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Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

Publix has signed to build a grocery in the WestEdge development, near where Crosby Seafood was. Should be open within 2 years. North Charleston tonight is considering a contract which includes a grocery at Shipwatch Square, McMillan and Rivers. Mt. Pleasant, with its $90,000/family income, is an attractive target market for grocery stores of all stripes. Pleased to have Publix, H/T, and Bi-Lo all on the way to my house.

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Posted by islander828 on September 15, 2016 at 9:57 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

spartan, if you can't comment with any better than third grade English get a tutor, and by the way, Johns Island has a Harris Teeter , a BiLo and a Food Lion, and per capita that's more groceries than Mt Pleasant has

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Posted by Ima Oldman on September 15, 2016 at 5:50 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

"how it makes sense"? take an economics 101 course. using the vernacular of your fellow kumbaya types why not "act locally" to make a difference and take Mr. Holmes into your whitebread Pleasantville home. Oh wait, that would require real action not just spewing vomit of remorse for us all to read. I understand your guilt, I would too with all the gluttony and self interest on that side of the cooper. You're a victim of your decisions, social mobility, and "keeping up with the Jones'".

there are only two grocery stores on all of Johns Island, one of which is basically on Kiawah. How do we do it? Oh the fucking horror.

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Posted by ncspartan on September 15, 2016 at 4:43 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

I'm not sure why you're under the impression that all grocery store chains are European Ran but I, for one, know that Publix is 100% American ran, owned and operated. They do a lot of good in my community but maybe that just takes someone seeing and listening to what good these businesses are doing to give back.

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Posted by kendalpaige on September 15, 2016 at 4:14 PM

Re: “Denmark Vesey Was a Terrorist

Reconstruction wasn't punishment enough?
U need to read a book. Theft of life, property, liberty, food, monies, etc. is not punishment enough.
Why do you think people in the South rose up and said ENOUGH.
If it had been done like Lincoln wanted it to be done that would not have happened.

Posted by Ronald Sandidge on September 15, 2016 at 4:12 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

It's all good to write eloquently about problems. It is even better to actively solve them. I'm from Satellite Beach, Florida. We got tired of out of state, and foreign investors ruining our beaches with their condos. It's a $100 state fine to pick a sea oat, but the county issued permits to developers to bulldoze entire dune lines.

We had a lot to complain about, but it fell on deaf ears in regional government. Do like we did, organize everyone in town to buy the property. Now, market forces have no influence. We set our property aside as natural shoreline for our descendants and visitors to enjoy. You can set yours aside for a fine market.

Let me know if I can help.

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Posted by Chip Curry on September 15, 2016 at 2:47 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

Six grocery stores? Within the distance from Whole Foods to the Ben Sawyer Publix there is also another Publix, another Bi-Lo, and Wal-Mart as well.

But here's the rub: grocery stores operate on thin margins, I've read 1-3% in general. Commercial rent in Mount P is high, but downtown it is astronomical. Bits Of Lace is a perfect example of that. Then you have to balance out shrinkage with security and personnel. Bi-Lo on Meeting and Food Lion on upper King regularly had police presence as well as visible security details whenever I've gone there no doubt for that reason. Mount Pleasant clearly offers a favorable situation for grocers with high sales and low losses to the food deserts spanning swaths of Charleston, proper and North.

That being said; Bi-Lo has not released any statement about why they closed, and if it was shrinkage I think they'd just say so.

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Posted by factoryconnection on September 15, 2016 at 1:34 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Dabo catches heat for MLK statements; I-526 still alive?; S.C. scrambles for ACC/NCAA events

People have a problem with what Dabo said about Martin Luther King's dream? Well, maybe it just works against their narrative of America to acknowledge the progress that we have made and are continuing to make. Or, maybe they are just petty and trifling.

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Posted by Chip Curry on September 15, 2016 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

David Jervey Ingle, I admire your optimism, but ain't no profit in a corner grocery. Stop in at any of your favorites and ask the owner about his profit. His merchandise costs are much higher than the chains and the chains scrape by on razor-thin margins because of sheer volume. Your corner store has to have substantially higher prices just to survive, and given the choice, most people will spend their food budget where they can get the most for their money. Corner groceries are like family farms - you run the business because you love it, but for the same time and effort you'll make more money working in a factory.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on September 15, 2016 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

Another column that means absolutely nothing. The title is "Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown" yet comparison is not made, rather an indictment is made on Mt. Pleasant. And while I take delight in bashing Mt. Pleasant at any opportunity, at least I try to be fair and honest. "The huge (mostly European) corporations that own these grocery chains" - in a 2 minute check on Google I found that the parent companies of BiLo, Publix, Harris Teeter, Whole Foods and Trader Joe's are based in Texas, Florida, Ohio, Texas and California. Only Aldi is European. Just another narcissistic column from a "caring activist"

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Posted by Ima Oldman on September 15, 2016 at 12:44 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

1. Eminent domain happens and it's a legitimate government process - otherwise we wouldn't have coherent road systems (among other things). He was not "pushed out" without getting paid for the house.

2. Who granted you your "middle/upper class privilege"? Who controls the privilege allocations? Can I apply online or is there paperwork?

3. "When we question this disparity, we're fed the same bland mush: market forces, zoning issues, blah, blah, blah." This is like complaining that you can't jump out of an airplane in flight because of the same bland mush: gravity, terminal velocity, fatal impact, blah, blah, blah. That's how businesses, which is what you are talking about, work. You are, of course, free to start a business that meets the goals you want.

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Posted by Cid95 1 on September 15, 2016 at 12:09 PM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

There is an answer....it's called the corner grocery. Once so popular in all towns. What's old is new again! There is profit for owners and profit for neighborhoods. Hopefully developers, real estate folks will see the benefit for all.
DJI

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Posted by David Jervey Ingle on September 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM

Re: “Disparity down the grocery aisles of Mt. Pleasant vs. Downtown

Great article, very well written, and a very important issue. Thanks Stephanie Hunt.

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Posted by Philip Cohen on September 15, 2016 at 10:27 AM

Re: “A cat cafe — are you kidding me?

I don't understand all this anger and sarcasm! You don't want to go to the cat cafe don't go! Why would you criticize people who are trying to work. To find a creative way to make a living instead of depending on their parents or government to take care of them! Don't we always tell people to follow their dreams! Find something you love! Then when they do and it doesn't fit our mold it is stupid!!? Come on people!!

Posted by Melinda Adkins Young on September 15, 2016 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Trigger warnings are an insult to students' intelligence

Isn't there a difference in "Warning: Graphic Material" and a "trigger warning?" I thought trigger warnings were to help keep people from seeing things that would send them into an episode, like warning any person with epilepsy that a video/movie/production contains flashing lights or other aspects that would cause them to have an epileptic seizure. Or warning Vets that "this video contains real footage of gory war" and could cause them to have a violent PTSD panic attack. Warning me about graphic material is totally different; "Warning: This video contains graphic material of abused animals." Sure, I can handle it, but it's nice to know ahead of time what you're about to show me. In that event, yes, professors (and plenty of other people) are using the phrase "trigger warning" interchangeably with "there are some dead people pictures on this slide" and I can understand the frustration with the over-usage.

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Posted by Alexis Beshures on September 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Charleston police chief unveils final plan for Illumination Project

maybe try not shooting citizens in the back and being dicks to the people who pay you. #illuminateyourdamnselves

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Posted by ncspartan on September 14, 2016 at 7:21 PM
Posted by tupper29406 on September 14, 2016 at 7:11 PM

Re: “What can be done to fill the Eastside's grocery gap?

on the heels of your stories addressing the fact that there are restaurants not opening (the Asian woman who was on your cover who had won some TV cooking show) and those who are closing because of a lack of staff (Two Boroughs) it may be time for simple economics. people who work in the hotels and restaurants can no longer afford to live downtown. go a step forward. no workers living in the area means no people to shop at grocery stores. visitors in hotels and air bnb's don't shop at grocery stores. the only thing that will slow this is when there are not enough people to staff the hotels and THEY have to close. maybe we can all move into the hotels. Then the market drives someone to open a new grocery store to satisfy the demand.

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Posted by ncspartan on September 14, 2016 at 6:45 PM

Re: “Escaping to Charleston's mother colony, Barbados

Great article. I do want to point out that BRIDGETOWN is the capital of Barbados, NOT Bridgeport. Also, the Saharan dust makes the view on the EAST Coast hazy NOT the West Coast.

Posted by Jeannette Carrington on September 14, 2016 at 5:26 PM

Re: “What can be done to fill the Eastside's grocery gap?

BiLo killed that store. Prices almost as high as Harris-Teeter, food not as good. Pathetic bread selection, non-existent cheese & deli items, and they threw out the fried chicken recipe. Along with most of the great people who worked there at the Pig.
BiLo spent months refusing to ticket non-shoppers cars. The lot was full (construction workers and students), but the store was empty (no place for shoppers to park). In the time it took to park, it was easier to drive to Food Lion or Doschers.

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Posted by ImFromHere on September 14, 2016 at 11:40 AM
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