Saying kids should not be in restaurants that serve alcohol is ludicrous. Practically all sit down restaurants serve at least beer and wine. Even Chuck-E-Cheeses that is unarguably geared toward to children serves beer (listed on their online menu if you don't believe me). Society is made up of people of all ages and you are just going to have to deal with that if you want to go out in public. I am not saying that there aren't places where children don't belong but I think your expectations are totally unrealistic. (And P.S. - even parents can use designated drivers)
But that being said, I'm going to stick with what little principles that I have and state this as my opinion:
1. Children should never be in any establishment that serves alcohol.
2. Children should never be in a vehicle with a driver who has been drinking at all.
I'm not much on more laws, but if these don't exist they need to be passed.
I did not use the word "Restaurant", factory, but I do see your point that the line between them and bars can be blurred.
And yes, I do hold drivers with children in their cars to a higher standard than others.
Another suggestion for fall beers is the Lazy Magnolia Pecan. At some point Holy City made an awesome pecan beer in the fall but I'm not sure if they still do.
Trollslayer: every bar around here is a restaurant, and every restaurant is a bar. It is cute if you're saying "no kids in restaurants," but really... come on. Also: if one drink is too much to drive, then what is anyone doing in bars other than those within walking distance? A whole lotta full parking lots belie the fault in your argument.
Kids sitting at the bar specifically, though? Yeah I can see how that is too far.
I am in Spain all month. EVERYBODY brings their multiple kids and multiple dogs everywhere. Bars, cafes, restaurants, tapas. Lots of wine and beer. It's actually seems perfectly okay to me and this is very acceptable in all of Europe. Of course they are all walking, unlike the majority of fatass Americans who have to drive everywhere. DSS would have a field day in Madrid and Barcelona. Guess what? Some kids still catch a swat on the ass when acting up in public in Spain. Gasp! The horror! Guess thats why I do not even really notice them here, they behave.
5/6 ain't bad, I guess. I don't really love pumpkin beers in the first place, so I wasn't going into the Pumpkick expecting much anyway, but I was surprised I didn't hate it. Thx for the feedback.
"How and where to imbibe with your kids in tow "
Surely I'm not the only one who has a problem with this.
So you are going to drink and then drive your children home?
You deserve to be arrested and have DSS take your children if you do that.
Children do not belong in bars, PERIOD, and anyone who shows up at a bar with children needs to be turned back at the door.
I thought I had seen every sick columnist that the CCP has but this one takes the cake.
Pumpkick is awful. The rest I am on board with. I love a lot of New Belgium beers, but Pumpkick belongs in the junk pile.
But several times in the past month I have left more than one bar because of children sitting at the bar. Not only is it illegal (I'm pretty sure) so I don't know why the managers allow it anyway, but single people don't want to sit at a table for four in a mass of screaming kids running around. I want to sit at the bar and unwind from my 12 hour shift in peace. So as much as your kids are enjoying watching football and having Shirley Temples please head to the back of the restaurant or just stay home.
As someone that has played in a number of bands that do happy-hour shows, I've always appreciated having kids around. Those mofos are ready to dance like they just don't care while all the "party animals" are still too sober/terrified to even bob their heads. Rock on, little tykes. If mom has the right tip in hand, I'll even sing "Let it Go" for you.
As a parent, most of the advice in this article is solid: keep the kids out of adult stuff: fancy/smoky/gnarly/bawdy/romantic places and get them in bed before night. Your kids don't want to be there for party time. Kids aren't classy, so don't force them to be. And they should NEVER, EVER, EVER be running around or raising their voices any louder than the adults at the next table.
In your own house away from people who do not want to be bothered by your annoying children. Or, get a babysitter. If you can afford to go out and drink, you can afford hired help for a few hours.
The Barrel on JI near Folly.
And remember everyone:
Every extra person who bikes, takes a car out of traffic and out of valuable street parking.
That said, try to make them feel safe by avoiding passing them in a narrow lane and everything else you can think of :)
More tips n' laws:
** Your bike WILL BE CONFISCATED by the City if you park on anything but a corral on KING STREET between Calhoun and Spring. Don't expect a note -- if your bike is parked illegally and disappears, grab $40 cash and head to the police station on Lockwood. And be ready to buy a new lock.
** DON'T TEXT on your bike -- it's illegal, you can be ticketed.
** Helmets aren't mandatory, just a good idea. Find one you like and give it a try.
** And to reiterate, USE LIGHTS on your bike -- white on the front, red on the back. You can be ticketed and fined if you're seen biking without them at night.
Nice map, Suchy.
This is a nice list of beers. However, Rodenbach is not brewed by the makers of bavik.
You should really mention something about the rip tides. Believe me when I say that the rip tide will take you away. There are more water missions for ignorant and misinformed people and anything on the Island. Trust me. My family has been there since 1906.
VRBO has all the rental places on SI. Some of the older, non-beachfront ones aren't very expensive.
A trip to the top of the SI lighthouse was a standard outing for SI Elementary students in the early 80's. Great view unmatched from any other local building except the Morris Island lighthouse.
How hipster kool is Folly Beach? Just look at all the plaid and craft beer being peddled to CofC kool kids.
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