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Re: “Rise in S.C. tourism among African-Americans following Confederate flag removal

In May 2000, the SC legislature voted 66 to 43, to remove the Confederate flag from the statehouse dome and put a similar one at the Confederate memorial.

The NAACP was unhappy with the new location and decided to continue their tourism boycott. The flag was removed from the Confederate memorial in February 2006, and the NAACP lifted their boycott.

During the third quarter of 2006, state officials noticed an alarming drop in tourism revenues. After many surveys, studies and models, it was determined that a large segment of South Carolina's normal tourism market had ceased to visit the state. This segment comprised tourists from other Southern states.

"There was no organized boycott...." explains Tim Wheeler, VP of the SC Tourism Consortium. "It was mostly just word of mouth that spread like wildfire across the South."

"We just don't want to spend our money in a state that dishonors our ancestors and history," says JoAnn Reeves, President of Women for Southern Heritage. "Removing a Confederate flag from a Confederate memorial -- that was the last straw for us."

By the time the legislature convened in January 2009, annual tourism revenues were down ten percen from their 2004 levels, and both the government and private concerns that depend on tourism dollars were finding it difficult to make ends meet....

Edited from:
Rebel flag quietly goes back up
by Trace Gibbs
The State
Tuesday, March 16, 2016

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Posted by Connie Chastain on October 4, 2016 at 7:09 PM

Re: “What's the right choice in the great food debate?

Outstanding article, timely written and insightful.Highly recommended reading for all consumers who purchase at both farmers markets and grocery stores.

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Posted by Larry Kent on October 4, 2016 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Rise in S.C. tourism among African-Americans following Confederate flag removal

I hv lived in Charleston for 9 years and I never saw a Confederate Flag nor a bumper sticker. In fact I still see Obama bumper stickers. Now what other city would Blacks visit? Greenville? I am sure there were no Confederate Flags flying around there. And tourists certainly do not visit Columbia. What for? To see the State House? Don't think so. You come to South Carolina to visit Charleston. So taking down the Confederate Flag, although a sincere gesture, should not have stopped blacks from coming here.

I'm from NYC and grew up with blacks. They went to my Junior High school and High school and college. Worked together. Never saw they were treated any differently then I was by my teachers, or employers. And since I was down here? At the job I worked at, same thing. I never saw any prejudice.

So to me, Flag or no flag. My dad was a Holocaust survivor. I still see the swastika flag, but I deal with it. And just for some reference, I had researched, and still to this day, more HATE crimes are committed on Jews in this country, than on blacks and Muslims. And Jews make up the least amount of the American population. Perhaps America needs to work on the growing problem of Anti-semitism that is brewing in our country.

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Posted by lynnar on October 4, 2016 at 2:32 PM

Re: “Rise in S.C. tourism among African-Americans following Confederate flag removal

These days, we prefer our racism to be passive-aggressive, not overt. So sure, the removal of such a visceral symbol is going to help things, but the problem is not going away.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on October 4, 2016 at 1:53 PM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

Two tribes of trolls who vehemently hate each other duking it out on my computer screen - sounds like a cheap video game. And the author's head shot likes like a promo for an 80's soft-core porno.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on October 4, 2016 at 1:47 PM

Re: “Rise in S.C. tourism among African-Americans following Confederate flag removal

"Researchers recently found that almost half of all out-of-state African-American travelers surveyed said that the flag’s removal increased their desire to visit the Palmetto State." But this does not say that it influenced their decision to visit, merely increased the desire. Perhaps the better question would have been "Would you have made this visit if the flag had not been removed?" But, then again, they probably wouldn't have had nearly as "dramatic" results. A poll can tell you whatever you want if you can frame the questions around the answers you're looking for and then present in the most favorable light ie. almost half sounds a whole lot more prominent than,say, 40%. And a further thought - was the same question asked to White visitors and how would their answers have skewed?

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Posted by Ima Oldman on October 4, 2016 at 1:20 PM

Re: “Journalist and author Ta-Nehisi Coates will speak at CofC on race in America

I saw Mr. Coates speak in North Carolina several months ago. His speech last 18 minutes, which was about the same length of time it took for the university president to introduce him. Coates seems to be a nice enough fellow, but he adds little or nothing to the national discourse on race.

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Posted by Gunnar on October 3, 2016 at 8:22 PM

Re: “Book your seat now at the new McCrady's


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Posted by Cia Culinarykid on October 3, 2016 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Watch Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton square off in the first 2016 presidential debate

Your comment is right there. Nobody's censuring, censoring, or banning you from commenting. You do you, Cosmo.

Posted by Sam Spence on October 3, 2016 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Watch Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton square off in the first 2016 presidential debate

I posted a comment with my own words and no link here this morning but it is gone. Have I been censured or banned from further comment? Are you a trump supporter and that is why my first amendment rights are being shut down? That would make sense because trump is a dictator in disguise? Inquiring minds want to know.


Cosmo Tupper

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Posted by tupper29406 on October 3, 2016 at 1:59 PM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

Thank you for writing this article. It took a lot of courage given the unbridled anger spewing from many of the above individual comments from the Industry.
This is a self-regulated Industry in Charleston (check out the ordinance). The City does sporadic monitoring by an employee who has no veterinary science nor equine training and is only a part-time monitor. The City Vet is a fertility expert who works in Aiken, hardly someone who has experience with draft horses working in urban environments.
An Independent, Peer review evaluation needs to be conducted on this Industry. CAS has offered to pay for this study.
If the Industry has nothing to hide, then they should welcome an Independent Peer Review evaluation!
PS: The slaughter scare is simply not true. These horses could be adopted by caring equine owners in South Carolina within days; its been done on several occasions when the Industry allows these horses to be offered to equine owners rather than shipped off to slaughter. So please, don't fall for that scare tactic!

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Posted by horselove1231 on October 3, 2016 at 9:32 AM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

Hey Philip Michael - when you're finished with your head shots, take some time to attend journalism school. What a BS article. I'm an animal lover too, but it's easy to see that these horses are cared for and treated well.

The carriage tours are an excellent way to not just tour, but learn about the Holy City and it's history. We've taken several carriage tours over the years and have never seen a horse that was poorly treated, unhealthy or in distress. We've learned something new about Charleston with each carriage tour.

Yes, Charleston summers are hot and humid - but many of the streets have plenty of shade. The carriages stop often (allows the horse to rest) and the horses stroll at an easy pace. On our last carriage (in 2013), the carriage driver explained (at length) how the horses are on rotation between tours and the farm - to rest.

Did you actually suggest taking a tour in a car to see the city? "Stopping to get out whenever you want...". Hey - why not busses? Pollution, more traffic, safety issues....great idea.

Do your homework, like a a real journalist should.

Charleston City Paper - we'd expect more from you than this.

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Posted by Greg Katulka on October 3, 2016 at 1:10 AM

Re: “MOJA R&B concert scheduled for Sat. Oct. 1 has been canceled

I looked forward to attending this event each year. Over the past few years this event has been plaqued with problems. I have learned not schedule my vacation around this event. Poor ticket sales could have been the results of changes of the concert date from 10/8 to 10/1, securing a decent old skool artist, and late planning. Who wants to purchase tickets to an event w/o knowing who the artist is going to be. SO SAD. SO VERY SAD.

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Posted by Rita Mole on October 2, 2016 at 10:15 PM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

What an idiotic article. Maybe you should be the one looking for a job. If I were your editor you would be. Also I just moved here. I love it here. I assure you however CHARLESTON is not the world destination you make it out to be.

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Posted by Jason Taylor on October 2, 2016 at 10:34 AM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

It's time for drastic change and I applaud your article. We Charlestonians and long term residents have spoken out against the carriage industry and for reform for years to silence. I for one am sick and tired of the screamers in the industry misleading everyone on what's humane and not humane in this outdated industry. Just do away with it altogether!

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Posted by barbarella5000 on October 2, 2016 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Stegelin: How to not get shot by police

That guy is black? He's got straight hair. I at first assumed he might be Hispanic or Indian or something like that. Then I read the inscription 3. Don't be black. I mean, very few black men straighten their hair. Among women, it is much more common. But with such short hair, I assumed the person is male.
On the other hand, the cop looks more normal, he looks like a white male. Perhaps a white Hispanic, his hair is black. But his eyes don't look East Asian, but white. Maybe Mediterranean white, like Arab or south Italian, with that black hair. But still recognizably white. He could have a little black ancestry, or Indian, or something, but still, very predominantly white. Though no people are racially pure. But predominantly black men with straight hair must be extremely rare, except if artificially straightened with chemicals. Of course some people in India are extremely dark but have straight hair, but they are not called blacks, that is reserved for people with African origin. The very dark people of India are racially different from similarly dark people from Africa. Likewise some Australian aborigines are very dark and often have straight hair, but they are not typically called blacks, but aborigines. And of course very few of them have immigrated to America. Though in Australia they are often treated badly by cops, so it is similar. Quite a significant percentage of them are criminal, due to poverty, so many cops treat them all with suspicion, like many cops in America treat blacks. It is very sad, and of course in both cases it causes many of them to dislike police, and quite often not even report crimes. So Trump's advocacy of stop and frisk policies, like what has been banned in New York, but still practiced in some places, it is very dangerous. People should not be stopped when they are not doing anything suspicious, just because they look black or Hispanic or American Indian, or aborigine or something. That is not the way to improve community relations with cops.
So I agree with the general message of the cartoon, even if the specific situation is not realistic, the cop is close enough to recognize it is a camera, not a gun.

Posted by Tom Martin on October 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM

Re: “It's time to give up the carriage tour gimmick

Factoryconnection, I can agree with you that people who sell livestock meat can't be very concerned with animal welfare. And the way pigs or chickens are so often terribly crowded on farms, it is not very humane, even if one thinks they are slaughtered humanely, which sometimes they are not. And many such farm animals are fed antibiotics even if they are healthy, just to make them grow more, or to avoid infections because they are so crowded together. That just makes antibiotics so overused, more and more bacteria are becoming immune to them, so then infections will be in the future hard or impossible to treat. This use of antibiotics needs to be banned. They should be used only for emergencies. And as far as environmental reasons, since farm animals consume so much food, it just makes global warming much worse and there are other environmental problems with it.
So for all these reasons, our government should discourage the eating of livestock and poultry, by taxing it heavily. Besides, many foods are much healthier to eat than meat. Then if Mr. Cohen and other people want to continue the slaughter of animals, they can raise the price of meat steeply because of the taxes, and our country will benefit. And poor people will eat more healthy fruits and vegetables, and less meat. Like centuries ago, when meat was a luxury, eaten rarely by most people.

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Posted by Tom Martin on October 1, 2016 at 3:20 PM

Re: “What can we learn from Dorchester County's bee-killing pesticide debacle?

We need to develop some pesticide that kills only mosquitoes. It is terrible to be killing all the insects in an area.

Posted by Tom Martin on October 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM

Re: “Thomas Dixon gives us a choice

We need to ban companies from asking about the arrest or conviction history of prospective employees, except for jobs that require high security or jobs working with children. But for other jobs, people who left the prison and are trying to turn their lives around and not commit any more crimes, they need the opportunity to get the jobs and not be discriminated against. I am lucky that I was not influenced by bad people to be getting drunk or do other drugs, but other people are not that lucky. Lots of kids break the law in their teens or twenties, before they become wiser. And none of us are sinless, like who among us has not been in a fight as a child? So if we have not committed any crimes or misdemeanors, we are lucky, we have had good influences rather than bad influences. When bad kids become wiser adults, turn their lives around, they need jobs.

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Posted by Tom Martin on October 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM

Re: “MOJA R&B concert faces financial crisis

another government bail out of a failure, just because! When does it stop?

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Posted by truthrus on October 1, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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