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Posted by Fish Pimp on May 21, 2015 at 10:17 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

I don't agree with Sanders on many things, though we do agree on some things.

However, I love that he is in the Senate with an "I" next to his name. We're the world's oldest democracy (republic, actually, but you know what I mean) and yet we only have two parties and they are both mostly the same.

And yet, as this article states, one must be a D or an R to win national elections.

Obama won because he was anointed by the D machine. He followed orders, toed the line and got his reward. The same with all presidents in the last several decades. Sanders wouldn't do that just like Ron Paul wouldn't get the blessing of the R party.

Kang or Kodos? See, you have a choice! Use it America, vote! FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!

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Posted by Cid95 on May 21, 2015 at 3:46 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

"Pronghorn, which planet do you live on?"

There's no reason for you to be galactically judgmental. Don't resort to the ad hominem.

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Posted by Pronghorn on May 21, 2015 at 7:20 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

"Psst. Barack Obama was not a no name. He was a Democratic star from the moment he gave his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. He was also young, handsome, poised, confident, and, yes, black." -chrishaire

First of all, Hillary is none of those things, either. And secondly, Obama was a first term Senator with 1 speech to his name. He was a nobody. It wasn't until Oprah came to Columbia that anyone in SC took him seriously.

Hillary has no chance to win a national election. Her unfavorables are as high as her favorables. We better hope that Bernie can pull a Barack on the coronation of Hillary. I love me some Bernie.

Aside from the dynasty factor, her vote for war in Iraq, her love of Wall Street, and her history of lies, the most damning fact about Hillary is that she treats her service people poorly. She's a diva. I would stay home if Hillary ran against the devil. (Which appears likely).

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Posted by Fish Pimp on May 20, 2015 at 6:24 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

The sad fact is that Bernie Sanders is probably better for the US than any other candidate, but falls victim to the vacuum of corporate dollars afforded other candidates.

The US has legalized corporate bribery, and we are now reaping the benefits.

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Posted by leemajors on May 20, 2015 at 4:07 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Ever hear of a self fulfilling prophesy? If you support Bernie, it does no one any good to go around telling people it's impossible for him to win. It's not impossible.

This sort of negative thinking is exactly what keeps the establishment in power.

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Posted by Edward Ellsworth on May 20, 2015 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

"H. Clinton is going to win.... I think Bernie Sanders is the best person to give money for the time being. He'll just push her to the left, and get her to make statements on the record."
Pronghorn, which planet do you live on? What possible relation will there be between statements Hillary makes on the record and actions she takes?

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Posted by ImFromHere on May 20, 2015 at 3:45 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Lyndon Johnsons Plantation Politics at its best to secure votes from the dumb downed masses in order to keep them dumb down and dependent.

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Posted by truthrus on May 20, 2015 at 2:08 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

"Hillary's not ordained by God."

No, she's most certainly not, but she IS going to win.

Like Ron said, she'll just be another "corporatist hack"; donate to Bernie to give him a bigger voice so that she'll be less of one. That's the answer.

I strongly, strongly wish that he could win. Unfortunately, we live in a country that prioritizes corporations and gives them the equivalence of personhood – replete with free speech.

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Posted by Pronghorn on May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Garbage like this is the reason voter turn out hasn't cracked 60% since the 60's. Hillary's is not ordained by God. This isn't a monarchy. Bernie CAN win.

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Posted by Edward Ellsworth on May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

"Declaring that you know the future that yet remains 2 years away is irresponsible journalism."

Thanks for reminding everyone we still have two years left of this horseshit.

MatCat is right. Barack Obama, in any other timeline, is a moderate Republican. He only seems liberal compared to the rest of the paintchip-eating morons he ran against and the perpetually noisy right-wing outrage machine which dominates our media and culture.

Bernie Sanders is not going to win. I wish he would, but he's not going to. At best we're going to get another moderate corporatist hack who has the sole virtue of believing that maybe sometimes human beings shouldn't be treated like shit just because they are black or gay or poor or female or non-Christian. But she'll still make sure Wall Street and the war machine get theirs, and she will sell out all of our futures to do so. Again, that's the best case scenario.

This article talks about moving the conversation back to the left. Fuck, I'd be amazed if it could even move back to the center.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on May 20, 2015 at 11:59 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Man, I fucking love Bernie Sanders. We could really use someone like him to restore sanity to Washington. Too few and far between though.

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Posted by leemajors on May 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

First of all, I agree with most of what you said, Matastrophe.

Secondly, H. Clinton is going to win. This is a stone-cold fact. Having said that, if you're a liberal, then I think Bernie Sanders is the best person to give money for the time being. He'll just push her to the left, and get her to make statements on the record.

Bernie's the man.

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Posted by Pronghorn on May 20, 2015 at 10:55 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

These Bernie bots remind me a lot of the Lyndon LaRouche cultists that I saw repeatedly in Boston during 2004.

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Posted by chrishaire on May 20, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Psst. Barack Obama was not a no name. He was a Democratic star from the moment he gave his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. He was also young, handsome, poised, confident, and, yes, black.

Sanders is old, cranky, and a socialist from Vermont. Nuff said.

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Posted by chrishaire on May 20, 2015 at 10:00 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

You are a fool. Negative, negative, negative. Every article says similar language as your opening sentence and title. Why is it that he is the king of social media? Why is it that every day dozens of new articles are posted on Bernie? Thank you for writing about him, but you are irrelevant. Out with the fools and in with the Bernie.

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Posted by Nicole 1 on May 20, 2015 at 9:52 AM

Re: “Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance, but we need him in the race

Stop! Stop soft-balling in statements like, "Bernie Sanders doesn't have a chance." Have you lived in America for more than 6 years? The last person to become president was a from-out-of-nowhere nobody who no one ever even heard of with a funny name. Barrack Obama became president of the United States despite all odds and likelihoods. Declaring that you know the future that yet remains 2 years away is irresponsible journalism.

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Posted by jamerkel on May 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM

Re: “The media, elected officials unite with big business to oppose unions

I'm pleased to have elected officials on the side of the businesses that provide jobs for the people.

Posted by arty on May 18, 2015 at 3:27 PM

Re: “The media, elected officials unite with big business to oppose unions

"Sounds much like the former Dow 30 now mostly defunct company I used to work for.
Except even the engineers didn't get paid $30/ hr., only the parasitical and disastrous management."

Yes, and there is a lot of embellishing going on when talking about what the UAW employees make. This article lays out the real facts.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-work…

This is an important note at the end:
"A final note on all this: Labor costs only account for about 10 percent of the cost of producing a vehicle. And it’s not the cost of American cars that people complain about; they’re already often thousands of dollars less than their Japanese counterparts. Whatever changes may be made in the carmakers’ labor agreements, we’re convinced, and the recent hearings show, that there are much bigger problems in Detroit."

Posted by brewengineer on May 18, 2015 at 2:31 PM

Re: “The media, elected officials unite with big business to oppose unions

Sounds much like the former Dow 30 now mostly defunct company I used to work for.
Except even the engineers didn't get paid $30/ hr., only the parasitical and disastrous management.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on May 18, 2015 at 9:52 AM
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