Tried to bring my dog to Poe's a while back and was told they don't allow dog's on the patio anymore. This was a summer or two back though. Has this changed?
I take my dog to a local, open to the public, beach and she can run off-leash everyday, all day within a 3000 foot stretch of beach. Guess where.
Folly was a ghost town the month after the alcohol ban. I remember the first weekend after the initial ban, we had to drive down to McKevlin's to pick up a board. We got a late start and were not heading down Folly Rd until noon. I was prepared to sit in traffic for an hour, as that tends to be the norm for Saturdays in the summer. Oddly enough, there wasn't another car headed to the beach. It was eery. Once we made it into the downtown area on Folly, we only saw a few people walking around. I am not sure if that will be the turn out for this summer, but I know it had to hurt businesses last summer.
A huge group (30-45) from where I work used to take the day off on Memorial Day and hang out on Folly to have some beers and play on the beach. We've all lived in the area for some time. None of us were ever arrested, none of us drove home drunk, nobody ever complained that we were being too rowdy. Now, none of the beaches allow consumption of alcohol, responsibly or not. This year it appears we won't be going to the beach. I'm sure we won't be the only ones to pass in favor of other options.
Was at Folly Beach a week ago enjoying the food and beverages at FBSC (which is under new management and could use another name) and I can tell you that for all the drinking that is not being done on the beach, patrons of area restaurants are taking up the slack. Everywhere you looked people were crowding into local establishments and even the Crosby's Seafood Friday night "dinner on the dock" had over 100 dinners enjoyed the open air ambiance of eating seafood beside the very fishing boats that caught it while watching a beautiful sunset over the marsh. (Have to wonder if their business license really allows that, but what the heck, sure looks like fun to me.) I am sure the beach ban will hurt a few businesses but overall it would appear to be a good thing. Now if they can just ban noisy motorcycles..
I don't see how you can call this propaganda, Chris. It's really nothing more than an update on where the ban-opposition movement stands, with some colorful language to make it an interesting read. My inclusion of LaJuan was reason enough to stick to a straight-forward approach that doesn't waver to either side. I respect her and her stance throughout this process. I think you've read it with strong bias. And of course, you're right - if they don't get the signatures they need, it's a dead issue. If they do, the story explains the process of what will happen. Simple as that. Finally, you'd be surprised how many people who do not live on Folly aren't exactly sure what the status of the ban is. I have to tell people all the time, especially now that it's beach weather, that 'yes, drinking is illegal now.' So the piece was also a reader service to reinforce that the ban is indeed in place.
No doubt, the beer pour into Coke cans
is rampant, not that I have ever done that. No way.
1) 357 citizens was the number of signatures that had been validated by the Elections Board when they called it quits; there were many more pages of signatures had they wanted to continue, but there was no point. I think it took a grand total of two weeks to gather all these signatures.
2) The Council had no legal right to "[consider] a partial ban or another compromise". By law they had to consider the proposal "substantially as written" on the petition. If it passed (as it did), the petition language was enacted as an ordinance. Please note that any CHANGES in this ordinance are MUCH EASIER given that it's a Council-passed ordinance rather than as a plebiscite-enacted one. It it had failed before Council, the proposal would have gone to plebiscite (vote of the residents). Quite a risk, given the stirred-up nature of the electorate following the fracas regularly termed a "riot" by papers, TV, and radio. ONLY if the proposal had FAILED both in Council and in a popular vote could any "compromise" proposal be made... but what would be the point if those were the facts?
3) Astoundingly, tax receipts from businesses ROSE over the previous year for the months following the widely-reported "riot". I would think most people who'd heard of a "riot" occurring somewhere would avoid that place until they heard more reassuring news. It's hardly significant to highlight year-over-year comparisons until some kind of stasis has been established.
Fuck the Ban; drink covertly.
I endorse covert, discreet, illegal drinking.
PURE propaganda being printed by the City paper. Just another attempt by the Marketers to juice up the Bonjovi chardonnay matrons-gone-wild visitors, hipsters and teeny-boppers. (note the PBR... lol) If there were the numbers of VALID signatures it would be submitted to council or placed into a referendum.
"those guys who took the vote away from those who wanted to make a decision based on law."
Laws passed by elected officials are based on law.
The Folly Police can't (or won't) even make sure that all dogs are leashed, never mind what's in your cup.
"What is the word on very discreet drinking on the beaches? Are the cops going to go around and be the beer Nazis, or will they just go about their business if no one is flaunting a brew or a glass of vino?"
My experience has been that keeping your drink in a plastic cup (or other discreet container) pretty much guarantees you won't have issue with the IOP cops. I am not sure about Folly, but I assume it would be similar there.
Hey, if some of you ban folks want to sell your houses on the cheap, I'm interested in putting some money into some beach property. You shits rent out these places anyway, so why do you care if we have a few brews on the beach? I'd personally like to vote out those guys who took the vote away from those who wanted to make a decision based on law. Maybe we can get some folks in there who care about Bert and merchants like him. Next time a bus full of idiots come calling and make a scene, how about arresting the first 12 or so, and then we won't have a problem.
What is the word on very discreet drinking on the beaches? Are the cops going to go around and be the beer Nazis, or will they just go about their business if no one is flaunting a brew or a glass of vino? I personally like to sit on the beach and enjoy a cool one, and would never have an exposed can or bottle. But, if I do what I do while downtown Chas., I simply fill empty Mt. Dew or Coke 1/2 liter bottles all the way to the top, and they work out fine and don't lose their fizz. I also put vino in the same empty containers. Have never been approached by a cop yet, but now I guess the word is out, and I'll have to think up something else.
Try Luke n' Ollie's when out on IOP, excellent Philly Cheese Steaks! Right by the Baskin Robbins.
no mention of loggerheads for folly? best place for a burger and beer in folly love the people at loggerheads as well
I wanna dip my balls in it!
Nick, sorry for the late endorsement, but congratulations! You will be the first of many gay politicians in SC, who will change the face of the palmetto state from being backward-looking and obscurantist (not quite sure what it means, but it sounds good!! hahaha) to being part of a liberal democracy, where every person knows they have a stake in the future of SC, according to the principle - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for ALL!
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