I don't know, Driftaway, you know what they say about guys who claim to be straight but are so concerned about those who are not.
A troll in a closet, sounds about right.
Oh Clarkie, you really don't get laid much do you? So uptight you are. Much not have much luck with the ladies or wife if you are married. I'd tell ya to give guys a whirl but we really don't want you on our team. Happy Pride and Rainbows to you!
We'll probably never see another Bikini Kill.
This event WAS organized by Atlanta based events company, After Midnight Parties, and Greenville SC clothing company, Good Ole Boys. Anyone who thinks differently need to check out their wall post promoting that they will be providing DJs, Free Alcohol, a helicopter fly by, photographers, and more...all without permits or proper security to ensure no underage drinking was happening at their event. They heavily promoted the event throughout Atlanta, Athens, and Greenville. AMP has since removed their comment section on their Facebook page.
The people who were arrested went to jail and will have a fine and/ or court date for their crimes. However the ambitious out-of-town promoters who encouraged 3-4000 people to show up to 10th block got to go home and not suffer fines or jail time. Volunteers which also included the mayor and council members had to clean up trash which amounted to over 100 bags of garbage.
I am not in favor of the ban, but i think the promoters should have consequences.
I also think that alternatives to a ban should be explored such as the possibility to sale drinking permits, such as hunting and fishing permits are issued. easier to enforce...if you don't have a permit, the officer can sell you one onsite...if you don't want a permit, then they can confiscate your alcohol...no ticket issued. The price can be a premium....if you want to drink you can, but you need to pay to play since it is a privilege not a right.
Another freedom bites the dust.
So now the only place to get a drink on the beach is from the outdoor bar at Blu.
So as I said, all of the drunks will end up on the beach in front of Blu.
Families beware and go elsewhere.
And Blu, gonna need more bartenders.
Ha! That's awesome. I'm happy you're unhappy.
When you insult my relative intelligence, best spell well... but that's a MOOT point, and now you'll be MUTE about drinking at Folly.
CCP closed the park on the west end because the parking lot washed away. Bring all the "gravel for parking" you want, there's no where to put it. Before Irene, there were sand dunes necessitating those "ponderously overbuilt walk ways". I'm not a genius, it just seems that way when I'm debating an idiot. It's a mute point, by the way. Folly town council just banned alcohol on the beach. And that pisses me off too. Because a bunch of drunk assholes ruined it for everyone.
Look how angry you get, Jaxx! Angry Jaxx is angry. You're scary!
In case you weren't aware, it's illegal to be drunk in public. Black letter law in every municipality around the country. It is not illegal to imbibe in public in some areas. Your answer: enforce laws.
The theory is to create a zone that can be easily policed so that those who wish to drink can do so under the control of Folly authorities.
I have no idea what your point is other than you get angry. You need to find a compromise. There was a riot on the 4th of July because drinking freely is legal on the beach in Folly. The road west from Folly back towards Charleston is one of the most deadly in the region.
There is now a precedence and a pattern. A municipality that does not move to control this is going to face lawsuits and tax sanctions, decreasing property values and erosion of a tax base.
The only thing gone from the end of the beach is the bathrooms and the ponderously overbuilt walk ways. The beach is still there, genius. The beach down there is great. All that's needed is gravel for parking and a sturdier bathroom facility and it's back in business.
I'm not sure what you think Folly is. It's not IOP or Sullivan's. It's not Kiawah, Seabrook or Hilton Head. It's not the Outer Banks or South Beach. It is decidedly and purposefully low rent.
Here's another solution. Put lifeguards in additional areas. Did that just piss you the fuck off or what?
Landsnark-who said anything about anyone being opposed to viewing food being eaten? Snarky is one thing. Being a fucking stupid ass is another. The "city park" you speak of was a county park that has dissappeared into the ocean(have you ever even been to Folly?). And the only people you'll appease with this plan are the assholes who've ruined it for the rest of us. Those same assholes that were at 10th street would take up every square inch of space in front of Blu to get shitfaced and act like assholes. Not to mention the hotel full of tourists who just paid $300 a night for beach front accomodations with a view of a bunch of drunk Jersy Shore assholes, tourists who will never return, and spread the word about what a fucking shithole Folly is. Accomodating assholes who've ruined it for us civil beer drinkers would truly be folly.
Nice post Golden Ratio! i applaud your rational thinking. Heres to hoping clearer heads prevail in tonight's meeting.
So move those who would be morally and ethically at risk to view food being eaten and beers being drunk down to the city park at the end of the island where they'd been for years.
You're right though. Who is going to think of the children? WHY WON'T ANYBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!???
So move the lifeguards to the other side of the pier.
That area is a huge draw to parents with young children due to the lifeguards on patrol.
Frankly, that's an excellent idea, FCB. Turn this into a positive. The City of Folly could license vendors to allow the sale of beverages to patrons of age (who have paid a fee for an armband) that can be consumed within a rigid, defined area patrolled by an extra local policeman or 3. Additionally, Folly could allow Ritas, Taco Boy, Surf Bar, Kickin' Chicken, etc... to set up concessions in this area.
Here's what you get. Incremental tax revenue. Incremental business revenue. Licensing fees provide direct revenue for the City of Folly to pay for the administrative aspects to this new format... Police, legal studies, trash, structures, maintenance, park employees, etc... and it becomes yet another facet of Folly that will attract more tourists. Eat, drink and be merry, but do it under the gaze of a Sheriff's deputy and to it as a respectful guest of the community.
Put something similar down by the washout as well.
How fun to have barges with grills and coolers of beer, or beachside shacks w/burgers, tacos, etc...
The family on the barge that sells ice cream with that skull splitting ice cream music does this to great success.
Employ DUI stops on Folly leaving town from 5pm till... during the peak months. Rules and laws aren't bad. People enact them to prevent themselves from self injury.
If something is NOT done, and this issue of rampant DUIs after accidents, injuries/deaths, riots, public intoxication is allowed to grow unchecked, Folly will be facing a bankrupting lawsuit from a harmed party, citing negligence.
A compromise might be in order, say drinking only behind the Blu area from the pier to the end of the concrete seawall?
There are even a few restrooms in that area, so less pissing in the citizen's bushes.
And loose dogs only where the county park used to be so the rest of us can avoid them.
Excellent points, artear. I do have a cool handle. Since I came up with it, I felt like I deserve to apply it as I see fit, but I can see your point. I should've waited for your OK.
You're right. Blaming a drunken near-riot of 25yr to 35yr olds on their parents is not only sage, sober wisdom, it's also an insightful solution to literally every problem involving any human, and, it's a brilliant - perfectly brilliant - use of internet discussion space. Her position could not have been relayed more concisely and ideally. Genius. Indeed. I hope she blogs vehemently against President Assad's parents as well. And their parents.
Her parents were clearly masters of rhetoric and logic.
Additionally, no alcohol is purchased by daytrippers to Folly prior to their arrival. You're correct in that as well.
They pack ice, coozies, snacks, cups in their giant cooler before they leave, but they wait until traffic bottlenecks at Berts to get the centerpiece to all their preparation. They all prefer to deal with traffic on (is it West Ashley?) that road in order to wait 20 minutes to pull into the parking lot then 20 minutes to pull out, then head to the washout.
The only logical conclusion is that: A. a store on Folly sells beer, so, B. All beer on Folly must be from said store, C. Then all beer is obviously drunk in public on the beach.
(You forgot the gas station on Folly by the vacation rental company, but that in no way punches a hole in your sterling rhetoric.)
I don't want you to think for a moment that Bert's #1 source of revenue is cases and cases of wine and beer sold to week-long vacationers in their 6 bedroom rentals. Where they drink legally.
I can only hope that Folly does not over-react to the stupid actions of a few and recognizes the large number of responsible beach goers (local and visiting alike). Perhaps things would have been better had the proper permits been obtained (or if police intervened earlier in the day when no permits were presented) but sadly, this 4th of July was a lesson in things gone wrong. If "banning" alcohol is really what the City wants, I strongly suggest they start small - restrict drinking on major holidays only, like 4th of July, Labor Day, Memorial Day, etc. There is no need for an all-out ban. I've seen the sad effects of a knee-jerk reaction to drinking on the beach in other cities before, and would hate to see Folly become another paradise that over-reacts to the stupidity of a few. Use common sense, enforce current regulations and let adults enjoy what few freedoms we have left.
You've got a pretty cool handle there, landsnark, too bad you don't deserve it. Duffy's post is far from the "stupidest (expletive deleted) post ever", but yours comes pretty close. FYI there's a place on Folly called Bert's and they sell beer there. Shock!
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