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Re: “The Agenda: Another S.C. bathroom bill filed; Electors choose Trump; CofC being sued by alleged rape victim

Mr. Thompson makes several totally illogical statements.

1. Ezra Taft Benson did not have access to classified information about the communist movement in the United States so it is totally absurd to assert any connection between Benson and his agreement with Robert Welch's personal opinions -- which often were nothing more than insinuations and innuendos contained in Welch's "private letter" entitled The Politician.

2. It is NOT "factually incorrect" (as Thompson claims) to state that the Birch Society "believed Eisenhower was a Communist".

The premises, arguments, themes, evidence, and conclusions contained in Welch's "private letter have always been the premises, arguments, themes, evidence, and conclusions used by the Birch Society to educate its prospective members---which is why...

(a) Robert Welch sent copies of his unpublished manuscript to prospective JBS members during 1959 and 1960 and he then asked them to join the JBS based upon their reading and acceptance of the content of The Politician and

(b) In 2002, the JBS published a new edition of The Politician. This new edition is self-described on the back cover as the most devastating expose of the last century because it tells the bitter, but little known truth about our postwar history and the back cover statement concludes:

But most importantly, The Politician exposes that conspiracy of gangsters which even now is setting Americas foreign and domestic policy.

It is also why several JBS National Council members and JBS Coordinators stated that The Politician represented a "higher truth" which only certain JBS members could be trusted to understand.

(c) The Birch Society DID explicitly endorse The Politician after it was first published in 1963.

For example:

JBS Bulletin, 09/63:

Robert Welch declared that The Politician "has now proved to be by far the most effective single help to our recruiting efforts."

JBS Bulletin, 6/63

Welch encouraged JBS members to make The Politician "the largest selling book in all history".

AND, in a 8/22/62 letter to Ezra Taft Benson in which he offered to send a copy of the unpublished edition of The Politician to Benson, Mr. Welch wrote to Benson:

"For there are quite a number of outstanding Americans who are among our strongest and most unshakable supporters who had been made so by reading this document; and we have never really had any trouble with, or criticism from, those who have actually read the 'letter' themselves..."

(d) In addition, in September 1960, the Office of Naval Intelligence prepared a summary report concerning JBS activities in the Chicago area.

Here is the pertinent excerpt from their Report which provides further evidence of how JBS officials used The Politician as a recruitment tool for the JBS when readers could be "properly guided within the Society". [JBS National Council member Stillwell Conner's name is mis-spelled as "Connor"].

Stilwell J. Connor, 6657 N. Sioux Avenue, Chicago, Illinois and his wife have been particularly active Coordinators for the John Birch Society in the Chicago area and specifically at Glenview, Illinois. [Name deleted] of Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church in Glenview has cooperated with Society Coordinators by calling special parish meetings for the purpose of organizing local chapters of the Society and extending the use of church buildings for holding such meetings. One such meeting held on July 11, 1960 attracted about 200 citizens to hear Connor present the views of Robert Welch via sound films and literature."

"One member of the audience asked about Welchs book, The Politician. Connor vehemently denied the existence of such a book whereupon the interested spectator produced the book and proceeded to read appropriate quotations for the benefit of Connor and his audience. Connor then admitted the existence of the book but reportedly said that the book was only for those who were properly guided within the Society. Connor reportedly remarked that to make the book available to the general membership without proper guidance would be analogous to permitting a first year medical student attempt to cure cancer. On another occasion a potential recruit of the Society was disillusioned after reading The Politician and expressed her disgust to Connor who cautioned her that if she ever revealed the nature of the book he would promptly discredit her and deny the existence of the book at its contents. [District Intelligence Office, Ninth Naval District Chicago IL; 9/16/60 report captioned "Ninth Naval District Subversive Trends of Current Interest, The John Birch Society, pages 2-3].

(e) Lastly, if you prepare a list of every person named and attacked in The Politician, you will discover that the Birch Society has always presented the same derogatory judgments about those individuals in their official publications -- including the 4-volume JBS publication entitled "Biographical Dictionary of the Left"

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Posted by Ernie Lazar on December 22, 2016 at 12:14 AM

Re: “Hug your friends and hug a journalist

Has anyone seen a real journalist lately? I know they are out there somewhere, but getting harder and harder to find. Gunnar was on the right track then unsurprisingly went off the rails at the end. Today in the media we have a lot of people who simply parrot establishment talking points they are fed without any actual research or fact-checking.

But by establishment, I don't mean liberal. I mean monied. Regardless of political affiliation, only a handful of corporations control the majority of media outlets in our country. They have a vested interest in keeping people uninformed. It's a shame this, like everything else, has boiled down to partisan politics. But it is a convenient (and intentional) distraction.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on December 21, 2016 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Hug your friends and hug a journalist

I absolutely agree with Shani Gilchrist, and she did a wonderful job with this story. I absolutely DISAGREE with Gunnar's comment. The "public" that holds journalists to such low standards according to Gunnar, are the same people who Gunnar asserts regard journalists as liberal hacks. Well Gunnar, you must be a conservative hack!! You Gunnar, are the hack!!!!!! This article is about journalists emotional journey and feelings throughout the Roof trial, and how as the public, we needing to be emotionally comforted when in turn, journalists who report on such topics, that keeps the public informed, sometimes need to be comforted too. This was an article about a terrorist and the emotional draining a murder trial can take on all parties involved including journalists. You sir, made it into a rant about "liberal hacks" as journalists. Have a little humanity and take your liberal hack complaints to an article that is about that. This is about a horrific murderer, a trial, and the pain and suffering of families, strangers, a city, as well as those documenting the events for all of us. Please, take your comments to a political article instead of one that has to do with coming together.

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Posted by Brandy 1 on December 21, 2016 at 1:20 PM

Re: “Hug your friends and hug a journalist

Frankly, most journalists, except you, of course, are held in VERY LOW regard by the general public. Journalists and media employees are going to have to work extremely hard to overcome the poor reputations they have earned for themselves in recent years. Most journalists are regarded as liberal hacks who are unable to earn a living in another line of work.

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Posted by Gunnar on December 21, 2016 at 7:22 AM

Re: “State and federal gun laws make it easy to give and receive firearms as gifts

The murder rate per capita in the US it an all time low since we've had a reliable recording system for measuring it.

The laws regulating firearms ownership and transfers are the most restrictive they've ever been in our nation's history.

Is the entire sky falling or just parts of it?

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Posted by Cid95 1 on December 21, 2016 at 12:41 AM

Re: “The tragic but undeniable truth about Scott Weiland and Stone Temple Pilots

You really have no clue. Weiland's vocal diversity was defining, not a weakness. I saw them, in the beginning, athe the peak, and near the end. I saw Velvet Revolver. I have been to more than 150 shows & Scott Weiland was a tremendous artist and performer. Check the dates regarding the conception of STP's "Core" & Pearl Jam's "Ten". You shouldn't be paid to write this drivel. Also, by the time STP's #4 came out, even the critical community began to change their tone. Stone Temple Pilots were one in a billion. Had Scott Weiland been able to escape his demons, they would likely become Legends, much the way Led Zeppelin did. As is, they are one of the greatest rock bands to exist in the last four decades. Their music will continue to age well & gain continued appreciation. Those two Velvet Revolver albums were pretty phenomenal as well. Scott Weiland's "12 Bar Blues" is remarkable, and even the late follow up, "Happy in Galoshes" was solid though uneven.

Posted by Steven Perry on December 20, 2016 at 11:07 PM

Re: “Following latest fatality, state leader continues call for safer pedestrian passage on Crosstown

With all of this new construction going on, has anyone thought of the possibility of an elevated second roadway above the crosstown? I mean, since the city seems averse to the thought of a transit system, the cars have to go somewhere. An elevated roadway above the existing crosstown would take the passing through traffic that's I26 or Mt Pleasant bound, or West Ashley bound, conversely, leaving the surface streets for downtown traffic.

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Posted by Calhoun Hendricks on December 20, 2016 at 5:23 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Another S.C. bathroom bill filed; Electors choose Trump; CofC being sued by alleged rape victim

This is a non-story, as Congressmen speak to the John Birch Society about the Federal Reserve on a regular basis. Ron Paul was a staple at national JBS gatherings, and aside from ending the illegal wars, Ending the Fed was one of his main causes. I should also add that, for a site that pretends to be "liberal" and "anti-war" and "anti-Putin," you should be pleased that people like this congressman, and not neocon war criminals like Bush/Cheney, are being nominated to influential positions.


Still this article should have pointed out that the only person to serve two terms in Eisenhower's administration, Ezra Taft Benson, agreed with John Birch Society founder Robert Welch's book and its conclusions about Eisenhower. He later told everyone to join JBS. Also it is factually incorrect to say JBS believed Eisenhower was a communist. Certainly many members did, but the Society never did.


How do YOU explain putting Castro in power, helping Stalin enslave all of Eastern Europe, giving China to Mao by stabbing Chiang Kai Shek in the back, using US troops to round up millions of Soviet refugees so Stalin could torture and murder them (Operation Keelhaul), etc etc? If you have a better explanation I'd like to hear it. Welch had 3, one of which was that Eisenhower might be a commie. Another was that he was a useful idiot. Stalin called Eisenhower a "great man" and invited him to be the first foreigner to watch a military parade in Red Square.

Basically JBS has been proven correct and is now the dominant strain of conservatism in America because of it. Buckley, a member of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations and the same secret society as Kerry and Bush (Skull and Bones), has been proven wrong. Only Salon and a few other fringe far-left rags still cite Buckley as the "intellectual godfather of modern conservatism." His effort to destroy the JBS backfired just as bad as National Review's effort to destroy Trump. Even the biggest conservative heavyweights like Phyllis Schlafly sided with JBS and denounced Buckley. (Shclafly, RIP, even cancelled her subscription to National Review and asked that the money be sent to Welch! lol)

If it's true that this congressman spoke to JBS about the evils of the Federal Reserve, that only increases my respect and support for him and Trump. #MAGA

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Posted by Charles Thompson on December 20, 2016 at 1:52 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Another S.C. bathroom bill filed; Electors choose Trump; CofC being sued by alleged rape victim

Rep. Mulvaney will be an excellent pick for Budget Director. Haley, I'm not so sure about, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

This "Story" about Mulvaney is a non-story, as Congressmen speak to the John Birch Society about the Federal Reserve on a regular basis. Ron Paul was a staple at national JBS gatherings, and aside from ending the illegal wars, Ending the Fed was one of his main causes. He was re-elected like 20 times and finally retired out. The SC legislature is absolutely filled with JBS members, lol.

The irony of the anti-Putin conspiracy theorists at MoJo who claim Trump is puppet of a vast Moscow conspiracy calling JBS conspiracy-minded is incredibly rich.

Contrary to the factually incorrect claims made by the MJ article, basically JBS has been proven correct and is now the dominant strain of conservatism in America because of it. Even left-wing nut jobs at TNR and Salon and Slate and HuffPo recognize this.

Buckley, a member of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations and the same secret society as Kerry and Bush (Skull and Bones), has been proven wrong. His effort to destroy the JBS backfired just as bad as National Review's effort to destroy Trump. Even the biggest conservative heavyweights like Phyllis Schlafly sided with JBS and denounced Buckley. (Shclafly, RIP, even cancelled her subscription to National Review and asked that the money be sent to Welch! lol)

If it's true that this congressman spoke to JBS about the evils of the Federal Reserve, that only increases my respect and support for him and Trump. #MAGA

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Posted by Charles Thompson on December 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM

Re: “State and federal gun laws make it easy to give and receive firearms as gifts

I fully support a person's Constitutional right to be scared of everything around them and use the threat of violence to deal with their own insecurities. It's just a shame so many children and other innocent people have to die to prove a point. But what can ya do?

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Posted by Ron Liberte on December 19, 2016 at 12:46 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Statewide 'porno filter'?; Mulvaney for OMB; McMaster's grows real estate holdings

Porno filter? I don't even have to look to know this bill was introduced by small government Republicans who think the free market should not be regulated.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on December 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM
Posted by Randall Floyd on December 19, 2016 at 10:45 AM

Re: “What the Slager mistrial says about our criminal justice system

Thanks Badpenny61! I appreciate it... The Struggle is LONG from Over.

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Posted by Dr Wright on December 18, 2016 at 3:31 PM

Re: “What the Slager mistrial says about our criminal justice system

Hmmm...isn't it interesting how only white males are apologists for Slager's cowardly actions? Could it be a tribal thing? And such vitriol on top of it - wow! Dr. Wright, you are my new hero. I would recommend several books for the undereducated in race matters. The "Underground Railroad", "The Known World" and "The Invisible Man". Also, anything by Toni Morrison. Peace...

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Posted by badpenny61 on December 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM

Re: “Rep. Jim Merrill indicted on ethics violations and misconduct

At least he has hired fellow a fellow legislator to represent him keeping it all in the club.

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Posted by RASPUTIY on December 16, 2016 at 10:50 PM

Re: “Donald Trump wants to throw flag-burners in jail, but technically South Carolina has an old law that would do just that

Just like HRC had a different public and private stance on some issues, trump has a different public and privates stance on every issue. He is blatant about how he "played up" the voters before the election and just casually says, "I don't care anymore. I've won the election." Everybody's going to get fucked now. The link showing this on video cannot possibly be refuted. Oh yeah, trumpsters will somehow find a way.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/i9tog6/the-d…

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Posted by tupper29406 on December 16, 2016 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Prosecutors paint a troubling picture of accused church shooter

He was found guilty? What a shock
/sarcasm off

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Posted by Jshicke on December 16, 2016 at 9:45 AM

Re: “The Agenda: More corruption indictments coming?; CARTA getting money for shelters, buses; I-526 still alive

"Why does no one on the face of the earth remember that the tax-payers APPROVED the extension and funds way-back?"

Probably because it didn't happen. Perhaps you are referring to the 2004 sales tax hike - here is the actual ordinance: http://www.charlestoncounty.org/Ordinances… .

Posted by johnpauljah on December 16, 2016 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Rep. Jim Merrill indicted on ethics violations and misconduct

I'm not a betting man, but this is how I see this playing out:
1. He pleads not guilty, his lawyer does a lot of hand-waving and makes some ridiculous and wildly distracting claims about how unfair the ethics statutes are.
2. Rep. Merrill works among his fellow Good Ol' Boys in the state to hand-pick his replacement, grease a few wheels for his companies legislatively and perhaps calling in a few favors on the ethics committee and prosecutor's office.
3. Once his follow-on career and political legacy are secured, he pleads to a minor infraction, pays a minor penalty, and resigns "for the good of the state and my constituents in Daniel Island."
4. His company is thrown a regular series of state-contracting bones from the GOB network in upcoming years to make amends for all the hubbub about ethics.

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Posted by factoryconnection on December 16, 2016 at 9:35 AM

Re: “Rep. Jim Merrill indicted on ethics violations and misconduct

Why prosecute Merrill given that our pres-elect intends to do the same thing? It is now ok to be corrupt and profit from public office. Just ask any trumpster, because that is what they want, apparently - unbridled corruption. Fake news convinced the nation that HRC was corrupt, but you haven't seen anything yet. They must want trump to be friends with rogue countries that will make him richer and he will shun "ally" countries that shun him, personally. That's what happens when you install a 12 year old spoiled brat to run things. Vengence is mine, sayeth trump.

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Posted by tupper29406 on December 16, 2016 at 8:42 AM
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