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Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Has anyone applied any science at all to the noise argument? Sounds to me (excuse the pun) that too many subjective arguments are being bandied around regardless of the merits of the case.

Posted by Chris Leigh-Jones on April 27, 2017 at 1:28 PM

Re: “The Exposure Myth

When my wife and I came to Charleston we were approached by a growing stream of charities, all with their angle and message. We supported very many, Spoleto included but to be honest, after 5 years I'm a little jaded from the experience and in the instance of Spoleto it really was a one-way street. You see a gushing approach once per year and nothing in between or are made to feel inadequate for saying politely no. I'd like to see some rationalization and concentration on ones that deliver real value to hard pushed sections of our community or work for change. Chris Leigh-Jones, LS Group, 95 Broad St.

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Posted by Chris Leigh-Jones on April 27, 2017 at 1:12 PM

Re: “The Exposure Myth

I went bankrupt under that principal- exposure... the mortgage company called- they asked if I was going to pay.. I replied, I'm working for exposure.
NEVER AGAIN.. it sends a really bad message to those of us who, as authors, artists- whatever- that we are not worthy of your attention, but your pocket certainly fattened- and not by the Hoppin' John at New Year's Eve.

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Posted by Warren Bobrow on April 27, 2017 at 10:39 AM

Re: “It was the best of, it was the worst of

Oh, Ms. Parks, your opinion pieces are as refreshing as a shot of hemlock with a side of arsenic on toast points.

"Best of" issues are annual mainstay of city papers nationwide. They're not some corporate conspiracy to gentrify smaller, and typically better, local offerings but solely popularity polls. Often ballot stuffed and just a way for city papers to increase their ad revenue for a specific week. Frankly you should applaud CCP's efforts to include their own editor recommendations, which I found worthwhile. Besides don't you have better things to write about like Trump's similarity to Hitler or the CIS normal patriarchal hegemony?

One thing you can be assured of when it comes to your writing, you'll never have to worry about, appearing in anything "best of"

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on April 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

It's called penance. Sin against the city planning board and play the price. Some latitude should be given that the owners took an ugly office building and turned it into an equally ugly looking hotel (externally) with a great bar.

That being said, there isn't a house or apartment closer than a city block away (on one side) and five stories below this rooftop location. Compared to equal venues like the Bohemian, the Watch, Stars, The Pavilion, the Vendue and even Revelry Brewing, this place is practically soundproof.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on April 27, 2017 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Culinary Institute of Charleston looks to high schoolers to increase declining enrollment

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Posted by Nelson Dickson on April 27, 2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Ron,I thought that was "your" head. OH WELL!!!

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Posted by dun'kin Duncan on April 27, 2017 at 7:22 AM

Re: “Jack Black's new movie The D-Train is tasteless and unfunny

I agree 100% with this article. Its so upsetting to see Jack Black ruin his career with this movie. I was a very big Jack Black fan and now im just angry after watching this. Screw angry, im pissed. Everything about this movie sucked.

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Posted by Jess Daniels on April 27, 2017 at 5:50 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

The neighborhood is being petty the Dewberry bar is literally five floors above the nearest house so what type of noise are we actually complaining about. If it's about the permitting process that's fine but admit it.

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Posted by brandon johnson on April 27, 2017 at 3:07 AM

Re: “Confessions of a Southern Charm Newbie: Growing Old, Not Better

Sorry, but Whitney totally creeps me out. He's a closet Dahmer or Bundy for sure, with his "charming" smile, slightly perturbing affect, and his way-to-close relationship with Ms. Pat. What I don't get, is how the seemingly level-headed Cam thinks he's the bees knees...WTF?! He's like the slimy older brother of a friend, that someone like her, should watch out for...

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Posted by Jennifer King on April 27, 2017 at 12:35 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

There are a lot of tragedies in Charleston, but this is not one of them. Hard to believe Mr Green is actually an attorney. Seriously Green has little respect for the regulations and permitting process that the Dewberry ignored. I guess they thought it would be easier to ask forgiveness rather than permission.

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Posted by RASPUTIY on April 26, 2017 at 9:01 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

5 Star??? Ummm, I don't think so......but correct me if I'm wrong. It definitely doesn't appear 5 star to me after visiting and careful consideration.

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Posted by DaleS on April 26, 2017 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

What's the saying..."lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

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Posted by Truman Smith on April 26, 2017 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Photographer Jared Bramblett puts Charleston's rising tide problem into stark relief

king tide is not a local colloquial term. it comes from down undah! Auscrailya! please use local nomenclature for local stories. Spring tide. Thank you!

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Posted by John Charleston on April 26, 2017 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Soooooooooo many bars, including rooftop bars. Do we need yet another choice? Perhaps we should consolidate every establishment in town (by making Charleston one huuuuuuuuuge mixed-use complex?) and have one massive, well-lit, pop-music blasting roof-top bar. Screw the residents! Why should anything in Charleston be about the residents? Profits above everything (pun intended).

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Posted by Kimberly Hogan Hambric on April 26, 2017 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Confessions of a Southern Charm Newbie: Growing Old, Not Better

I am laughing out loud. I must see whitney, who I called Whitley idea why,that is also funny to me, EATING AN UNPEELED BANANA!! Awesome!

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Posted by Beth Wilson on April 26, 2017 at 3:22 PM

Re: “The Exposure Myth

I would go further than the article and say that charitable organizations simply should not hold art auctions at all, even IF they give something to the artist in return.

The problem with art auctions is that they tend to bring prices that are far lower than the actual value of the work they are selling. That devalues art. It devalues the art of the artist giving it and it devalues the the value of art in general when people see things sell too cheaply.

AND, the great irony of these charitable events is that they are often attended by wealthier patrons. Patrons who actually have the means to purchase the art at full retail price should they so choose. By purchasing at a discount, they are getting a benefit that the producing artist doesn't get at all.

Artists and galleries just need to learn to say "NO".

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Posted by David Bjurstrom on April 26, 2017 at 3:16 PM

Re: “PHOTOS: Day One of inaugural High Water Festival

Congrats man you win. You are making a huge differance in the world sitting behind your computer at starbucks drinking your chai tea being a social justice warrior by making a mountain out of a molehill. Keep on spitting out facts that had nothing to do with the actual festival itself. You're the real hero. Not sure how you start this entire argument still when like I said before there were black artists and guests at the festival. Keep on keepin on.

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Posted by Ben Klepacki on April 26, 2017 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Dwayne! Good to see ya! It's been a while. I was worried you had finally put your head so far up your ass you suffocated. Alright, let's do this.

"Believe me, I get it."

I am confident that has never been the case.

"The process is set up a certain way for multiple reasons, chief among them to give proper notice to area residents of what will be built next to them."

But when those residents receive proper notice of what is going to be built next to them and voice their concerns, you are opposed to it. Glad you have not lost the ability to argue against yourself in your own columns.

I agree it's not unreasonable to expect a fair amount of noise living in a downtown area. It's one of the costs of convenience. But at best the actions of the developer were incompetent and at worst completely shady.

So, your continued defense of the developer in light of this is extremely tone deaf. Then again, with your head in your ass, I imagine it's hard to hear.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 26, 2017 at 2:14 PM

Re: “The Exposure Myth

Great article and very considered look at a complex situation. Sorry if this comment is longer than actual article just an important topic to me personally. As Mark Sloan mentions in the article, this is conversation that has been going on among artists and gallerists for years. The The Southern's guidelines for non-profits is a great suggestion. I agree with those bullets. To non-profits, be flexible, an artist can always choose to give back their cut if they really have deep commitment to the organization.

I am certainly not trying to defend art auctions or make suggestions to improve them, this article does an excellent job of the latter. The one issue I would like to illuminate though is this isnt then exclusive purview of Visual artists. Graphic designers, developers, accountants, lawyers and many other trades are also approached for pro bono work with an exposure carrot dangled out there (at least for design). Sure that can happen but don't promise it. Charitable decisions should be based on the organization's mission and your commitment to it. It happens with all sorts of services and asks as Angel Passailaigue Postell pointed out in her F&B focused piece last month.

Artists and Gallerists must adopt their own giving guidelines and stick by them. Figure out what organizations matter to you, align with your heart and how much you are willing to help. For certain organizations you might be happy to donate everything and others you might have a % that you are not willing to waiver on and, obviously be willing to say no. Many of us face that same decision on a monthly basis.

Just to clarify one point in the article, the lack of tax exemption is in no way exclusive to artists. People who volunteer their time and expertise believe they have something valuable to offer. So, you may find it distressing that your services, expert though they may be, are worth a tax deduction of precisely zero. This rule is not unique to volunteer work; in fact, it is consistent with other tax laws. With only rare exceptions, the general rule is that you must spend cold, hard cash or give away stuff before you may claim a deduction. That applies to design, legal work, volunteer accounting and pretty much any Service provided. I would offer that is a flaw of the tax system and not a cultural devaluation of art (an excellent conversation for another beer).

Similarly, I would contend that the devaluation of an artists work is not completely cut and dry. The implication and allure of the charity auction is to get a deal and support an organization. If I got a $100 gift certificate for a restaurant for $70, I wouldnt feel empowered to walk in a month later and expect to pay %70 of my bill. That is why the articles suggestion of a minimum and estimated value are very important and should be adopted.

Finally, and if youve made this far, FINALLY, I thought one of the important issues was tucked into the final paragraphs of the article; the increasing economic pressure squeezing young and emerging artists right off of this skinny peninsula. This is an article unto itself and just one of the layers of the complex phyllo dough of gentrification swirling around us.

I did want to highlight that combatting this is the core mission of Redux Contemporary Art Center. We opened our new doors down the street just last night. We now have an larger facility that offers an even greater amount of subsidized studio space for those who face the economic hurdles of creating art in this city. Having living breathing art making here is an integral facet in helping Charleston maintain its diversity and appeal as a living breathing community versus a tourist destination to check off a list.

If you care about this, or hell if you dont, please consider becoming a member, donating, support us and sate your curiosity by coming to the opening events currently being planned. (will link below)

Again, great article and thanks Charleston City Paper for highlighting this issue.

"The most important thing for the creation of art is cheap rent." ~ Charles Bukowski

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Posted by Buff Ross on April 26, 2017 at 1:53 PM
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