"Would it have not made sense to attempt to first diffuse the situation peacefully, allowing the students to be disciplined by their families and their school?"
The problem is, the parents would NOT discipline their children. This is likely how the children ended up in this situation. A child does not suddenly go from good to bad overnight, it is a process. Had the parents been made to come down, then the situation likely would have re-escalated as parents refuse to accept that their children are not the little angels they perceive them to be, or begin the discipline process right then and there.
The comments on this article about "respect" is a canned response to incidents like this.
These are kids. We live in a society that normalizes arrests.
Remember the 13th amendment. The school to prison pipeline needs to be dismantled.
Heard the best news today! We received a welcomed and very surprised phone call from a Charleston relative and former customer letting us know that DB's was reopening! Absolute great news. We enjoyed those luscious meals wh the best French fries ever. BTW: we'll be sharing this news from outside Chicago all the way back to SC and Charleston! We're excited; can you tell? Congrats to Danny and may the lines be out the door!
So this civil rights "activist" decided it was okay to violate someone else's civil rights that he disagreed with? Do any of you know the meaning of ironic? Breaking the law for public attention and notoriety is still breaking the law.
Watching this video I observed around the 2:43 mark a student attempting to grab something from the left side of the officer's belt and also saw another large student rush the officer. Bringing the parents in to diffuse the situation would have made the situation worse, as they would have to wait for them to arrive and also you don't want to bring more people into an already volatile situation. Plus if the parents had taught the children respect then we wouldn't have had the incident occur at all. Also around the same time mark you can clearly see one officer putting his body cam back on. Let me ask, how would YOU have diffused the situation peacefully? The police did indeed remove the problem which was assault, not simple students' pranks. You never address the assault on the bus driver and the students stating that they wanted a black driver , not a white one, which is clearly racist, but I don't expect you to understand that. The age of the students do not matter as I read in the paper just this morning of a killing by a 17 year old and a burglary by a 16 year old. You remind me of what the principal said when my daughter complained about being groped in the hallway, " Boys will be boys", which didn't go over well with me or my wife. Perhaps if you ever get assaulted you can ask for the perps name and call his parents to diffuse the situation instead of calling the police.
So we got rid of jaxx and landsnark, two of the worst trolls here. Thank goodness.
So, when a bus full of black people has an altercation and "only black people are arrested", you think that that is some kind of racial profiling!?! What a joke, stop with your white guilt and write about things that matter. Parents need to teach kids respect for authority and shit like this wont happen. I was taught to deal with police like you deal with your grandparents/elders. "Yes sir, sorry sir, never will i do it again sir" even if you think you are in the right. You can deal with the charges in front of a judge later. If you cooperate, you usually get a slap on the wrist.
Wonderful article, good to see that Hyman's Seafood is getting recognized once again as a great restaurant for a complete experience.
I probably have eaten there over 50 times, and maybe I've had bad service twice but the food was always delicious and if it was not, they, the staff , brought out another plate of food to replace whatever I was eating.
If You like soft shell crab, oysters, scallops, great beer and wine selections then it's a great place to visit, nothing fancy just good
Your wise legal advice on statue of limitations is criminal. Which law firm are you with again?
Likely there is a good reason why he decided to settle his one million dollar lawsuit, which only went back three years or so due to statute of limitations.
Enjoy your free crab dip.
They're over priced, poor customer service, and give you very very little for items you sell to them. I only go when they have big sales, otherwise its not worth the money. They have very little good merchandise.
Wow, I feel like I owe the place another visit or two. I am guilty of being one of those who,insist that Hymans is a tourist trap and no self respecting local eats there. Thanks for the article. I am going to go soon and hopefully leave with an appreciation for what the place is. I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong. Thanks!
No, but Jackson did run for president once. My point is that he is more racist than Sessions ever was, but black people seem to get a break when they are blatantly racist. Plus Sessions isn't racist. And your point is...?
Ever-who thinks that this is not a deplorable person stealing from the Girl Scouts, IS deplorable themselves if they condone this.
Hyman's is fine. Not too expensive, not extravagant, great location and great marketing. They are a tourist trap... they soak up hordes of tourists and give them a nice experience that overall adds to the charm of Charleston. Our downtown economy thrives on tourism, so Hyman's is doing their part to fertilize the soil. It benefits them to be certain, but they do a good job with their role.
So I agree that they should accept their status: wildly successful feeder of seafood to tourists, trinket vendor extraordinaires, and not fret too much that locals aren't beating down the door. At worst: Hyman's is a genuinely local, independent business that keeps the lines at your preferred, less-famous place shorter.
I heard these skinhead looking dudes talking in the mall the other day. They were all pissed off at something. Fed up or something like that... One dude was like "Man the chit we got at the gun show is untraceable" The other dude was like "Yeah and hunting rounds will go through their vests". Then the first dude said "Now all we gotta' do is make a bogus call and wait." I wonder what they were talking about?
I have heard the 'Tourist Trap' rap about Hyman's. However, I have never eaten there. This article has turned my head a bit and I may go try it for myself. He seems like a legit guy and I respect that he did the other employees right with that lawsuit. That earned him a chance in my book. I was unaware of all of this until I read this piece.
Re: Back of house tip -- Wait until you have one imperfectly cleaned load of glasses come up (not a threat; if the drain backs up w/ loose food and you're slammed, it can happen), and see how important having a competent dish washer is to making your tip.
The problem is how rarely wait staff recognize quality back-of-house staff. I used to do a little extra bussing while working at Four Corners if I had time, and the staff there would notice and tip out. If that's not happening, depending on how much of your tips were pooled, a little sharing isn't unfair. Just a few bucks -- literally just one four-top's tips -- can make a pretty big difference for those making minimum or near minimum wage.
I wonder how much Hyman's required folks to split.
In any event, I've been going since 1990 when I can. It's been fun to watch the restaurant eat buildings, and I have, to date, always enjoyed eating there myself.
I had the keychain that let you skip the crowd back in the day. I might still have it around somewhere. I didn't know they have a locals card now too!
I get so tired of people saying "don't go to Hyman's, it's a tourist trap." I gave five step-on trolley tours in one day back in January and the people on the bus (LOL) kept saying that a server at so-and-so told us not to go there.
After the second tour I flat out told the third through fifth that I grew up here and I love Charleston and Hyman's is a great restaurant. If you are looking for fancy frou-frou foodie food then you might try elsewhere, chances are good you'll be happy with your dining experience most anywhere in Charleston.
If you are looking for good seafood in a non-pretentious, non-gentrified restaurant where the owners walk around and check on you (TBonz is good at this too, BTW), then Hyman's is the place to go.
Once a few years back, I lunched at Hyman's with friends and the boiled peanuts needed just a few more minutes of boiling and soaking. I told Eli and he promptly thanked me and brought a bowl of peanuts from a different pot. He said, "I appreciate you telling me, we want everyone to have the best experience here and a lot of our customers have never tasted a boiled peanut. We want their first taste to be perfect." -- note this is not an exact quote but it's pretty close, my mind remembers details.
BZ to Hyman's!
PS: I'm sorry they got sued but tip pooling sucks. I remember waiting on tables and having to share/pool tips and it upset me since tips are a reflection on how good YOU the server works. Having to pool tips with Joe Bagadonuts who rarely refills waters or teas and puts his thumb in the plate of grits is not fair. And to share with the back of the house staff never made sense to me. I'd tip the person who helped keep my tables clean and ready for the next diners myself, based on how well they did their job and kept my tips coming in!
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