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Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

Warwit, the conservative elite dominates the radio talk shows. They sure don't sound like their freedom of expression is restricted. People like Rush keep talking with contempt about liberals and even moderates. Even insulting people. Rush loves to insult people he does not like. Conservative talk is dominated by conservative political correctness. If some conservative on the radio were to agree with the liberal side on any issue, most of his listeners will not want to listen to him any more, they will call him a Rino.

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Posted by Tom Martin on May 16, 2015 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

Although most of what the professor wrote was true, he should have known better than to put those ideas out there in a society where freedom of expression is afforded only to the liberal elite. This PC nonsense has got to stop.

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Posted by warwit on May 16, 2015 at 8:47 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Inquiry into Chs. schools; Local car exports to double; Tin foil hats for Limehouse's Sharia law debate

Oh Bob Donovan, quit being so silly. We beat Floriduh years ago, we are light years ahead of them in political dumbassery, they take lessons from us. They wish they could be as tinfoil hatted repped as we are in SC. We are by by far, the superior stupid state and currently neck to neck with TexAss for the 2015 National Title of Pinheaded Political Leadership. (The PPL National League). Just read the above article for just a few random examples if you have any doubt that our long and proud tradition of stupid is as stupid does continues here in South Cacalacky. Floriduh if!

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on May 16, 2015 at 4:32 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

Racism did not doom Asian-Americans, because most of them believe in studying very hard in school. So most have succeeded.
Most blacks do not have the custom of studying very hard in school, many think they won't succeed anyway, so they don't even try much. It is not because they are inferior, all races are equal. But they just had a different history, affecting their culture. And some blacks are racist against their own race, thinking they are not so smart, so they will not excel in school. That did not happen among Asian-Americans. But the Native tribes, racially so similar to Asians, also had bad history, so most likewise don't study hard in school. Some Natives and some blacks think that studying hard, succeeding in school, is acting white, so they bully those who are successful. So sad. Also it is a fact that many teachers don't expect much success of black or Native students, so they don't encourage them as much, and they are often also harsher with discipline on black or Native kids, thinking they might be less moral. It is a vicious cycle. It is just like with the Gypsies in Europe. Or the Gypsies have it even worse.

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Posted by Tom Martin on May 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

How on earth did this Jerry Hough idiot manage to get even a B.A., let alone graduate degrees, a job, tenure, etc?!!!

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Posted by Erin Winslow on May 16, 2015 at 2:13 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

This professor's comments, much like the comments of some of CCP's resident I'm Not A Racist, But™ posters, imply that all minorities should be lumped together and compared to each other. "Asians have enjoyed success - why can't blacks?"

No need to examine historical context or nuance - there are only two groups according to this train of thought: White People and Minorities. If one minority group can get their shit together, they all should be able too, right?

These types of generalizations are what perpetuates racism in the first place, but the people who posit them will never have the requisite self awareness to realize their worldviews are laughingly backwards, and will continue to wonder why The Minorities just can't get over it.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on May 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

Might not like hearing it, but nothing there can can really be refuted.

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Posted by MJnChucktown on May 16, 2015 at 1:13 PM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

"Wow. Just wow." That's what you want to pass for interactive analysis? While Dr. Hough's remarks may make you uncomfortable (and we can't have THAT, can we?) it's interesting that you are unwilling or unable to advance the dialogue with anything beyond those two words. So keep up the great work - you are a shining example of the genius of the Peter Principle.

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Posted by trident90 on May 16, 2015 at 11:21 AM

Re: “Duke prof posts racially inflammatory comment on NY Times story

I can't wait for the comments championing his message.

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Posted by leemajors on May 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM

Re: “The media, elected officials unite with big business to oppose unions

I'm late to the dance and have nothing of viable substance to add. However I would like to say though that I saw this dude, and his child, wearing anti Union, vote NO T-shirts in that Gawd awful bastion to Capitalism Wal-Mart....Now I guess one could surmise that Boeing or the contractor this fellow works for is most likely the best job he has had (looked to be around 30-35 or so) but my thought was "why on earth would someone buy into having no voice whatsoever backed by a bunch that has everything to gain by him not having a voice, albeit small and part of the flock"??? What am I missing here (other than Person of Interest on the tube)??? Like I said, nothing of why did I waste my and everyones elses word....insomnia.....

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Posted by Feldon on May 16, 2015 at 2:36 AM

Re: “It's time to bring back slavery

Oh god, this is the best thing.

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Posted by elizabethesto on May 16, 2015 at 12:52 AM

Re: “Here’s why protesters shut down the Ravenel Bridge Wednesday

I try to avoid reading most of the comments on City Paper stories. I should have with this one.
Just a quick look at the comments and the likes/dislikes shows some shamefully pervasive racism.

Posted by elizabethesto on May 16, 2015 at 12:44 AM

Re: “It's time to bring back slavery

Artogue, so Sowell blames welfare for rising crime rates in the sixties. So why have crime rates been declining again since the seventies? We still have welfare.
No, the crime rates were so high in the sixties and seventies mainly due to growing disrespect of the police, due to the civil rights movement, and police reaction to it, then the growing dislike of the Vietnam war, with the tendency of many to call police pigs, and also the Watergate scandal, which also made many disillusioned with government.

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Posted by Tom Martin on May 15, 2015 at 11:34 PM

Re: “Amendment to police body camera bill exempts video from Freedom of Information Act

Um...these two paragraphs are in direct conflict with each other. How are these people allowed to write laws if they can't even tell a decent lie?

"When asked why the proposed policy for body camera footage differs from the precedent set by dashboard camera footage, Pope said, 'The theory here is, arguably ... a patrol car would not be in your home. Say for example your neighbors were dealing meth, and you called law enforcement to your house to discuss it. Would your neighbor be able to do an FOI to get the information of who had told them they were cooking meth? That was kind of the underlying thought process.'"

The bill currently allows access to body camera footage by 'a criminal defendant if the recording is relevant to a pending criminal action.'"

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Posted by mat catastrophe on May 15, 2015 at 9:50 PM

Re: “It's time to bring back slavery

I know how much everyone loves my cut and paste. :)

This recent column is the best i have seen on the subject.

Among the many painful ironies in the current racial turmoil is that communities scattered across the country were disrupted by riots and looting because of the demonstrable lie that Michael Brown was shot in the back by a white policeman in Missouri — but there was not nearly as much turmoil created by the demonstrable fact that a fleeing black man was shot dead by a white policeman in South Carolina.

Totally ignored was the fact that a black policeman in Alabama fatally shot an unarmed white teenager, and was cleared of any charges, at about the same time that a white policeman was cleared of charges in the fatal shooting of Michael Brown.

In a world where the truth means so little, and headstrong preconceptions seem to be all that matter, what hope is there for rational words or rational behavior, much less mutual understanding across racial lines?

When the recorded fatal shooting of a fleeing man in South Carolina brought instant condemnation by whites and blacks alike, and by the most conservative as well as the most liberal commentators, that moment of mutual understanding was very fleeting, as if mutual understanding were something to be avoided, as a threat to a vision of "us against them" that was more popular.

That vision is nowhere more clearly expressed than in attempts to automatically depict whatever social problems exist in ghetto communities as being caused by the sins or negligence of whites, whether racism in general or a "legacy of slavery" in particular. Like most emotionally powerful visions, it is seldom, if ever, subjected to the test of evidence.

The "legacy of slavery" argument is not just an excuse for inexcusable behavior in the ghettos. In a larger sense, it is an evasion of responsibility for the disastrous consequences of the prevailing social vision of our times, and the political policies based on that vision, over the past half century.

Anyone who is serious about evidence need only compare black communities as they evolved in the first 100 years after slavery with black communities as they evolved in the first 50 years after the explosive growth of the welfare state, beginning in the 1960s.

You would be hard-pressed to find as many ghetto riots prior to the 1960s as we have seen just in the past year, much less in the 50 years since a wave of such riots swept across the country in 1965.

We are told that such riots are a result of black poverty and white racism. But in fact — for those who still have some respect for facts — black poverty was far worse, and white racism was far worse, prior to 1960. But violent crime within black ghettos was far less.

Murder rates among black males were going down — repeat, DOWN — during the much lamented 1950s, while it went up after the much celebrated 1960s, reaching levels more than double what they had been before. Most black children were raised in two-parent families prior to the 1960s. But today the great majority of black children are raised in one-parent families.

Such trends are not unique to blacks, nor even to the United States. The welfare state has led to remarkably similar trends among the white underclass in England over the same period. Just read "Life at the Bottom," by Theodore Dalrymple, a British physician who worked in a hospital in a white slum neighborhood.

You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization — including work, behavioral standards, personal responsibility and all the other basic things that the clever intelligentsia disdain — without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large.

Non-judgmental subsidies of counterproductive lifestyles are treating people as if they were livestock, to be fed and tended by others in a welfare state — and yet expecting them to develop as human beings have developed when facing the challenges of life themselves.

One key fact that keeps getting ignored is that the poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits every year since 1994.

Behavior matters and facts matter, more than the prevailing social visions or political empires built on those visions.
Dr. Thomas Sowell

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Posted by artrogue on May 15, 2015 at 5:36 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Inquiry into Chs. schools; Local car exports to double; Tin foil hats for Limehouse's Sharia law debate

South Carolina, gunning for dumbest state in the Union. LOOK OUT FLORIDUH WE'RE COMING

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Posted by Robert Donovan on May 15, 2015 at 1:43 PM

Re: “It's time to bring back slavery

Beautiful! Well put.

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Posted by Peter Koepke on May 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM

Re: “It's time to bring back slavery

I'm from SC but live in Sweden since 1994 and my 14 year old Swedish friend understands how the legacy of slavery still exists in the present. So what is so hard for y'all to understand?

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Posted by Erin Winslow on May 15, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Volvo to Berkeley County; Development fights bring zoning intrigue; Hollywood home invasion details

leemajors - as usual you have nary the fucking clue of what you are talking about. 2k (at least) jobs that pay ~40% above the median household income (again, at least) is not bettering the local society? Oh, yeah, you would rather have people sucking off the government teat than working to better themselves and their families independent of the government. As for the "lowest-bidder insanity" remark, which should not be hyphenated, you again prove your ignorance. Go learn about government procurement best practices (and actual practices) before you talk about something you obviously are clueless on. And besides that, do you think that going with the highest bidder would improve infrastructure problems? Thanks for one of the funniest and most idiotic comments I have seen in a while. Using your ding dong logic, there is a budget and supposedly the lowest bidder is used which results in infrastructure is crumbling. But, given the same budget using higher bidders infrastructure would not be crumbling? What a maroon.

factoryconnection - 28 years is on the far end of return and that is based on a static income amount for the employees and just on income tax collected from the low estimate of Volvo only jobs created. That does not include sales tax, property tax, import/export tax, accommodations tax, gas tax, airport tax etc, etc generated by having the large influx of jobs that this facility will bring. Also, if Volvo is still paying their people the same roughly 50k a year in ten years you couldn't pay me to ride in one of their cars. Boeing has been here for less than a decade and the amount of economic activity and tax revenue they have created is far and above the roughly $1B in incentives they received.

I am guessing that the rates they are getting are in the 1-2% range. Charleston County and Charleston County Schools have been getting in the low ones the last several years for bonds backed by the sales tax referendum. Usually when there is a pretty definite source of income to back it up and the agencies have good credit ratings they are getting very low rates. Also, not all of the money is being spent or borrowed at the same time and some is most likely not going to come from bond issues like the interchange redesign and training and job tax credits. Those tax credits are applied to income taxes owed by the company so it is never a true loss, it is just that the extra revenue that the state receives in income taxes is reduced based on the number of (income tax paying) jobs they create. Also, some of the money is likely to be short term borrowing (like the money Santee Cooper is spending to buy the industrial park) as the government will secure assets and then sell them back to the private sector as the plant is constructed and ramps up to production.

I don't see things being ignored in the least. You just had Bees Ferry Road widened at a cost of $40M, the same for a long stretch of Johnny Dodds at three times that, Palmetto Commerce Parkway, Future Drive, the widening of I26, the upcoming widening of 526, etc, etc. The folks in Charleston, Dorchester and Berkeley Counties have all voted to increase their sales taxes to benefit infrastructure improvement and even at the state level there seems to be growing support for increasing the gas tax. Projects in the Charleston area are getting put out for bid several times because the contractors are so busy and are either taking on more expensive subs or passing on the bids.

As I said, I am not a fan of the fact that it has come to the point that states are having to give incentive packages to get companies to come but that is the lay of the land right now. Kind of like Congressman who are on the losing side of a vote shouldn't refuse to use what is being provided by that legislation. And, based on the huge economic impact the state has seen basically since BMW was courted the math appears to be working. Were it not for BMW Boeing never would have considered moving here, were it not for Boeing, no Daimler , no Daimler likely no Volvo, no automakers no SC being one of the biggest tire producers in the world, etc.

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Posted by nofaith on May 15, 2015 at 1:06 PM

Re: “A month after Walter Scott's shooting, activists still calling for civilian police oversight


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