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Comment Archives: Stories: Special Issues: Civil War Issue

Re: “The Old Slave Mart is one of the few museums to expose America's shameful past

The Old Slave Mart Museum is a great museum in Charleston. It is a rare find and is worth the trip. Keep in mind that many visitors have said it can be a challenge for young children. There is a lot of reading involved. One aspect that seems lost is the role free blacks had in owning slaves. Additionally, most slave were caught by other Africans. Few know that there was slavery in Africa long before the transAtlantic slave trade.

Posted by JOHN ELLIOTT on November 2, 2013 at 6:02 AM

Re: “We need to remember and learn from the Civil War, not celebrate it

Truthgiver, what the hell are you talking about?.....weird!

Posted by Jusme on April 8, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Re: “The Old Slave Mart is one of the few museums to expose America's shameful past

Bigwillie: There is a big difference between a marker saying that something occurred and an actual relic from the time. Also, how many people pay attention to all of the markers along the streets? Can you tell me about the hundreds that are here in Charleston? Doubtful. I think what the article is trying to say is that instead of passively "speaking" about the Slave Trade, Charleston (the port in which the largest number of slaves entered through in the US) is having an active conversation about this sensitive topic.

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Posted by HolyCityFangirl on April 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Re: “We need to remember and learn from the Civil War, not celebrate it

Sadly, the present is no different than the past. The ones who benefit the most (i.e., the very wealthy) from fooling the others into believing that resisting changes that are beneficial to the population as a whole, are selling them a line of malarkey. "Someday you will be like us, then you will be glad you did our bidding." is the line. "It will require sacrifice from all of us." they say, but take a hard look at who is doing the sacrificing. Would that we could learn from the past.

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Posted by Truthgiver on April 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM

Re: “The story of a boy and his infatuation with the Rebel flag

Since I'm to the point where I don't even care to talk about anything other than just odd stuff, here's the aforementioned picture of Mr. H.K. Edgerton, along with Kirk Lyons and Neil Payne.…

Posted by mat catastrophe on April 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Re: “The story of a boy and his infatuation with the Rebel flag

The flag that we know as the Confederate Battle Flag was used by many (but by no means all) Confederate military units during the War for Southern Independence (1861-1865). It was their flag, and they alone had the right to interpret its meaning.

When the War was over, the Confederate soldiers became Confederate veterans. They formed an organization known as the United Confederate Veterans. The Confederate Battle Flag was still their Flag, and they alone had the right to interpret its meaning.

In 1896, since many of the Confederate veterans were aged, infirm, and dying off, the Sons of Confederate Veterans was formed as the successor organization to the United Confederate Veterans. The legacy and authority of the United Confederate Veterans was transferred to them over the next ten years. This transfer of power culminated in a speech given 25 April 1906 at New Orleans, Louisiana by Stephen Dill Lee, Confederate lieutenant-general, and commander-in-chief of the United Confederate Veterans:

"To you, Sons of Confederate Veterans, we will commit the vindication of the cause for which we fought. To your strength will be given the defense of the Confederate soldier's good name, the guardianship of his history, the emulation of his virtues, the perpetuation of those principles which he loved and which you love also, and those ideals which made him glorious and which you also cherish. Are you also ready to die for your country? Is your life worthy to be remembered along with theirs? Do you choose for yourself this greatness of soul?
Not in the clamor of the crowded street,
Not in the shouts and plaudits of the throng,
But in ourselves are triumph and defeat."

Since 25 April 1906, therefore, the Confederate Battle Flag has been the flag of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. They alone have the right to interpret its meaning. They have interpreted its meaning, and explained (repeatedly!) that meaning – and it is not hatred, nor is it bigotry.

Any interpretation of the Confederate Battle Flag other than that given by the Sons of Confederate Veterans is, at best, spurious.

To refute the oft-repeated lie that the War for Southern Independence was fought over slavery, I need only mention the Corwin Amendment -- proposed by Congressman Thomas Corwin of Ohio, passed by Congress 2 March 1861, and endorsed by Abraham Lincoln. That amendment read: "No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

If the seceded States had wished to perpetuate slavery, they had only to re-join the Union and ratify that amendment. They did not because they were escaping an overweening, all-intrusive big government.

Posted by SylviasDaddy on April 6, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Re: “The story of a boy and his infatuation with the Rebel flag

Frankly sir, I think the rest of us (including our Confederate ancestry looking down from Heaven) are proud you no longer associate yourself with our Southern flag too if your past history is any indication of what sort of peckerwood trash you are descended from....oh and there is no escaping genetics, I'm afraid that stink goes with you. Have a Dixie Day!

Posted by Chesterboy on April 6, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Re: “The Old Slave Mart is one of the few museums to expose America's shameful past

In addition, here is a website referencing the historical marker.…

Posted by bigwillie on April 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Re: “The Old Slave Mart is one of the few museums to expose America's shameful past

Smallwood: It seems that you did not open your eyes as a young boy in Baltimore. I grew up in a neighboring state and have seen the marker numerous times. The first was when I was a boy and we took a field trip to the Inner Harbor and historic sights in Baltimore. There is was. It was as plain as day. A sign on a major street by the Star Spangled Banner Museum that read "Baltimore Slave Trade". Why the "simple flyer announcing the slave auction" mesmerized you, I am not sure. I guess you lived in the "county" of Baltimore and missed the history that Baltimore played in the early years of this country as well as the slave trade. The view from my "rose colored glass",the differences between living in Charleston and in Baltimore is the rich tradition of family, friends and the heritages associated with them. In this area, those traditions are taught, observed, respected and recognized for the good points and the bad points. The good points are celebrated and the bad points are recognized and discussed and put on the shelf for later if needed. In the Baltimore area there are a few pockets of that. More often then not, there is little sense of tradition in regards to family and community. One can and will steal, cheat, rob or even kill his/her neighbor because they "deserve it","got what's comin'" or "it in the game" as thoughts that ingrained in generation after generation as if it were acceptable. While I am sure that your article is intended to end with compliment, it starts with a premise that is hard to believe. Futhermore, please feel free to go back home and build upon the lessons taught to you in Charleston instead of writing an obvious article in the Charleston city paper.

Posted by bigwillie on April 6, 2011 at 3:01 PM
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