TROLLSLAYER writes, "No, other troll who appears from nowhere, I did not say in "Charelston".
That is a GLOBAL rate of increase."
The data for the global rate of sea level rise as kept by Colorado University's Sea Level Research Group shows the same phenomenon as Charleston's tide gauge. A link to the Raw data found here
is easily analyzed using Excel's slope function:
1992.9595 to 2003.8187 3.5 mm/yr
2003.8459 to 2014.1893 2.9 mm/yr
The rate of sea level rise over the last 21 years according to the satellite data does not show an increase.
Steve Case - Milwaukee, WI
Oh hell, let's really call Mt Plenty what it really is - one giant DUI Checkpoint! Ya'll live in Checkpoint SC 29464. With something like 475+DUI arrests last year, I don't know if I am safer on Coleman Blvd or in precarious danger every time I pass Red's
I would have no problem with this if it were true. However, the reasoning here seems highly sketchy. First off, just because this slang definition existed does not at all mean that this is what the original namer had in mind when he chose the name. He could have been thinking of another place with that name (a pattern with many place names in America; see George Stewart's book Names on the Land), or he could have named it for a hill (possible though unlikely, here in the lowcountry) he found pleasant in the area. Any number of other possibilities might have been the case. Even if the name had that meaning then, if that's not what the namer had in mind, then it's fallacious to say that this is what the name refers to.
Secondly, the sources given for this are highly suspect. One of them is an Internet forum, and I could be wrong, but I doubt most historians would consider that a citable source. The only one of these sites I consider valid is the slang dictionary. However, even though it attests to the meaning of the phrase, it does not show that this meaning is in any way related to the Charleston area town.
CIAC - I get it. Been there, done that. Bikes in The Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, etc are much easier than cars and I enjoyed it a lot.
But when much of the USA's entire residential living arrangements (not just Mt P!) is the aforementioned quarter, third and half-acre lots...what ya gonna do? Europeans and Asian live in and raise families in flats/apartments/townhouses/etc - all dense and more easily served by public transport and concentrated services (with little or no parking). Americans want back and front yards, mostly (outside of a few urban areas).
Changing the way Americans live seems unlikely. Adding in bike infrastructure (specific lanes, traffic lights, etc) is more likely. When riding a bike is safer and more convenient, more people will start to do it.
The other big difference is that in a bunch of major cities where it is convenient to ride a bike around it is not heat stroke hot for half the year.
Exactly why I live in Mt. Pleasant, a coastal town.
Cid95, I ride a bike for transportation in NYC when I am up there. It is actually much faster than any public transport to get to midtown from my place on Mercer. In Toronto - no car needed ever! Most European cities and towns - the same. Mt. P however, has been too poorly planned out and is too sprawling to ride a bike from home to work or vice versa. Public transport? Huh? That Boulevard is a gleaming example of major political dumbassery. "They will ride bikes" they said. To where? Work and back? Downtown? In the summer heat and rain? Not those hipsters, no way, not ever, not gonna happen. They are weekend riders, if at all. They best have a high paying job to afford the rents on those tiny closets. Does high density housing work - absolutely. Just not here in sprawl suburbia. All I see when I look at the Boulevard is the 66.5 million that Beach walked away with - sort of like Homer with the doughnuts except I see dollar signs. Mad props to Beach for a bidnezz bamboozle of major proportion and a large DOH to the politicians of Mt. P. who allowed it to happen.
Amen.... Los Super Saturn. Mat C. hahahah, ya think? One can never have enough restaurants, bars, high density apartment complexes and office space. Mt. P did diddly for the Shrimp/Fish fleet. A small stipend each year for showing up at the blessing of the fleet. The blessing should now take under 3 minutes for the few remaining boats or they can just skip it all together.
Yep, I agree CIAC. Mayor Quimby got suckered.
I would love it if Mt P were less car-oriented. I lived in a big city outside the US for several years and didn't own a car. Trains, buses, taxis could easily get me where I wanted to go and I also had groceries, restaurants, bars and services within a 15 minute walk from my apartment.
The root cause in much of America is that our residential situation is low-density. Without density (vertical living), you can't get critical mass for efficient transport or concentration of services WITHOUT accompanying big parking lots.
So, even a couple thousand people living right on Coleman and 58,000 people living on 1/4, 1/3 and 1/2 acre lots elsewhere in the town still equals big parking lots and lots of cars.
I'm honored that people somehow expect Mt Pleasant to be all things to all men. It's not, and it never has been (though it's obviously a coastal town). Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.
Sea Grant - the name itself is telling. No sea-level rise no grant. No climate change no grant. You really think they're unbiased. At least they admit there's sinking land, I will give them credit for that.
Any discussion of climate change immediately gets hijacked and turned into a boring debate over whether it's real or not. What's sad about this is that people never get around to talking about the practical effects of climate change. When the effects really start to hit us, people will panic. They'll go bat**** crazy, even or perhaps especially the deniers, because they never planned ahead or even envisioned the future. The panic will be far worse than the actual changes (even though the changes will be drastic and disruptive). I imagine collapsed economies, massive migrations, etc. Basically the Dust Bowl/Great Depression on a bigger scale.
What's really sad is that the reality of climate change is terrible, but not the end of the world for Charleston. The location for Charleston was chosen for its high ground, meant to repel invaders and Mother Nature. Even with a 6-foot rise in sea level, most of downtown Charleston will be above water. Storm surges will be awful, but presumably Charleston will have a dike system by then. Obviously those mansions on Kiawah won't be doing so well, but part of Kiawah will still above water, enough for boaters to go out and look at the ruins of the houses at low tide.
It's important to find realistic, practical information about sea level rise, like this map provides. Another good, very non-hysterical article was put out by the S.C. Sea Grant Consortium:
"Unfortunately, that rate [in Charelston] itself is increasing."
No, other troll who appears from nowhere, I did not say in "Charelston".
That is a GLOBAL rate of increase.
Science Daily? You trying out for comedy?
Note if you will, Brew, that we have another of those posters who appear out of nowhere and post on one subject only.
Probably trolls the internet looking for a few key words than tries to enlighten us with his anti-science nonsense.
Wonder who pays him to do that?
Sure, we'll call up our Gaza bureau and have them get right on it.
Regarding saving Shem Creek...
"Funny, for all the talk in the last few years of doing something for those folks, nothing much was done."
Something was done alright, the Town bought a small piece of the marsh (for a ridiculously high price) and built a Shrimp Boat museum (because that is where they are all headed), slapped up a few boardwalks (for tourists and bar drunks to wander about on), added a few more parking spaces (to what is already a giant unpaved lot) then called the whole thing a "park".
This is garbage, just meant to sell us stuff. Part of the life of Charleston is that any day now a hurricane can swallow it up.
What about Palestine? Why does this paper avoid it? Is it because of all those brainwashed pro Israeli Charleston people who think its OK to murder everyone because of their Bible?
Excuse me tanach. Whatever. This paper needs to focus on the protest that occurred to be legit.
Glad to see the tired old arguments from the few that want to make this a left versus right thing. That isn't how scientific research works.
Some recent studies:
Another even bigger issue related to climate change (much more serious than rising seas):
You will see a lot of "if" and "may" used in those studies. The reason for that, is because scientists don't just discover a bit of evidence and jump to conclusions. Unlike you whores for your political party, good scientists are always open to changing their conclusions based on new evidence. Here is some proof of that:
The fact that so many scientists are finding so many links to negative human effects on the environment, should be enough for any logical person to understand why doing nothing isn't really a good plan.
I don't know, I was told there was an actual plane that nearly crashed on 526 Tuesday afternoon.
But nothing in the news about it.
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