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Comment Archives: Stories: Music+Clubs

Re: “After four decades, rock 'n' roll badass Lita Ford stays true to her craft

Put another dime in the jukebox, baby!

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Posted by mat catastrophe on April 21, 2016 at 8:54 AM

Re: “Charleston's first karaoke cab has arrived

I WANT TO BEAT THIS NEW GENERATION TO DEATH

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Posted by Tim J. Conheady on April 18, 2016 at 3:07 PM

Re: “What to expect this weekend at Southern Ground

I could not be more excited for Tedeschi Trucks Band!!!

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Posted by a long lost charlestonian/cofc grad on April 15, 2016 at 12:07 AM

Re: “Gregg Allman returns to the road after the demise of the Allman Brothers Band

Should be great. I love the Music Hall.

Warren and Gov't Mule dominated it for two nights last year. Crazy shows.

Posted by Pronghorn on April 13, 2016 at 11:55 AM

Re: “Gregg Allman returns to the road after the demise of the Allman Brothers Band

The Midnight Rider himself - one the few remaining all time great musicians left in this world!

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Posted by The Super Saturn on April 13, 2016 at 11:14 AM
Posted by Cathy Patry on April 12, 2016 at 7:12 PM

Re: “Some of the Southeast's best metal acts come together for the inaugural Lowcountry Death Fest

There is a local band from Columbia, "VENITALY". They have played live on USC radio and currently have a demo CD with 2 songs. You can listen to them on facebook. "United We Die" and "Redneck Saturday Night". Is it possible to get these guys on the bill? Or who do i need to get intouch with to see if this is possible. Thank you. Rockincat74@gmail.com

Posted by Cathy Patry on April 12, 2016 at 6:58 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

This is a great way to reduce the number of people who come to your shows & lose exposure by alienating fans or potential fans who can't afford a higher cover charge, and also potentially harm the business that the show is in. Not only are less people going to come in and buy something, but people will buy less drinks/food if they have to pay more to get in.

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Posted by Alexandra Scott on April 11, 2016 at 3:03 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

As one who spent about thirty years owning music clubs in Charleston and Columbia, it is really simple...bands should get paid what they are worth to the customers who attend. That is to say, the number of people who pay at the door because the band attracts them! How about this...club pays for house sound gear, band brings its stage gear, and if a house sound engineer is employed that cost is split between band and house. Now ALL door $$ minus the door tax goes to the band. Please don't talk to me about your road expenses...promise you they are offset by in-house club expenses...door guys, coolers, etc. Now it is up to you to figure out where you can play and make $$.

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Posted by Larry Walker on April 11, 2016 at 10:26 AM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Where in the world do you play that only charges $5 for 3 acts (including a National band)?? Really. I need to know. So I can avoid that venue. We play ALONE (no opener... no "follow-up") for a $5 cover on a weeknight. And paying for the house sound, security, and door person on top of that??? You've got to be kidding me. Either you're playing venues that pay shyte or you have too much of your own "staff", or you're getting screwed. We play for a $5 cover on a weeknight... alone. No opener. No follow-up. We handle our own sound and the "security" and "door person" is the bar's responsibility. We don't pay them, the venue does.... because they work for them.

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Posted by Kim Phoenix Carrasco on April 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

I forgot to add the overzealous DUI police state and the total smoking ban virtually killed the live music scene 20 years ago. Yeah, those are both controversial issues but it cut people going out to clubs in half. Just a fact.

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Posted by Joesockit on April 9, 2016 at 6:28 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Just visited Charleston. I play upstate NY. Bands get $250-$500 here if you're good. I was surprised that the night I was at the Pour house the inside band had a $25 cover..WOW! they weren't a national act and played a bunch of covers. That never happens up here. What the bar owners do up here is not charge a cover and up the drink prices $0.50 to $1.00 and that pays the band. Many people don't even notice. With a hot spot or a well known local band you can get away with $5.00 cover but thats it. And yes, I was playing for the same money 20 years ago. You play music because you want to, not to make money. Those days are unfortunately over. The musicians today are generally way better than 30 years ago although not necessarily as creative. You can make a studio quality album in your basement so there is much more music to choose from today. And yes the internet has made album sales pretty much a dead issue. The world changed.

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Posted by Joesockit on April 9, 2016 at 6:19 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Seeing as how Pabst generally only costs a buck, people should have plenty left to pay a decent and supportive cover.

You should write next about how nobody dances at shows anymore. That blows. Much love from L.A.

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Posted by Gabriel Ross Gotaway on April 7, 2016 at 7:27 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Seeing as how Pabst is generally costs only one dollar, people should have plenty left over to pay a decent and supportive cover.

You should write in about nobody dancing at shows, too. That blows. Much love from LA.

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Posted by Gabriel Ross Gotaway on April 7, 2016 at 7:24 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Not to judge, but Charleston doesn't really have or support a music scene, either for local or mid-level touring national acts. It was better even 10 years ago, but the scene has gradually petered out. Anyone with any drive or talent has moved to another city (mostly Nashville)

If you're comparing who Cumberlands (the Features, the Whigs, etc.) or the Village Tavern (Kings of Leon, Cold War Kids) were booking even 10-15 years ago and what Tin Roof etc. are booking now... well, there's no comparison.

Part of it is the closures of those legendary small venues that booked up-and-comers on the way to and back from SxSW who wanted to play where REM, etc. had played back in the day, and part of it is the steadily worsening and absolutely beyond shitty audiences Charleston gets.

Has anyone noticed that mid-level bands like Interpol and yes, Cold War Kids that regularly hit the Music Farm on every national tour have been skipping it for the last 4-5 years?

You have to make it worth a band's while to drive hours out of the way of major interstates where you can hit 20 small venues in a 6-7 hour radius, and we just don't.

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Posted by Elise Ladew on April 7, 2016 at 8:06 AM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

absolutely not. cover charges turn away crowds. all the money to be made at a club is in booze and drugs. bands need crowds. the worthy will get noticed and paid. the rest can play for free like the garbage they are worth.

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Posted by Erik Kluiber on April 7, 2016 at 5:04 AM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

"there's a local opener, a regional touring act, and either a local or national headliner"

where do you get that for $5?

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Posted by Jaxx on April 6, 2016 at 9:35 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

"The $5 cover has been around forever. My dad remembers paying $5 for Led Zeppelin in Scranton, Pa. in the early '70s."
First, are you comparing yourself to Led Zeppelin? healthy ego there
Second, my band played a club called "Ballyhoo" in Scranton in the 70s. We were a 7 piece band with a pretty fair following and we would get a $1 cover and that cover charge got you entry and a token for a free 25c draft beer. That's what regional working bands got in those days. So if we could draw a couple of hundred people, it would have to be split 7 ways, less a booking agent's percentage and we had to pay for the gas in a guzzling van for the 300 mile round trip. That's why so many people "used to be in a band"
Led Zeppelin at a venue would get $5, I saw bands like The Who at performing arts centers for $7.
Why do the big bands get so much more today? Because people are willing to pay it. You get $5 because that's what people are willing to pay.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on April 6, 2016 at 9:16 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

I gotta say I don't really get this article. Open for assistance. But it seems to me that there is no way to make a "minimum cover charge". That's a thing that doesn't make any sense. this person wants to make a law or something? I completely agree that clubs should pay more to musicians, bottom line. But it's up to the clubs to figure out how to do that. If they get more people in the door by having s free show and are then able to pay musicians off of bar sales, that's their model. If they pay strictly off of draw and attendance, that's their model. Making a minimum cover charge isn't logical. Every single bar and club works differently in the business end so m a bit confused at the aim of this article. I feel like the writing has been on the wall for these concepts for a long time. Imo clubs need to do more promotion themselves, do their job to get people in the door. I've played clubs that are established "places to be" and played a free show, and made a wonderful wage. Because the venue was awesome and people wanted to be there no matter what was happening. And because it was free. And I want to play there because their business model works in a way that pays me well.

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Posted by Neal Evans on April 6, 2016 at 7:29 PM

Re: “A musician's case against the $5 cover charge

Here's an idea: write decent music and stop playing at dive bars. What I get out of this is, "I want people to pay more at local bars to see my mediocre band because we aren't good enough to play at bigger venues." As a gigging musician this article saddens and disgusts me.

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Posted by thomthom on April 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM
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