As the Scarlet Pimpernel used to say: "Standards Standards"
"It shall be the responsibility of Late Night Entertainment Establishment personel (sic) to clear..."
That last word is very problematic. Are these bouncers going to be able to use batons and truncheonst? CS gas? Tasers? How about leashed snarling dogs?
Police are a legitimate use of tax funds. And these businesses definitely pay taxes.
idiots and hypocrites... CCL lied and said they would take this to court repeatedly if the county & state ever came up with the $$$ for the project. Why waste taxpayer $$$ for Mom Nature to wipe their a$$ again as before?
M Catastrophe should just change the title of his column to "Trolling the Libertarians"
IDK, all for increased safety here.
But this ordinance stinks of the City Powers That Be tendency to sterilize King of any flavor or character.
Much of Lower King could be a minimall anywhere.
Upper King has a vibrant and diverse mix that attracts crowds. Silly me,I always thought sidewalks were for hanging out. And what about the buskers and street musicians? There were some on Upper King tonight. They add great vibes to the street scene. Will that be illegal too?
FWIW, Savannah and Asheville have great and much more street music and atmosphere in and around bars.
Charleston finally starts loosening up but noooo have to put the Smackdown on that!
The City won't be happy until all of King is the soulless wasteland that much of South of Calhoun is. All so Edna and Al Fannypack of Ohio can feel "safe" waddling up King.
I guess the City will just ban bars next and install a KOA campground instead.
HUH?
Travis have u been to upper King, at 1:30 on a Saturday night lately? Not trying to pick an argument, but I would like to know.
These companies you see advertising all sorts of medical products (catheters, diabetic supplies, ED products, scooters, etc.) on TV are making money hand over fist and every penny is coming from the 50% paying taxes!
Here's how it works ... They charge Medicare patients the $100 annual deductible, I think $0 for Medicaid, and say they require the client 20% co-pay, but most waive that under the guise of a "hardship" waiver. They then pocket the Medicare allowable. People paying the extra 20% are suckers and that's more profit to the supply company. If you call them and say you want to pay cash they refer you to another company. You call that company and get quoted a significantly lower cash price. This other company is owned by the same people, but they keep cash transactions separate from insurance so they don't get caught charging far less to the cash customers. The Medicare allowable is much more than the cash price, which also has a huge profit margin. There is no telling how much profit they are making on insurance based transactions. It's absolutely obscene I'm sure!!
The scooters you see on TV cost $40 to $60k each. A basic wheelchair can easily cost $2 to $5k. Yet you can but a luxury car for under $40k and a bicycle for $100.
Why are scooters & wheelchairs so expensive? Medicare, Medcaid, & other forms of insurance. Get the gubment out of medical & insurance transactions and the cost of these items would be pennies on the dollar compared to current costs.
Wanna know why the SEC never catches big Wall Street banks breaking the law? They don't want to. Go work for the SEC for 5 years then parlay that into a cushy high 6 figure salary at Goldman Sachs.
The bigger, more far reaching, and intrusive gubment is, the more opportunity there is for corruption and easier it is to get away with it.
When the banking crisis happened guess who was a high ranking executive at FannieMae? Barney Franks boyfriend!! And Frank was chairman of the powerful Banking Committee, which has oversight of the GSE's like Fannie & Freddie. And Frank constantly cried foul for years as the Bush administration warned of a coming banking & housing collapse. Then the Dems blamed Bush!!
Statism? It's the opposite of "statism." This is the privatization of a basic government function. Isn't this the stuff your libertarian wet dreams are made of?
Also, the ordinance gives the responsibility to the establishment to police the sidewalks and parking lots, but it doesn't require that that function be performed by an employee. I'm sure the responsibility (and probably any associated liabilities) can be contracted out. This ordinance looks like a great opportunity for someone looking to start a security firm.
It is interesting to note that, it is the city's smoking ban which is putting so many people on a narrow stretch of concrete in front of AC's, which was a popular smoking bar long before upper King became so wildly popular.
But there is a problem, please anyone take a stroll up King St at 1:30am on any Saturday before you disagree. In the long run closing King to traffic on certain nights from Cannon to Radcliffe may be the only solution.
I do have to agree with Haire on the gist of his article; if the police can barely contain the drunken masses (which is true, I've seen it), how can private enforcement hope to cope short of cracking skulls like security at a Stones concert?
Good points Ned. I think it is important to point out that the P&C article was specifically referencing what hospitals bill Medicare. No mention of it, but I assume it is the same for Medicaid, which is free medical care for the professional poor.
For reference regarding Trident Medical being crooks, let me share my experience. Last summer my collar bone was broken in an accident in Mt Pleasant. The emergency room visit ending up costing me $2,300, and here's the rub. It was a bad break which required surgery, so they did nothing. Understandable, but that kind of money seems like a lot for a doctor spending less than 10 minutes on me and providing a recommendation.
So my private practice ortho specialist normally preforms surgeries at the Trident East Cooper facility. His bill for the surgery was slightly under 2k, the anesthesiologist charged $750. Both reasonable prices.
The price Trident wished to charge me for JUST the room for a 2 hour outpatient surgery?...15,300$ !!! Is it just me or does that seem a bit extreme?
If I were on medicare or medicaid that ridiculous bill would have gone directly to the taxpayers.
In this morning's P&C, big article about the how closing the sidewalks around hospitals has forced smokers into parks and neighborhoods to smoke.
Huh.
Who could have seen that coming?
Here's my question: If the city has such power over the sidewalks, why is it abdicating that same responsibility when it comes to bars? Will Hanks have to have same requirements as AC's.
Statism's really cool until it affects you, eh?
IF the bars have to provide that service in conjunction with the officers, then I'm all for it. A bit of shared responsibility between the city and the "Late Night Entertainment Establishment" would be a good thing.
I hope the same rules apply for the Spoleto events too?
Did city council not just vote against providing the "entertainment" areas with extra police? I believe they did......
If we can enforce the drinking age we would be A-Ok. Bars that do it, do not have issues nearly as much as the bars that do not.
And as far as the line about lawsuits, and frantic 911 calls "THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING"
You are correct. Drunks are not the most reasonable people to speak with. You will either have bar security getting hurt or stepping over the line and hurting a drunk. Either way the Police will need to come anyway.
Are we now clear on "White Flight"?
Let us not also forget about the hoplophobic, neo-segregationist bigotry in government schools. Zero tolerance/intelligence teachers and administrators punishing children, and sometimes calling the police, for children who are drawing a picture of a firearm, or having paper folded like a firearm, or chewing a poptart into the shape of a firearm. That's like punishing a child for violating racial segregation laws for bringing a black crayon to school. The teachers and administrators who punished kids for the "offenses" above, are, literally, mentally infirm, and need to have their mental capacity tested by a licensed psychologist, before they are allowed to be near children again. Any children the offending teachers or administrators may have should be kept safe by the state until such tests can be performed. This is what Neale Bortz means when he says that government schooling is child abuse.
There are editions of this book available without this content, which the author apparently didn't want to have published. I understand the book is old and it takes controversy to get headlines, but it was a valuable document before. It's fun to run this through the mill of media commentary and controversy, but now every school district in the country has to deal with the collateral damage. I'm not sure it is worth it.
The present system is anti-White. Especially the US educational system. I was a teacher briefly and had to get out of it. I couldn't stand the bias. I feel sorry for young White students who have to suffer this sort of system. It's wrong. I would never put my own children in a public school. It's cruel to do so when they will surely be subjected to anti-White propaganda as well as racial harassment from non-White students.
Re: “School of the Arts tweet exposes Charleston County Schools' hypocrisy”
Tara hits the nail on the head as she always does.
Public schools are nothing more than communist indoctrination camps. Period.