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Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Google "Trump and Intelligence Community." Clearly any source I post is part of a liberal conspiracy, so maybe you can find one in Google that fits your worldview. Oh wait, Google is against the ban too. So any search results they generate are suspect, right?

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 31, 2017 at 4:33 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Scott will support DeVos; SC and federal Supreme Court picks; Boeing's visual aids

The fired AG was an temporary appointed Obama apparatchik due to leave when Sessions got confirmed. A temporary AG is not the arbitrator of what is constitutional or not, that's what a federal judge determines.

If you refuse as a government official to care out the law you get dismissed. You don't get to pick and choose which laws you want to enforce. I don't remember you whining about Obama firing Bush appointees when he took office and nor your support of Kentucky clerk Kim Davis when she was violating her oath of office by refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays.

Hypocrisy, meet thyself.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on January 31, 2017 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Having grown up in Clearwater, PolitiFac, operated by the left leaning Tampa Bay Times is far from a legitimate nonpartisan source. A quick google of their records of twisting facts might open your eyes.

"The news is full of legitimate sources citing the chaos inside the administration."

More like newspapers looking to sell more newspapers. And what exactly does this have to do with my request for you to back up your claim that that the administration is currently ignoring governmental intel on making this current decision on the temporary ban?

I asked for a source, you failed, but I see you've already gone back to deflection and name calling. Your going to have a long four years, at least you can rant here.

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Posted by Lisa Vergara on January 31, 2017 at 2:40 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

"You clearly wouldn't support anything Trump would do".

I support this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/poli…

Politifact is nonpartisan, and I've given you several facts that aren't merely my opinion. The news is full of legitimate sources citing the chaos inside the administration. But it doesn't matter. We have alternative facts now and you are free to remain in denial.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 31, 2017 at 1:57 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Conceivable they can be added. Obviously those countries have been the source of terrorists in the past (15 years ago). Six of those listed now reflect where Al Qaeda and ISIS are strongest in 2016, many were they hold territory and have access to passport manufacturing capabilities. - I'm leaving out Iran as it has separate security issues. - I've been told by friends in the immigration department that since the whole governmental structure has broken down in Syria, Somalia and Libya that it's difficult to know what know what is or what is not authentic documents.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on January 31, 2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Why is Saudi Arabia and Egypt not included in the ban if the goal is to protect Americans from terrorist?

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Posted by SEC on January 31, 2017 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Your personal opinion about what Intel is being currently listened to and used to determine why the ban (a temporary 90 day ban at that) was put in place is just that and nothing more. What is your source for all this insider information?....Rachel Maddow? Chris Matthews? Cite a non-partisan source that this administration is not using current Intel to make these decisions.

You clearly wouldn't support anything Trump would do as you cavalierly throw around leftist ad hominem attack points...."dictator", "fascism", "Cowards, all of you who support this", "Not being able to come to terms with reality" i.e. crazy and the old, your not a patriot because argument - "You cannot possibly claim to love this country and what it stands for and support these dangerous men".

Spare us your "irrational" hysterics,and back up your points with facts for once.

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Posted by Lisa Vergara on January 31, 2017 at 12:02 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

"the rest of us will support the people who have the intel"

That is one of the points - the Trump administration is not listening to the people with the intel! Look at the unprecedented shakeup with putting Bannon on the NSC and removing the Director of Intellgience and the Joint Chiefs Chair. He is ignoring his own intelligence community. How can you be so obtuse?

Not being able to come to terms with reality doesn't make every argument against you a straw man.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 31, 2017 at 11:23 AM

Re: “The Agenda: Scott will support DeVos; SC and federal Supreme Court picks; Boeing's visual aids

Meanwhile Trump just fires whomever doesn't give him the answer he wants when the current AG said she would not defend the executive order because it did not stand constitutional muster. Jeff Sessions, Trump's very own pick for AG suggested that no one should buckle to Trump, but what are you to do if you are just going to get fired for it. Double standard, convenient hypocrisy or dictatorship?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yDjylQ5P…

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Posted by tupper29406 on January 31, 2017 at 11:15 AM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Again another straw man, seems to be all you can ever come up with.

It not "irrational" nor "authoritarianism" to secure our borders and implement a proactive defense particularly when dealing with failed terrorist harboring states which these seven are. Experiment with your own life and safety, the rest of us will support the people who have the intel to determine what the risk factors are and are willing to act accordingly.

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Posted by Lisa Vergara on January 31, 2017 at 8:24 AM

Re: “Charleston Symphony Orchestra launches new club, CSOgo

I was a member of the CSO's Decomposing Composers Society long ago. I hope they fill the slots but $35/mo is kinda steep. The parties must be spectacular.

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Posted by Robin Hillyer Miles on January 31, 2017 at 7:18 AM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

If you're not Native American, you need to go back where your ancestors came from because immigrants tyrannically invaded and took over their lands.

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Posted by tupper29406 on January 31, 2017 at 6:40 AM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

I suppose it's also anecdotal that no one from any of the countries under the ban has killed American citizens, but the vast majority of terrorist attacks in this country since 9/11 have been by American citizens. It's also anecdotal you are more likely to be killed by a car than killed by a terrorist.

You are defending authoritarianism, plain and simple, because you're irrationally frightened. This is not going to make any of us safer, and it's tragic you think it will.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 31, 2017 at 5:51 AM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Throwing around anecdotal evidence of those who are legitimate refugees (children) to support your straw man argument glaringly overlooks that terrorists have already infiltrated the west blending in with refugees. The attacks in Paris proved that. A 90 day temporarily ban to reassess the current vetting system seem reasonable.

Name calling those who are legitimately concerned about the safety of all Americans cowards, is not only pathetic but indicates you'd happily sacrifice American lives on the altar of political correctness.

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Posted by Lisa Vergara on January 31, 2017 at 12:29 AM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Land of the free, home of the brave.

This is what Trump is protecting us from:

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/01/30/m…

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/syrian…

Cowards, all of you who support this.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 30, 2017 at 10:16 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

Not that facts matter to Trump or his supporters: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st…

Obama went through the proper legal channels as well and consulted with the State Department and DHS on carrying out the order, which, if you take five minutes to research it, is not the same as Trump's decree at all.

To Trump supporters, I ask this: Even if you agree with the ban, how can you support the way it is being carried out? We just heard for eight years how executive orders are the sign of a dictator. Or does that only apply when black presidents who are Democrats sign them?

This ban is the brainchild of a self-proclaimed white nationalist (Bannon) who went on record saying the wanted to destroy the state by sewing chaos. It was not vetted by Trump's legal team, DHS, or the State Department. No one on the administration is on the same page, and now Trump and Bannon are working to silence the dissenters. That is not democracy. That is fascism. You cannot possibly claim to love this country and what it stands for and support these dangerous men.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on January 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM

Re: “La Hacienda King Street has closed

Dan, everybody is welcome to their opinion of food quality, but for you to state that a first-generation Mexican immigrant "hasn't a clue what real Mex is..." is just too ignorant to put aside. Have you even met him?

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Posted by BNP29412 on January 30, 2017 at 9:30 PM

Re: “The photos you weren't supposed to see, until now

Great shots, love the light on Catherine Moye (oyster harvesting). The shot of Ray Fischer is excellent as well. Enjoyable article and I understand the pressure to be spontaneously creative. -Ferrell McCollough

Posted by Ferrell McCollough on January 30, 2017 at 7:26 PM

Re: “Dozens rally in Marion Square to oppose immigration ban

They protested at the Charleston Holocaust Memorial, dedicated to Jews who died in the Holocaust, in support of a temporary ban, to protect all Americans, on the influx of "immigrants / refugees" from seven failed state / terrorist supporting nations who regularly exterminate Jews, plan and execute the destruction of Israel and will not ever acknowledge the exist of the Jewish state.

The hypocrisy is thick but I doubt if any of them could even understand that.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on January 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM

Re: “Nikki Haley's first press conference as Trump administration U.N. ambassador: "We're taking names"

There was no travel ban in place before Saturday. Those seven countries were not on the visa waiver list (the setup that allows me to travel to, say, France with only a passport but no visa, and vice-versa) but there was no ban. The level of vetting is high, raised by President Obama in response to a specific incident in which militant bomb makers had evaded the screen. If you're talking refugees, the process is incredibly long and the refugees themselves cannot determine the country they go to.

Perhaps if our President Trump would be specific about what portion of the vetting is insufficient, and what reason already-legal-resident Green-Card holders should be banned from the country, and why the entire refugee program for anyplace in the world is suspended, people might not have an issue with it. But our President isn't, so we do.

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