. I'm sure prospective parents and students will flock to a college with such priorities. Over time we'll find out if CofC grows despite the public image of its president.
And then you return to caustic comments and personal remarks. Generally speaking, people that use these strategies illustrate how weak their arguments are. With no real argument to support their views, they simply attack those questioning them.
Oh, and its Dees rather than Deas.
@ursus. Well, I and others in this series of comments have described some of the activities by the SCV that can be interpreted as racist and have provided citations for many of those descriptions.
Other than disputing the significance of marching through Montgomery, providing unsubstantiated claims about one source used to describe the SCV, and engage in arguments about 150 year-old events, you have chosen to avoid justifying the current behavior of the SCV or attempt to defend the racist image Glenn McConnell projects.
I can see you have shouldered the burden of reinterpreting the causes of the Civil War here but that has nothing to do with Glenn McConnell, his behavior, or the PR problems CofC incurred by hiring him as their president.
Do you have anything substantial to say about any of this? My definition of substantial would be something other than caustic remarks, name-calling, and unsubstantiated claims.
@ursus. So you concede that events provide symbolic importance to a place. True for both the Montgomery Convention AND a host of civil rights events that took place in Montgomery. The SCV is able to commemorate both the beginning of a lost cause AND provoke those who place importance in the city's role in the Civil Rights Movement. A bonus for SCV participants.
An example of this double purpose would be the SCV march up Dexter Ave, where several Confederate congressmen lived AND the street where Dr. Martin Luther King first preached his message of hope and brotherhood. Certainly this point is not lost on Confederate enthusiasts who specifically point out the Dexter Ave's importance in civil rights history. WhiteRace.com notes this specifically in its description of the 2011 march: "Hundreds of men in Civil War uniforms marched past the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s church Saturday to commemorate the inauguration of the Confederate president 150 years ago in a city that no longer rolls out the red carpet for them." (http://bit.ly/1dBacZS) He avoids racially-tinged language but even a casual reader gets the point.
I invite you to look at the FBI.gov page I provided a link to. The FBI on their own website states that Southern Poverty Law Center is a partner in the bureau's mission. I don't know how you can refute that. Breitbart certainly cannot.
Glenn McConnell will soon be the face of CofC. McConnell's image and history will be tied directly into the image and reputation of the college. As McConnell comes under increasing media scrutiny more links with neo-Confederacy and white supremacists are likely to be found and those unsavory associations will be transferred to the college's image. McConnell's reputation of consorting with these groups and with those associated with racist acts will leak over to the college and its image and reputation will suffer. It's inevitable.
@ursus. As you point out, the SCV does not spend 100% of its time provoking others. No one is uniformly bad or uniformly good. Pointing out some of the good deeds the SCV perform does not disprove that the SCV has not acted badly elsewhere.
Montgomery indeed existed prior to the SCV marching there, celebrating the Confederacy. But to suggest that Montgomery's image was not transformed by the Civil Rights Movement is no different than arguing the World Trade Center is as well known for business conducted there than it now is for the tragedy of 9/11.
Identification of significant events with a particular place changes the place into, in part, a symbol of those events. To suggest Montgomery's link with the Civil Rights Movement played no part in the decision to stage demonstrations there is obtuse.
Regarding the FBI dropping the SPLC (my source for the stories critical of SCV), as a demonstration of SPLC's unreliability - this claim is false. The FBI website (http://1.usa.gov/1h0Y5A0) specifically lists the SPLC as a partner in its investigation of crimes. To wit:
"The FBI has forged partnerships nationally and locally with many civil rights organizations to establish rapport, share information, address concerns, and cooperate in solving problems. These groups include such organizations as the NAACP, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium, the National Organization for Women, the Human Rights Campaign, and the National Disability Rights Network."
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