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Re: “Assessing Charleston's culinary tours to find the best entertainment for your summer guests

The ice cream at Lowcountry Olive Oil is provided to taste balsamic vinegars, the brownies were made with our blood orange olive oil. What we provide for sampling changes weekly. We are on the tour because of 1. the historical significance of our building 2. the history of olive oil in South Carolina 3. The fact that we are the only olive oil company in South Carolina that infuses olive oils and vinegars and doesn't purchase them en masse from one distributor. We also work closely with regional olive farms.

Posted by Laurie Benjamin on July 29, 2015 at 5:50 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

Okay, the horse startled, slipped and fell, and has now got doctors permission to go back to work. Since everyone's into anthropomorphizing these days, let's look at it this way.

4,585 workers were killed on the job in 2013 [BLS 2013 workplace fatality data*] (3.3 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers) – on average, 88 a week or more than 12 deaths every day. 2.9 MILLION workplace injuries happened in 2013. Should we ban every industry that has had an injury or death in it? Why is one horse slipping more important than the 2.9 million people who are injured on the job in a year?

So if we're going to say that horses are just like people. Blondie had a work related accident, has received treatment, and is ready to go back to work. Along with all the other workers who have gone through the same thing.

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Posted by Lisa Kawaquist on July 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM

Re: “Dîner en Blanc is coming to Charleston

Is this for real? People do this shit?

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Posted by CMF on July 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

"Moral confusion" is the result of not understanding the human-horse bond. These horses were bred to do this job, they are well treated, in no crisis, unlike the 160,000 jobless, unwanted horses who go to slaughter every year in this country. Moral confusion is wanting healthy animals sent into a murky future, while thousands who need people's help and attention are allowed to die. How is that moral?

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Posted by Anna Felkins on July 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

It is totally amazing to me that people suddenly feel horses should not pull carriages...when horses pulling carriages in cities have done so ever since there WERE cities. The animal "rights" movement is ignoring science and biology in order to grant horses rights they don't need and remove the main one that matters most...the right to exist in our world.

Culinary Kid: "We did just fine without horses"? Seriously? Crack a history book open, Kid...we depended on horses for our very existence until the invention of the automobile, and in many, many places in the world, we still do! They aren't "asking you for help"...although they may be looking to see if you have a carrot. The rest of your post is too nasty and ridiculous to be taken seriously.

As someone who volunteers and donates to equine rescue, I can tell you...there are no "retirement farms" with open spaces for homeless horses. Over 150,000 of them went to slaughter in Mexico or Canada last year alone. Without jobs, that's what will happen to these horses also, especially because you'll have taken the livelihood from their owners, who will no longer be able to feed and care for them. Without caring owners, and remember, these people chose a career working with horses because they love and care for them, they'll end up in a kill pen.

"Free" in the horse world means no shelter, no feed, no water provided in buckets, no fans in the summer heat, no blankets in the winter cold, no vet care, no dental care, no hoof care, no CARE, period.

I fail to see why people are suddenly so concerned about the heat for horses...if you bothered to read the story, Blondie's fall had nothing to do with heat, and horses DO live outdoors, you know. They are NOT house pets.

If a careless driver runs over a dog, or scares a child on a bicycle causing him or her to fall...you chastise the careless driver. If he manages to spook a carriage horse so that he falls down...yeah, do remember, people, all that happened was that the horse fell down, he wasn't injured, he didn't die...you don't chastise the driver, instead you want to ban the horse. As far as the concern about the "fumes"...smh...are you going to ban bicycles, motorcycles, pedicabs and walking? All those people are exposed to "fumes" also, aren't they? Oh, and before someone pipes up with "the horse doesn't have a CHOICE", let me tell you, any horseman or horsewoman knows you cannot "force" a horse to do anything he or she doesn't want to do. And without regular exercise, a draft horse will die anyway. Obesity creates serious issues with horses, causing them joint problems and hoof problems that shortens their lives. If you care about horses, truly care...you'd be grateful that carriage tours exist to keep them working, healthy, cared for and out of the kill pens.

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Posted by Victorena Minchew on July 29, 2015 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

just where are all these retirement, natural farms, rescues and sanctuaries that will take drafts or drat crosses? i read nearly everyday that many horse rescues are closing do to lack of funds or not able to take any more because they are full? those of you who feel this si the solution, go volunteer at a rescue or sanctuary and then tell me how easy they are to maintain on little money. culinary kid, your co-worker comment is laughable. you obviously failed biology,health and science in general if you think that a person pulling a carriage would be the same as a horse. incase you didn't notice, different muscle mass, 4 legs as opposed to 2, not to mention if places were able to be traded that would mean that the horse would have to do the work the human does, again, a totally different set of skills, horses don't have thumbs, kinda hard to use a muck fork. and susan, your feature was fiction at best, my opinion.

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Posted by Maxine Luker on July 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

Where hoof meets pavement? Are these horses unshod? When a farrier prepares to put a shoe on a hoof, it is normally too hot to handle, well over the temperature of summer pavement. Hammered into the hoof "wall", the shoes protect the feet from rough surfaces as well as from placing the more tender part of the hoof on hot or cold.

Before you decide these animals are being placed in danger by working, talk to equine vets and people who KNOW horses -- not just the Animal Rights types who would have all animals retired to the slaughter house.

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Posted by Lisa Peterson on July 29, 2015 at 2:09 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

To Susan, the "lifelong horsewoman": I hope you don't ever ride your horse since that is completely unnatural.

Culinary Kid: "every time I make eye contact with one of these horses, it looks like its begging me for help" So what have you done to help? Have you donated thousands of dollars for their upkeep? There are so many horses that do not have a job to pay for their food, shelter, medical and dental care.

You said:" I know these are work horses but this is not what they were meant for." Are they meant to work pulling a plow through soil all day in the heat? Seems like pulling a carriage on flat pavement is much easier than farm work. BTW- learn a few acceptable vocabulary words to use in a public forum.

BBSC: "animals who should be in retirement and on a natural farm." Again, what have you done to help horses in need? These horses have a job with "benefits". They don't need your help. Did you know that 150,000 American horses, per year, go to slaughter? They need your help. Help those horses to live, not die in a foreign country.

"If it's dangerous for humans i.e. heat advisorys it's dangerous for these horses" You don't understand equine vs human anatomy. Take a hands on course to learn about horses and what they need, not what you need. There is a huge difference.

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Posted by Pasovasz on July 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM

Re: “City avoids free-speech concerns in effort to fix panhandling problem

"While no one was reportedly injured or killed by drivers and panhandlers exchanging money..."

"the intersections of Charleston will soon be safe..."

They were never unsafe, but will soon be safe again. Makes perfect sense.

"Every city has a right to determine what types of activities it wants to restrict or limit."

So then shut the fuck up about the BAR and Sgt. Jasper.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on July 29, 2015 at 1:32 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

The horses should remain on the job. A horse without a job is frequently a homeless horse and at risk of going to auction or starving in someone's back yard. Horses are expensive. Working helps to earn their keep. Very few people keep horses as lawn ornaments. Also, there are not enough homes, rescues or sanctuaries to accomodate all the horses that the activists want to put into retirement. Those people talk a lot about how other people should spend their money, but they don't get involved in the actual care of horses. We should listen to the equine professionals who approve of regulated carriage horses, and not listen to anthropomorphic, know nothings.

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Posted by Barbara Levy Steever on July 29, 2015 at 1:25 PM

Re: “City avoids free-speech concerns in effort to fix panhandling problem

You can almost smell the splooge on Dwayne's hands as he typed this article. Glad you won't have to feel icky on your commute anymore!

Now the panhandlers will just move to more pedestrian-friendly areas, which will ironically make them even more visible to the people who do not want to see them. Next I guess we will outlaw handing things to each other.

Posted by Ron Liberte on July 29, 2015 at 1:25 PM

Re: “Blondie the horse's accident raises moral questions about the carriage tour industry

Such a big issue... We need to constantly bring attention to this situation until it ends. Hang up the carriage tours for good and get creative on how to sightsee without injuring, spooking, or overworking these animals who should be in retirement and on a natural farm. The 98° Rule is BS!!! If it's dangerous for humans i.e. heat advisorys it's dangerous for these horses who have no shade, car exhaust, and concrete / pavement heating these large animals tenfold.
Get rid of the tours once and for all!

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Posted by bbsc on July 29, 2015 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Our Man in Charleston paints a portrait of a sneaky Civil War diplomat and the slave society he navigated

"But, do you really think the 4th Amendment has not been slowly degraded over time? You're cool with NSA activities and all that? I never knew you were such an authoritarian, Big Brother type"

I thought the Second amendment was there to prevent such government encroachments. You guys are doing a bang up job.

Posted by Ron Liberte on July 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM

Re: “City avoids free-speech concerns in effort to fix panhandling problem

I thought Citizens United said that money was speech? Still a First Amendment violation. Nice try though.

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Posted by Splendid Bauble on July 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Our Man in Charleston paints a portrait of a sneaky Civil War diplomat and the slave society he navigated

Look, I know you know best and the 2nd Amendment is a civil liberty you don't support. Because, we can totally pick and choose the line items from the Constitution that we want (what other civil liberties should be omitted, btw?).

But, do you really think the 4th Amendment has not been slowly degraded over time? You're cool with NSA activities and all that? I never knew you were such an authoritarian, Big Brother type.

"And all I've been hearing for the past several years from you and other persecuted and oppressed white men is how civil liberties are being taken away."

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Posted by Cid95 on July 29, 2015 at 11:22 AM

Re: “Dîner en Blanc is coming to Charleston

Of FFS, I knew it was just a matter of time until this trendstar crap came to Charleston. Total wankerfest to be avoided at all costs. I've seen it in two other cities (one in EU, one in Asia) and it's a pretentious monstrosity.

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Posted by Cid95 on July 29, 2015 at 11:17 AM

Re: “City's panhandling ordinance ignores the real problem

The Utah plan is pretty sensible and is very cost effective. They probably should drug test them, though, not for eligibility but to help them with any addiction issues which cause a great deal of homelessness.

Posted by nofaith on July 29, 2015 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Assessing Charleston's culinary tours to find the best entertainment for your summer guests

Charleston remains a culinary delight.

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Posted by SonnyJerkinson on July 29, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Vikki Matsis and the Ohm Radio crew launch a commercial-free station

It will be a relief to turn off the raspy voiced Brooke on 2 girls and one man.

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Posted by SonnyJerkinson on July 29, 2015 at 10:08 AM

Re: “City avoids free-speech concerns in effort to fix panhandling problem

Ban the bums.

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Posted by SonnyJerkinson on July 29, 2015 at 10:07 AM
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