Congrats man you win. You are making a huge differance in the world sitting behind your computer at starbucks drinking your chai tea being a social justice warrior by making a mountain out of a molehill. Keep on spitting out facts that had nothing to do with the actual festival itself. You're the real hero. Not sure how you start this entire argument still when like I said before there were black artists and guests at the festival. Keep on keepin on.
Are you insinuating that my being white gives me some kind of mystical allegiance to white people?
Your second declaration sounds a bit like the "I have a Black friend, so I'm not racist" argument, so I'll rephrase my initial comment:
You travel to a car show in Charleston which advertises the very best local collection of all vehicle makes and models the city has to offer. You get there and discover that it's 98% Fords (they're SO inconsistent, right?), which upsets you because Charleston has so much more to offer than just Ford.
The next day you read an article hailing the car show as a diverse mix of all of the cars that make Charleston so great, and wow, what success it was! So you write the paper, wondering how anyone could call a car show made up of 98% Fords "diverse". You even went to social media and COUNTED the other makes and models just to make sure you weren't upset about nothing.
Others write in to respond to your comments, chiding your position by saying things like "it wasn't all Fords, I saw a couple of Toyotas, and the security guard had a Jeep", or "you don't live in Charleston, so how can you have an opinion?". Would those [flimsy] arguments hold water in that situation? By that argument, you don't get to have an opinion on 9/11 because you either don't (or don't anymore) live in New York City.
Maybe now you can understand the point I'm driving: CHARLESTON, ITS EVENTS, BUSINESSES, REAL ESTATE, POLITICS, ETC. and RACIAL ISSUES
ARE INEXORABLE. Why? Because it (and our nation) was BUILT on the idea that all humans are not created equal. WHITE PEOPLE DID THIS. So many, in fact, that EVERY white person born since then has been in some way indoctrinated to racism, so much so that sometimes we can't even see that we're being racist. From that blindness comes the notion that anything WE white people do (I haven't forgotten that I'm white yet) hasn't anything to do with racism at all. You may (or may not be) surprised to know just how many of those racist thoughts white people have every day, no matter how vestigial they may be. I can assure you that our Black neighbors notice it every time, for it is the jailed who learns to read the jailer.
We HAVE to make better efforts to live together, and to love each other, and to include each other. This means making sure that ALL know they're welcome, and that they can afford to exist/attend in the first place.
PS- your deep-seated definition of racism seems to differ from its actual one:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
You are white. Were you at the festival? Clearly you were not because if you were you would know that there were black people attending and there were black artists. Get a grip just because you have deep seeded racist thoughts doesnt mean you need to turn things that clearly arent racial issues into them.
Donna, due to a publishing error on the CP site, I double submitted my last response by accident, which is worth knowing due to the inflammatory nature of my post.
That said, isn't it absolutely weird that a festival which brought so many people together was nearly devoid of any bodies other than white ones? In a city so recently rocked by the hateful murder of Black citizens, isn't it bonkers that it's back to its business of gentrification and marginalization? Isn't it strange that so many white neighbors, once standing in solidarity with their Black neighbors on that bridge, are back to leaving racist commentary on their neighborhood Facebook pages? Isn't it screwed up that white people throw extravagant parties and even get married on the plantations where so many Black women, men, and children lost their lives -- and not simply "lost", but enslaved, raped, tortured, and murdered? Isn't it messed up that Black people are trustworthy enough to hire as janitors, servers, chefs, entertainment, and security guards for these events, but they're not trustworthy enough to live next door to? Isn't it horrible that the city will always choose uprooting Black citizens from their homes for pennies on the dollar over displacing white citizens to build whatever new and exclusive restaurant or hotel or bridge? Isn't it remarkable how many Black faces aren't surrounding you at so many bars and restaurants in Charleston? By your rationale, maybe they don't like nights out. But maybe, just maybe it's because they're simply not invited. Not marketed to, not asked for their opinions. Dissuaded, impeded, and in purgatory for being alive. Isn't it interesting that almost everything in our white culture (except for racism, mind you) is appropriated from Black culture? Popular music, dance, the slang words in our conversations and gang signs thrown up next to the duck faces in our photos...isn't it ridiculous that we can assimilate all of it and it makes us cool, but we can't accept the tastemakers who invented it?
Sounds like it's us, the white people, who need to get a grip -- or, better yet, loosen the grip we've been using to choke out our fellow and equal humans.
Here's an idea: remember how buses were helping many women get to the march who couldn't have afforded a flight, etc.? Maybe try that with the next festival -- can't afford $100 a person? That's okay, we've got you, friend. Maybe post flyers in all neighborhoods, ones which don't use terms like "exclusive beverage offerings" (barf), but say things like "beer" or "food", and get in touch with their leaders to let them know that all are to be included and invited.
Until that day, "Charleston Strong" is just another whited-out message.
It has nothing to do with black or white. It is music!
If you want to go there... there are many things I don't hear about, but don't consider it a racial issue. You are the one trying to make a big deal about something that is not racial at all. Again, get a grip!!!
Congratulations on contributing your white privileged response, Donna.
If you'd like to point out just how it was marketed to the entire community, I'd welcome an actual, well-thought out rebuttal.
What? Maybe it is not their choice of music! Everyone was welcome to the High-water festival. Get over it!
I counted four Black people in over 130 photos on the HWF Instagram page. So, I checked the tags. Nope. I checked the event's advertisements. Anything about including them? Nope. And so few Black/POC bands?
Really, Charleston? Really?
Black people INVENTED the music the white bands are all playing! They are an integral part of Charleston's past, present, and (hopefully) future culture. They've suffered endless hatred, violence, and discrimination since the day their ancestors were put in chains.
Charleston: HOW MANY MORE ATROCITIES AGAINST YOUR FOUNDING NEIGHBORS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE YOU START TAILORING EVENTS TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY?! Do y'all really need another church shooting before you're ACTUALLY "Charleston Strong"? Have y'all forgotten about standing thousands strong in solidarity with your Black sisters and brothers after the AME massacre on a bridge named after a rich, gentrifying snob? Do y'all remember saying 'never again'?
How does anyone hold a festival after something like that -- let alone, the hundreds of years of violence and oppression against Black people -- AND NOT INCLUDE THEM?!
Because of its history of violence and oppression of our Black sisters and brothers, its white residents should stop using words like "exclusive" when marketing these events. From their inception, ideas should create just as much space for Black faces as they do for white ones (I'll capitalize 'white' when we deserve it), especially when it's held in the next to-be-gentrified corridor of the area.
I'm not calling it's organizers and marketers racists -- I'm calling them thoughtless, and thoughtlessness breeds the "how could this have happeneds" of the world.
If you're white, it's your responsibility to police your thoughts, speech, language, and actions for privilege, and to FIX IT. If you're white, you've been racist. Even if you don't don a sheet or burn crosses or terrorize or kill Black people, you've done it. We're white, and because we're white, we've all done it. I have.
However, "I didn't mean it THAT way" isn't an excuse. It's a slap in the already mercilessly beaten face of Black humanity. Maybe if we whites TRY to include our Black and POC sisters and brothers -- our NEIGHBORS, upon whose backs and souls this entire country has been built -- from the beginning, we'll actually begin to change it.
Great music. Criminally over-priced amenities.
I think she said "just a sliver of the talent" found in Charleston... unless there be snakes here.
An absolutely amazing festival. My hat off to everyone that organized.
I'm geeking out!
This guy is something else. True gift to the world
Definitely should have included Waccamaw Getaway Fest in Conway SC. Randall Bramblett, Ben Miller band, and groove fetish headlining!
8/8 great festivals.
Where is the info on camping?......amenities, price, parking lot or under trees?
Doctor John...Mac Rebenek...47 or more years of seriously good stuff...Doctor John and the Night Trippers...All of you punks should go and see this man....
Even though Nik Pappas taught me much about blues guitar and musicianship, I couldn't have written a more beautiful tribute, Andy. Believe it or not, I also learned a lot from you, as well, during that period. I loved Nik, as I love you, my brother. I hope we get to play some music and remember Nature Boy together, someday soon.
Who was opening act for Loretta Lynn?
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