If it is such a small subset then why is there an issue with letting them work and have fun until two in the morning? I have yet to meet anyone with any knowledge of what happens downtown that thinks that closing the bars and trying to end the nightlife scene in Charleston is a good idea. And if you think that is not the eventual goal you can meet me with cash for the bridge you surely will want to purchase.
Maybe it is a small subset, I don't know because it was unilaterally decided by Mayor Reilly. No vote, no presentation to the community, including the business people it affects the most, just bring it out of nowhere and spring it on everyone. If this is something that they think the community wants why not bring it up to everyone? Yes, the F&B people are the ones who are directly affected but the loss of a vibrant night life cascades through an entire community, especially an urban/tourist/college one.
But when you look at things like the thirty people who work at Charleston Beer Works who will be losing their jobs that makes a difference. And all of the other jobs that would have been created from the growth that is happening down town. But I guess you will go ahead and hire them to do something making the same kind of money that they made in the past as or at least supplement the loss of income for all of the F&B staff who's pay checks will be a lot lighter.
And I guess I can also expect you to cough up the money (or at least vote for the City to do so) to compensate the property and business owners for the loss in value of their investment.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Actually went there twice- OK the first time, second time smelled smoke, looked up, and realized that there were nicotine addicts sitting right across the bar from me.
Outside, but still blowing smoke into the bar.
I complained, left, and never returned.
One car accident, swerved off road, lost control, 2:30 am, alcohol was a factor.---per Live 5 News. When will people learn, drinking then getting in your car never ends good. Let's report ALL the new city paper. RIP
again, nofaith, no brain. Asking a minor subset of a subset of the population is not representative of general opinion, but obviously from recent comments nofaith believes his beliefs are those of the majority. Charleston ego-centricity at it's finest.
Troll, for someone who dislikes in/out bars, or funding them, you seem to have a lot of experience dining at BB. Keep on fighting the good fight, but don'tt inflate your dining experience.
As someone who dislikes smoking just as much as Troll, I can honestly say that me nor my gaggle of children who dine there frequently, have been affected or even noticed smoking. It is not even close to the dining area.
My complaint is salt. I feel like I need a gallon of water after I eat there. I may be ordering the wrong items, everything seems highly salted. It is a chill, kickback place. A nice conversion of a previous restaurant. Hope it stays successful.
I would suggest that Mr. Bruni interview a few of the late night F&B employees and future bar owners who Riley is trying to run out of town to see just how popular he is.
Jacks could be good if they used Nathan's hot dogs.
He is a great guy and in a much better situation. CSU firing him shows just how shallow they are. This is what political correctness looks like from the other direction.
How many of you have at one point in your life said to yourself that you would love to visit Kyoto? I love our city and the food & bev scene that is the primary force behind its lofty rankings in most polls, but lets take it down a notch. We are not the greatest city in the world. If you really take this poll seriously, let me know how your trip to Kyoto went...
Yeah, JD, just ignore my points about industry and jobs. Also, my main point that it has nothing to do with a ranking in Travel and Leisure.
"What I'm not surprised about is that the comments mostly discuss topics not related to the article."
Not surprising at all. Completely unrelated statistics, presented in a manner that even loses sight of any real conclusion.
"I wish all these people that want Charleston to grow into some huge, sprawling city would just move to a big city now and get it over with."
Agreed. We should start a fund to help these people move to their large cities. Personally, I am hoping the growth in this area starts to die off. I just doubt that will happen.
I'm very happy to see that he's gotten a gig.
Fuck that God Squad school that fired him. He's in a better situation now. Fact.
"COC a much better fit. More into the alcohol and drug scene. A liberal arts school I believe."
"It looks like he's going where he should be. I'm a CofC grad and let's face it, their standards on anything moral have never been their strong suit. They're too busy bowing down to the PC gods. 100% behind CSU's decision."
Another person that has never even read any background on this, and knows nothing about this professor. While you are judging his morals behind your computer screen, he is out there raising money for people who need it. So, what have you done with your life?
What a sad, tragic story. Ugh. The lawsuits don't make it any better, either.
Nicely written, Allston!!! Hugs!
I will, however, continue to post warnings about places with these in/out bars, or open roll up doors between the smoking and non- smoking areas, such as seem to be so prevalent in Mt. Pleasant.
People need to be warned about those places where they are not properly protected from secondhand smoke so they and their families, especially their children, can avoid these places.
Those who don't give a shit are welcome to ignore my warnings and patronize those places anyway.
I really don't give a shit myself about what others do to themselves, but it is not acceptable when their behavior is damaging to my health.
So smokers ( and vapors!), take your poison outside and have at.
Establishment owners, stop trying to circumvent the smoking ordinances, protect your non smoking majority of customers, and your employees, by making sure that we are not exposed to that poison.
Try sitting at the bar across from the open windows to the outside bar, where the addicts sit and blow smoke in at you.
If they would keep those windows closed, and the outside smoke outside, then I would no longer have a problem with that place.
As long as the smokers and the smoke remain outside I'm good.
"The problem isn't outdoor smoking, it's the smoke being blown inside where it isn't supposed to be."
Why not bring this up to the management?
"If you go there, you are exposed to poisonous tobacco smoke.
Not smoke free, not acceptable."
I have been there a few times and never once had an issue with smoke. I am all for the smoking ban inside establishments, but I don't have any issue with it outside. Many places I visit allow smoking outside, and I have never had issues at these establishments.
Enjoyed the article Larry. Maybe you should stick to writing about music. History is not your strong suit. Guess you can't handle the truth. Cheers! Russell
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