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Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

@wjhamilton,The Kennedys and Clinton set the standard long before Sanford but that is an inconvenient truth to you.

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Posted by truthrus on May 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

"They grew up an an America without limits or consequences, where you got to have the great society, Vietnam War and moon landing all at the same time. It's difficult for them to comprehend that hard choices are required now and you can't just spend your way out of every bad choice."

WJH sounds like a responsible fiscal conservative here. I like it.

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Posted by Paulius on May 10, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

Laura Elmore Floyd, I can respect conservatives like you. And what the heck is this "socialist agenda" people keep talking about? It doesn't exist. It's a fantasy. If keeping my Social Security and Medicare benefits is a "socialist agenda" then I'm on board. Why do so many Republicans want to take my benefits away and use them to pay down a debt that was created, and is still being created, by overblown defense spending?

And before you start ranting about the ACA being "socialist," take a look at all the money those "capitalist" insurance companies are going to make from it. Europeans have socialized medical care, which is a completely different thing. Of course your tv and radio demagogues aren't going to tell you that.

Obama is about as far left as Nixon. Reagan would be too liberal for the Tea Party.
And this president has spent far less than either Reagan or Bush. Our deficits are from unpaid-for wars, but you still imagine that racking up debt with an "R" beside your name doesn't really count. That's fiscal conservatism? Less government regulation means corporations take up the slack. They will own you, and you will not be able to vote them out.

Sanford is just another one of those guys who picks up a cushy government paycheck and benefits for life, while telling you government is "bad." And who cheats on his wile and steals from his state while lecturing people on "family values." Just another con man.

Now go ahead. Flame me all you want. You know you want to.

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Posted by bluesbrrd on May 10, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

I get so sick of people like you blaming "southerners". How many people do you know who are actually from Charleston? None. They are all yankees just like you who come down here and bitch and complain. Go Home!

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Posted by briteside on May 10, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Re: “Folly Beach County Park could reopen this summer”

Be nice to have that park open again. Hope the impact to Bird Key Stono and Zimmer Flats will be minimal. Thanks for the story.

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Posted by Rob Britt on May 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

Sweetheart, you have no conception of the infrastructure improvement needed to grow Charleston substantively. Every traffic interchange is a bottleneck now. Creeks, topography and tides force awkward traffic patterns with single arteries feeding large communities. To widen and upgrade the region's traffic situation will cost hundreds of millions to billions of dollars. And you plan on cutting taxes.
Lovely Ayn Randian fantasy you have there, but please run the numbers.

Are you paid to write these articles?

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Posted by landsnark on May 10, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

"Ryland Homes, for example, has raised the base price on its new construction homes by $13,000 since October. "

You say that like it's a good thing - is the house $13,000 better than it was in October? So much for affordable housing. Whatever the market will bear. It would be nice if this region produced enough jobs that actually paid enough to enable locals to buy homes.

Texas is a "booming" economy, alright! It's also a poster child for what happens when businesses run rampant and there are no zoning laws. Whole towns blow up there on a regular basis, while the governor refuses federal money for any services used by non-wealthy citizens. Actually, it's starting to sound a lot like South Carolina will be after Sanford goes back to Washington.

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Posted by bluesbrrd on May 10, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

Sanford has violated one of the core directives which has allowed his class to rule the South Carolina Lowcountry for a century and half (or more). While they fornicate, gamble, drink and use drugs (even in the 19th. century) they were expected to maintain a decent appearance in public. You could sleep with your slaves and maintain your mistresses, you never, ever exposed the public to it. You pretended to live modestly and decently while at home and kept your randy sinning on the Plantation or out of town. You, in Charleston, parlance, "kept your Jacket on."

That principle is now down the toilet. The concept of public decency in our community's leadership is now passe. Decent people can't pretend their leaders are decent any longer and go on with the PTA or charity work without feeling humiliated and stupid. Sanford is the standard now.

And for that, over time, there will be hell to pay in Charleston. Nobody has to behave now. Those that do may regard themselves as fools.

Full details on my blog http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/08/1…

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Posted by wjhamilton29464 on May 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

Sanford won the same way he won the primary, name recognition and the R after his name. His moral and ethical failings are immaterial to the hypocritical base.
ECB, from what I heard and read, was "R lite" for all intents and purposes, which is about the only way a D can be competitive in this state.
If Dems really cared about a Progressive agenda, Green would have been competitive.

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Posted by reality strikes on May 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

We have plenty of room for more people here, but not if they all want to live on half an acre of land in what used to be the country, have a four lane highway to the grocery store six miles away and expect EMS and the police to arrive in 3 minutes when they call 911. We have huge areas on the Charleston Neck and in North Charleston which are vacant. These areas can be served by transit and already have most of the necessary, expensive infrastructure in place. However this generation now retiring, raised in the burbs on cheap, abundant gasoline wants to retire that way. They don't realize that in ten years they won't be able to drive and the places they want to live don't have the density to support public transit. They don't really grasp how much it costs to provide the level of public services they demand to areas which are so spread out. We're already meeting them all over the Lowcountry, tapped out, not really able to drive any longer and pretty unhappy about it. They still want EMS at their door in three minutes, but they don't want to pay any taxes. They grew up an an America without limits or consequences, where you got to have the great society, Vietnam War and moon landing all at the same time. It's difficult for them to comprehend that hard choices are required now and you can't just spend your way out of every bad choice.

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Posted by wjhamilton29464 on May 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

The people who are usually the most adamant against more growth are those that just moved here. It is almost comical how often I hear people say "well I moved here 3-5 years ago and just wish the growth would stop". Well trust me when I tell you, the people that lived here before you felt the same way....

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Posted by dp4 on May 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

Sanford did not beat Colbert-Busch.

He beat Nancy Pelosi and the entire DNC machine. He beat them despite being outspent. He beat them despite being cut off from the support of his own party. And he beat them all thoroughly. It wasn't even close.

A million dollar smear campaign made him toxic to even his own party, yet, a plurality of voters preferred the shame of being represented by the luv guv over the thought of empowering the Democrat party with control of the House.

Democrats wanted this campaign to be a referendum on Mark Sanford's personal shortcomings. Sanford made the campaign a referendum on the national Democrat party and its leadership.

Note to Democrats: This speaks volumes about your popularity.

Interesting.

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Posted by I P Yuengling on May 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

Dear nofaith: The question remains: "What is their end game?"

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Posted by DangYankee on May 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

This is horrible. More development and population growth in Charleston are the worst things that could happen to the area, which is already overpopulated and environmentally threatened by out of control growth. Sure, the economic needs of its people are something we need to worry about, but not at the expense of everything that makes the city a place worth living. And that's exactly the price we're paying, and are likely to pay if things keep up the way they're going.

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Posted by mhenrylucero on May 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

dangyankee,,you are a perfect poster child for why people should have to take an intelligence test before they vote!

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Posted by truthrus on May 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

An insane idea. "the South Carolina coast as a whole, from Hilton Head to Charleston to Myrtle Beach, should be marketed to baby boomer retirees in direct competition with Florida" As Florida's experience conclusively demonstrates this idea works well in the beginning when retirees flush with cash have and spend a lot of money, while demanding little in terms of social support, transit, educational services for children or healthcare. A healthy 70 year old is great for a state's bottom line, however 10 years later at 80 their savings are often exhausted, their income has sagged, their no longer generating sales taxes, they need healthcare, transportation and assistance from law enforcement. One person with Alzhiembers wandering off into the woods can burn up ten thousand dollars in police overtime and does so regularly in Florida. Their families live far away, where there are real jobs and better schools for their now great grandchildren, so local government has to keep these people alive. In the end, some government agency has to get a search warrant, break into their home and clean up after their lonely and sometimes very messy deaths, finding people who may have been dead for days or weeks. Many people of this generation have no surviving family at this age to come care for them. Be careful what you wish for here. Beaufort already has this, and it isn't working down there.

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Posted by wjhamilton29464 on May 10, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Mark Sanford's victory is a triumph of ideology over decency”

The SCOTUS is not a legislative body (although both sides could make a reasonable argument against that in many cases) and the Senate has a Democratic majority. Because of the slim majority it may make it harder for them to do things but that means that instead of blocking everything they need to compromise. Even with that, though, they still have the majority and control all of the committees, the reason that pretty nothing gets done up there. All they want to do is nothing and blame their ineptitude on Republicans instead of actually sitting down and compromising on the 90% that most folks agree on and driving forward.

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Posted by nofaith on May 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Re: “CofC graduation this weekend”

Hey, these drivers are no worse than the typical tourist. But just be wary of them and don't get too excited. These folks help pay some of our bills with their dollars. And it is time to go shopping for furniture for the man cave, or the rental, or the double-wide, outside the dorms. These kids have no way of taking their stuff home, so they just leave it outside for anyone who wants it. Sort of like manna, or something.

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Posted by localhutch on May 10, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Re: “The Agenda: Deconstructing SC-1, Sanford hearing called off, Graham stockpiles for primary”

And how long do you think it would take for them to move their executive offices to DE if it meant more sales?

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Posted by Paulius on May 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Re: “Only a bold move will bring big biz to the Holy City”

This blowhard woman doesn't want any math or facts to get in the way of her brilliant ideas. If she keeps this up, she'll be a Fox News contributor in no time.

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Posted by Bacon on May 10, 2013 at 9:53 AM
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