If they're hybrid and they DON'T have bike racks, then the world will probably explode.
I have been intimately involved with Charleston Waterkeeper as a volunteer for over 3 years now. I have worked in the office, at events, on the water, in the classroom, and in the community - so it is with continued pride and well-versed knowledge of the organization's mission and character that I remain in support of Charleston Waterkeeper, Cyrus Buffum, the CWK staff, board of directors, and our waterways.
I will not pretend to know the details of their records but I will tell you that I have seen their dedication to the mission, I have watched my donations both of time and money benefit education, community, and scientific programs to help improve the health of our waterways. And truly - that is good enough for me, but if it is not good enough for you, which is both acceptable and understandable, I encourage you to get involved, to meet the team, to learn, for yourself, about the organization and to take in these articles and the people stomping their feet saying "look at me, look at me" with a drop of salt water.
Thank you for waiting patiently Mat for my figures. After contacting both CVB and College of Charleston, I found that I am slightly in error as figures have dropped a bit since I left the tour industry a couple of years ago. With the current figure at about $250 a day spending I'll let you do the higher math. Keep in mind, that dollars-per-tourist figure pays taxes, plus the remainder goes to local business. So, if you consider the money going into the total local economy, I think diddly-squat definitely doesn't apply.
It's disheartening to read some of these snarky comments. Cyrus Buffum is probably the hardest worker I've ever met. Sure, there's of course a ton more he can get his organization to do, but he tries, every day. Are the rest of us all so perfect? He strives to make a difference day in and day out and has a good heart. Period. To me, this sounds like an unfortunate bureaucratic issue where because of some paperwork, the IRS is making yet another small business/non-profit owner's life miserable. Keep your chin up, Cy.
Anyone who has seen them in operation: Do the new buses have bike racks?
No, she just didn't hear your question.
Miss SC USA loves Pronghorn.
It doesn't matter if it's about me or not. It's about the Foundation and what we're not Doing to get people Doing what Really Matters.
I'd invite you to join us, but that would require doing something and I'm not really up for that. Maybe you could just "like" us on Facebook.
Hate to bust your bubble, Matt, but neither this column nor my comment is about you.
Elise, it simply gets really old when every single issue involving noise or drunkenness is blamed on CofC students. I'm a really nice, tolerable person, but at this point I am really defensive because everyone seems to be banning together on this and no one is taking the side of the students, which is very unfortunate. A friend of mine who lives on Queen St and attended CofC was one of the individuals who had his car hood keyed when Harleston Village was vandalized. As upset as the homeowners were on the street, no one immediately jumped to "it was a drunk college student." They just can't be the scapegoat for everything. And trust me, I get the noise problem issues, I've lost many nights of sleep over it as well. I hope that everyone can work together on this, but also that no one forgets that CofC is a great part of the community.
Wow, elizpoore. With all respect to you, I clearly that a few 'rotten eggs spoil the bunch'. I love the kids next to me and have never had a problem with most of the rest. It's the one or two houses, multiplied by half the blocks in the area around campus, that people are complaining about.
I have the cops on speed dial. I don't call them on weekends, and I try not to be the bitch on the street.
I'm glad you like Harleston. It seems like a lovely area. A little bit of a commute for me, personally, considering I currently walk to work and my car was totaled by the last accident, but, hey.
No offense was meant. I can only go by what I've seen around me and my friends' houses. You seem like a reasonably well-adjusted twenty-something. A little quick to jump on the offensive, especially since you seized on one sentence in an embarrassingly large post, but hey, you're entitled to think of me what you want, especially since you don't have my experiences, and I haven't had yours.
"For the city’s police chief and Mayor Joe Riley, the new ordinance requiring bars to hire larger security staffs is a good start. Mullen said the measure will free up the eight officers assigned to King Street to disperse into the communities."
Who didn't see that coming?
"I don't think the average C of C attendee is here primarily for the education..."
..Are you kidding me? I'm sorry that you're upset that you are blind to the fact that it is inevitable to experience everything you're complaining about if you live in a city that is also home to a college campus. The most special and unique part of College of Charleston is that it is located in the heart of downtown Charleston. It is in the middle of a city. What do you expect? I graduated from CofC in 2010 and have lived downtown ever since. To defend all of the students that you just insulted with your comment implying that we all attended college solely to party, you're dead wrong. You're right, there are a few bad eggs, but that doesn't mean that the "average CofC attendee" isn't going to college for education. That is complete bullshit.
High school students don't work extremely hard through all of school just to get into college so that they can get drunk and throw up all over your precious hydrangeas. Work hard play hard, and I can assure you that is the motto for almost every single college, including Vandy. I grew up around Wake Forest. If you want to see some kids from an outstanding school get really fucked up and do pretty much every single thing you just explained in detail, move there. Just because it's not an ivy league school doesn't mean we applied to get hammered every night.
I lived in Radliffeborough until I graduated. At one point, there was one professor on my street, the rest college students. Do you know what he did every time there was any noise? He called the cops. Instead of whining about the loud people in the middle of the night, call the damn police. I used to do it all the time and it usually solved the problems.
Now I live in Harleston Village, on the street where all of the mentioned cars were vandalized, I might add, and you could hear a pindrop on most nights. The act of vandalism that occurred was the first I've seen in my 2 years there. I live in a historic house with 3 young college guys above me who are relatively well-behaved. So, you're exactly right, most people, including me, will say that if you have a problem, THEN MOVE. Move to a different borough, like Harleston Village or South of Broad, instead of choosing to live in the ones that house the majority of college students and stop bitching about it.
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I'm a pretty tolerant 30-something living in Elliotsborough on a block where I am one of 5 homeowners. The rest are all rental properties filled with college students, which was not the case when I moved here in 1991, or even when I moved back in 2006.
While I don't have a problem with every house on the block - the 5 kids next door are great - a few bad eggs certainly spoil the bunch. They vomit and pee on my steps and in my recycling bin, destroy every plant I've ever tried to cultivate in the tiny strip of land in front of the curb, and travel nightly past my house in herds yelling at the top of their lungs about anything that enters their sphere of consciousness.
The worst part by far, however, are the massive late-night weekday keggers. Not only are they ridiculously hard to sleep through, but morning usually brings a host of unpleasant surprises, like broken bottles littering the street and the sidewalks, smashed by departing revelers not caring about the vehicles, children, and pets that will have to pass through the next day, or just general destruction of property, especially against cars parked on the street.
In the last 3 years, my car (I don't have a driveway) has been hit while parked 5 times, always after a party, and the windows have been punched out twice. No notes were left, of course.
The worst part is that not all college students are like this.
I lived 2 blocks from the Vanderbilt football stadium in downtown Nashville's heart of student-dom for 3 years, and never had a problem. You could say it's particularly bad here because the school has limited growth because of the penninsula and a lack of dorms, but Vanderbilt is more-or less confined to the 440 loop and also has nowhere near enough housing. I would guess the lack of noise was partly because Vandy isn't a party school. I don't think the average C of C attendee is here primarily for the education...
I'm sure plenty of people will say "so you have a problem? then MOVE!" and yeah, that's what I'm doing - back to Nashville next month. Of course, I got my house at 1989 rates, and that is not an option for everyone in this still slightly down housing market, especially as the park behind my block is currently under development to be turned into yet more college-friendly housing.
As a native lowcountry-ian (and as somebody who grew up a stone's throw from Myrtle Beach) it's sad to be leaving, and to be seeing one of the last genuine lower/middle-class neighborhoods downtown disappearing. It's not all the students, of course, but they certainly don't help.
You know i've always wanted an antique bird bathroom for myself.
@Saildude and H2Oavenger - I couldn't agree more. I've often wondered what Waterkeeper actually DOES besides raise a bunch of money and throw parties for Charleston's socialites. The swanky fundraisers and galas that Waterkeeper throws in this town seem to be catered towards community members who care more about the image of giving and contributing than donating their own time or manpower. I'm not saying this doesn't have its place in the world of non-profit fundraising, I just wonder sometimes what true effects this organization is having toward the ultimate goal of clean and safe waterways for the Lowcountry.
I would love to be wrong about this, but I've yet to see or hear otherwise. Cyrus, you are young and hip...I'm sure you have read all these comments as well...what say you to Saildude and H2Oavenger's claims?
Clarkie, your comment about the "sodomite pride parade" got me tuh thinkin.
Q. What parade command does the troupe in the sodomite parade have a hard time executing?
A. Close the rear.
Funny. When these guy's presented this project to the neighborhood association they claimed to want to be a 'neighborhood restaurant' with a 'small bar' and not go after the 'college drinking crowd'. It was also agreed that the St. Philip St. entrance would be an emergency exit and not be used as an entrance to keep noise down out of respect for the nearby homes. A bar adjacent to & surrounded by residences, no off-street parking, and open 'til 2 am...Bad precedent for any neighborhood. If one used the same arguments neighbors recently expressed about Burbage's which killed that deal, the double standard in Charleston is glaring. Beer & sandwiches 'til 7 pm 6 days a week is bad(South of Broad) but drinking 7 days a week til 2 am is OK(Elliotborough). The City made an effort to keep establishments(including this one) from staying open past 11 by changing the Zoning at the request of residents but it was killed by City Council fearing litigation.
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