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Re: “The Agenda: Could bike lane help West Ashley?; Adoption scammers; Millions in S.C. affected by hacks

"revitalize West Ashley"
West Ashley was "vital" when it's business community reflected what the local consumers wanted, that's how things work.
You have a centralized population, businesses spring up to capitalize on it, it's a symbiotic relationship. Then the population mass begins to shift to a new area, and that one becomes more "vital." What has happened in West Ashley is the demographic that was courted by local businesses has moved and there is now a mismatch between WA residents and businesses. The best way to revitalize is to attract businesses that service the current population, not the one that lived there 30 years ago, otherwise WA is going to end up looking like Rivers Ave from 526 up to Trident Tech.
Now, if you're talking "revitalize" like Avondale, I would argue that Avondale is not "Vital", just popular. Vital would imply that the majority of the customers for VooDoo, Triangle, Mellow Mushroom, etal. all live in the Avondale community. I would believe that on any given Friday or Saturday night the vast majority of the patrons live somewhere other than Avondale, and the majority of the profit takers as well. I may be wrong and wouldn't mind seeing facts to show that, but until something concrete is shown, Popular not Vital.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on July 19, 2016 at 9:31 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Unarmed citizens stop mass shooters more than twice as frequently as armed citizens do, according to FBI studies. But mostly, mass shooters just get bored and wander off, or kill themselves.

Mostly, Good Guys With Guns either end up killing themselves in a moment of weakness, family members in a moment of anger, or strangers in a moment of confusion.

Most Bad Guys With Guns were Good Guys With Guns until they decided to cause harm.

Guns are a blight on public safety and have no place in a modern, developed society.

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Posted by leemajors on July 19, 2016 at 8:30 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Yes unfortunately we have become such a litigious society I would be worried about my family being ruined by a lawsuit. If we had more people who cared about their families over anything else we would live in safer better society. You sure do nit pick, I bet you play devils advocate every chance you get. Your friends probably love it.

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Posted by redblood on July 19, 2016 at 8:23 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

So in the scenario where you're the good guy with the gun, you'll have legal issues going through your head, and they'll prevent you from pulling your weapon?

We deserve a better hero than you.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 11:36 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Could bike lane help West Ashley?; Adoption scammers; Millions in S.C. affected by hacks

Okay, well you provide one feasible way to revitalize West Ashley.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 11:07 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Could bike lane help West Ashley?; Adoption scammers; Millions in S.C. affected by hacks

"bike lane could help with the revitalization of West Ashley." What are these people smoking?

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Posted by Street Law on July 18, 2016 at 10:12 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

I was referring to a hypothetical person at the Dallas shooting. Most people pocket carry .380 today. Good or bad round it is very popular. I don't what the cop was carrying, wasn't really my point. The sad part is if the cop accidentally shot someone in the club during the assault he would have been sued.

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Posted by redblood on July 18, 2016 at 8:40 PM

Re: “Pokémon Go: The good, the bad, and the Blastoise

Isnt it more sad, that people are sitting in front of their computers complaining about people who are actually getting out of their chairs and playing outside? even more sad people on the internet. Hahaha

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Posted by pokepokewhosthere on July 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

"didn't stay around trying to shoot a unknown shooter with a .380 pocket pistol. Shame on the off-duty cop in Orlando for losing a gun fight."

According to http://factcheck.org, he was in his service uniform while working the door. There's no way he was carrying a purse-gun .380. He was in uniform, so he had his service sidearm. This means we're talking AT THE VERY LEAST a 9mm. However, like many officers, he could have been holding a .40, .357, or .45. Fact. 9mm at the least -- and that has plenty (way more than enough) ballistic stopping power.

.380 for a uniformed cop? Please. That's a wife gun -- and you know it.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 4:08 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

I really hope that you're as tough as you're trying to sound; that way, I can count on you to be the "good guy" with the concealed permit who's going to stop the next potential shooter in Charleston, thereby saving myself and my family's lives along with hundreds of others.

You know, like you read about all the time: Good Guys Preventing Mass Shootings is an almost-weekly/monthly news occurrence, unlike, say, mass shootings.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Geez guys, Im sorry a texas citizen or Orlando off-duty carrying a gun didn't shoot the killer. How dare the texan citizen run for his/her life and didn't stay around trying to shoot a unknown shooter with a .380 pocket pistol. Shame on the off-duty cop in Orlando for losing a gun fight.

The good guys don't always win but there will always be bad people.

IN MY OPINION, There is just no way around it at this point any gun ban is to facilitate a future gun confiscation. It took me a while to come around to that fact. Now I see it clear as day. Some people are for a complete confiscation and I get that but don't act like its not. If you stand for something speak up, don't lie about what you really want. I also understand many people are misinformed or lie to themselves, especially on this subject.

I personally have been shot at with 15 9mm rounds and the guy who did it illegally had the pistol and only got 2 years probation. Didn't have a conceal weapon then but wouldn't leave the house without one now. People are freaking crazy, protect yourself and your family. Don't leave it up to the bad guy making bad shoots for you to live.

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Posted by redblood on July 18, 2016 at 3:08 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

No, you are not getting it right.

Laws that regulate the concealed carry of firearms will only be follow by people that care about laws. People are carrying firearms every day in prohibited areas, drinking, committing acts of violence, etc. Neither existing laws nor new laws will change that.

The point is to not disarm law abiding people, nor to overly restrict their right to bear arms. We allow drinking and driving, for instance (up to a certain BAC). Some states apply the same BAC to concealed carry. Works for me - after all vehicles can be much more effective weapons as seen before, most recently in France.

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 2:32 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

"There are laws that prohibit carrying a concealed weapon while drinking in public."

Hmm, so the argument against gun laws is that then only outlaws will have guns, so the laws are bad....

But the law against drinking while carrying a weapon will always be followed? Am I getting this right?


"How come no Armed Big Big Bad Texans came to the rescue?"

Because they were too busy running away. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headl…

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Posted by mat catastrophe on July 18, 2016 at 12:39 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Larger ships in Charleston Harbor; Police looking for potential rally instigator

Mat - "You ever read much about the colonial revolution against Great Britain?"

Yes! I have. The lesson, from then to Turkey this week and every revolution in between, is that if you win you're a hero and if you lose you are traitor and might get hung.

If BLM can win, then they will be heroes.

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Ima - A firearm is not a magic talisman which protects one against harm. Every one of the murdered cops in the recent incidents had at least one firearm. Citizens have helped and will continue to help law enforcement personnel when situations arise. However, bad things will continue to happen unfortunately.

http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=290083…

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 11:55 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Don't forget the armed off-duty cop working the door ar Pulse in Orlando, Ima. He was a good guy with a gun -- a very good guy with a gun; ready to stop anything if it goes down.

He was overpowered and outgunned within seconds, though, and immediately had to call for backup.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 11:48 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

It's just a resolution, a statement. It's not a law. Like all normal states, SC law is that local laws can't preempt state laws. They are free to make whatever statement or resolution they want. I am free to vote for whoever I want.

Laura: "I can assure you I am greatly aggrieved by people walking around in public, including bars where they might be expected to drink alcohol, with any kind of weapon they want any time and appreciate my elected representative petitioning the state government on my behalf."

You forgot one key word. LAWFULLY. In which case I'm happy to inform you that I know of zero incidents where LAWFULLY armed citizens have caused any harm in SC bars since the laws expanded to allow CWP carry in bars. Do you know of any? I stand to be corrected.

I do know of a mass shooting at a SC bar which was stopped by a LAWFULLY armed citizen just a month or so ago. Do you see the issue here? Criminals don't give a damn whether they are lawfully allowed to buy, sell, own or carry firearms. They are willing to murder their fellow citizens. That is what AGGRIEVES me. That is what should AGGRIEVE you.

http://www.wistv.com/story/32308903/deputi…

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 11:41 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Hey did anybody notice the cop killings last week in Texas, the state with the lightest open carry laws in the country? How come no Armed Big Big Bad Texans came to the rescue? I thought that was the purpose of loosening carry laws... or in Louisiana? Or did you just mean you would open fire to protect private citizens, screw the cops?

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Posted by Ima Oldman on July 18, 2016 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Charleston can't handle an influx of new residents

Where's the insight here people? Say? Tell us something we don't know. Do not give this article esteem. Expect more from a columnist called Mat Catastrophe.

Use that 'PRESS' badge. This is a News+Opinion piece...what is your opinion? That this article was even posted and then heralded by the community shows that we have a lack accountability to our city as its citizens.

Mat Cat, man, do better. I think you can. Or CP, let this guy write what he really wants. It's a waste of your platform in the community to publish something like this. Take a chance, or you'll be just another entertaining/cutesy blurbist...talk about saturation.

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Posted by one idiot on July 18, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Laura,
There are laws that prohibit carrying a concealed weapon while drinking in public. Might want to learn your laws first before you ask for more.

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Posted by redblood on July 18, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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