I posted a comment with my own words and no link here this morning but it is gone. Have I been censured or banned from further comment? Are you a trump supporter and that is why my first amendment rights are being shut down? That would make sense because trump is a dictator in disguise? Inquiring minds want to know.
Thank you for writing this article. It took a lot of courage given the unbridled anger spewing from many of the above individual comments from the Industry.
This is a self-regulated Industry in Charleston (check out the ordinance). The City does sporadic monitoring by an employee who has no veterinary science nor equine training and is only a part-time monitor. The City Vet is a fertility expert who works in Aiken, hardly someone who has experience with draft horses working in urban environments.
An Independent, Peer review evaluation needs to be conducted on this Industry. CAS has offered to pay for this study.
If the Industry has nothing to hide, then they should welcome an Independent Peer Review evaluation!
PS: The slaughter scare is simply not true. These horses could be adopted by caring equine owners in South Carolina within days; its been done on several occasions when the Industry allows these horses to be offered to equine owners rather than shipped off to slaughter. So please, don't fall for that scare tactic!
Hey Philip Michael - when you're finished with your head shots, take some time to attend journalism school. What a BS article. I'm an animal lover too, but it's easy to see that these horses are cared for and treated well.
The carriage tours are an excellent way to not just tour, but learn about the Holy City and it's history. We've taken several carriage tours over the years and have never seen a horse that was poorly treated, unhealthy or in distress. We've learned something new about Charleston with each carriage tour.
Yes, Charleston summers are hot and humid - but many of the streets have plenty of shade. The carriages stop often (allows the horse to rest) and the horses stroll at an easy pace. On our last carriage (in 2013), the carriage driver explained (at length) how the horses are on rotation between tours and the farm - to rest.
Did you actually suggest taking a tour in a car to see the city? "Stopping to get out whenever you want...". Hey - why not busses? Pollution, more traffic, safety issues....great idea.
Do your homework, like a a real journalist should.
Charleston City Paper - we'd expect more from you than this.
What an idiotic article. Maybe you should be the one looking for a job. If I were your editor you would be. Also I just moved here. I love it here. I assure you however CHARLESTON is not the world destination you make it out to be.
It's time for drastic change and I applaud your article. We Charlestonians and long term residents have spoken out against the carriage industry and for reform for years to silence. I for one am sick and tired of the screamers in the industry misleading everyone on what's humane and not humane in this outdated industry. Just do away with it altogether!
That guy is black? He's got straight hair. I at first assumed he might be Hispanic or Indian or something like that. Then I read the inscription 3. Don't be black. I mean, very few black men straighten their hair. Among women, it is much more common. But with such short hair, I assumed the person is male.
On the other hand, the cop looks more normal, he looks like a white male. Perhaps a white Hispanic, his hair is black. But his eyes don't look East Asian, but white. Maybe Mediterranean white, like Arab or south Italian, with that black hair. But still recognizably white. He could have a little black ancestry, or Indian, or something, but still, very predominantly white. Though no people are racially pure. But predominantly black men with straight hair must be extremely rare, except if artificially straightened with chemicals. Of course some people in India are extremely dark but have straight hair, but they are not called blacks, that is reserved for people with African origin. The very dark people of India are racially different from similarly dark people from Africa. Likewise some Australian aborigines are very dark and often have straight hair, but they are not typically called blacks, but aborigines. And of course very few of them have immigrated to America. Though in Australia they are often treated badly by cops, so it is similar. Quite a significant percentage of them are criminal, due to poverty, so many cops treat them all with suspicion, like many cops in America treat blacks. It is very sad, and of course in both cases it causes many of them to dislike police, and quite often not even report crimes. So Trump's advocacy of stop and frisk policies, like what has been banned in New York, but still practiced in some places, it is very dangerous. People should not be stopped when they are not doing anything suspicious, just because they look black or Hispanic or American Indian, or aborigine or something. That is not the way to improve community relations with cops.
So I agree with the general message of the cartoon, even if the specific situation is not realistic, the cop is close enough to recognize it is a camera, not a gun.
Factoryconnection, I can agree with you that people who sell livestock meat can't be very concerned with animal welfare. And the way pigs or chickens are so often terribly crowded on farms, it is not very humane, even if one thinks they are slaughtered humanely, which sometimes they are not. And many such farm animals are fed antibiotics even if they are healthy, just to make them grow more, or to avoid infections because they are so crowded together. That just makes antibiotics so overused, more and more bacteria are becoming immune to them, so then infections will be in the future hard or impossible to treat. This use of antibiotics needs to be banned. They should be used only for emergencies. And as far as environmental reasons, since farm animals consume so much food, it just makes global warming much worse and there are other environmental problems with it.
So for all these reasons, our government should discourage the eating of livestock and poultry, by taxing it heavily. Besides, many foods are much healthier to eat than meat. Then if Mr. Cohen and other people want to continue the slaughter of animals, they can raise the price of meat steeply because of the taxes, and our country will benefit. And poor people will eat more healthy fruits and vegetables, and less meat. Like centuries ago, when meat was a luxury, eaten rarely by most people.
We need to ban companies from asking about the arrest or conviction history of prospective employees, except for jobs that require high security or jobs working with children. But for other jobs, people who left the prison and are trying to turn their lives around and not commit any more crimes, they need the opportunity to get the jobs and not be discriminated against. I am lucky that I was not influenced by bad people to be getting drunk or do other drugs, but other people are not that lucky. Lots of kids break the law in their teens or twenties, before they become wiser. And none of us are sinless, like who among us has not been in a fight as a child? So if we have not committed any crimes or misdemeanors, we are lucky, we have had good influences rather than bad influences. When bad kids become wiser adults, turn their lives around, they need jobs.
another government bail out of a failure, just because! When does it stop?
How fun, the Beach Company gets to rape the Lowcountry with the approval of the politicians in search of a dolla.
That Firefighter Jamie Brock is a true hero and all of us could take a lesson from his bravery. Somebody starts shooting somebody tackle them ,hit them, run them over,shoot ,stab,seriously injure with a stick!!!
Anything, just stop running away from them. That feeds the psychos power . His actions saved a lot of young lives, the more this happens the more we need heroes to stop it. Brave men and women who act fast and at great risk. The more of these out there the less psychos will think they can get away with it.
This is not the land of the flee its the home of the brave.
I'm not saying don't be smart and situationally aware just dont be a chicken shit either.
He should get a freaking statue in his honor.
God Bless America and God bless this guy and everyone who acted so bravely to protect these children.
Please pray for the injured.
I'm all for ensuring that the carriage tour companies are held to high standards of humane and proper care of their animals. It isn't 1890 any more; horses don't need to be worked into the ground, after all. But it is a practice that can be done properly and likely is for the most part in our city On the other hand, given that Mr. Cohen makes his actual (and prodigious by his own account) living selling the delectably seared flesh of former livestock, I wonder how committed he is to animal welfare if it came down to eliminating his own industry's lifeblood.
If traffic downtown is the primary concern, then there are major systematic changes that could be implemented to reduce the number of cars entering the peninsula daily.
Sexism at it's finest:
I agree with you in some respects, however the person who pointed out that the horses would be killed if the carriage tours ended is correct. Rather than ending the practice all together, I wish the carriage tour owners would take the horses off the streets from 12-5 in the summer months or whenever it's 90 degrees or more. At that temperature, the pavement is probably at least 110, too hot for the horses.
Additionally, I would love to see fewer cars, perhaps making King Street pedestrian-only? Susan Sellers
Lets make a deal. The horses can stay IF y'all can get rid of the damn buckeyes, especially the jumbo sized new balance wearing ones. I'll even quit yelling at all y'all when the damn things let loose with a 20 gallon wizz in front of my house if you do that.
DUDE! If the sea rises 4.5 feet, I'll be creek front with a deep water dock!! I'm selling my Toyota and buying an SUV. This weekend, I'm going to bust open cans of freon!! This can't happen fast enough. Unfortunately, the creek hasn't risen a bit in the ten years that I've lived in my house, so I doesn't look like it's going to happen :(
Tupper, no more copying and pasting article excerpts, please.
He manufactures nothing in the US but screams we should bring manufacturing back to the US. Both sides of his mouth run-on independently while he violates embargos to make himself more of a one-percenter:
REPORT: Trump Violated US Trade Embargo On Cuba
September 29, 2016 2016 Election, Business, Scandal
Newsweek reports: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/donald-…
A company controlled by Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president, secretly conducted business in Communist Cuba during Fidel Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump executives, internal company records and court filings.
Documents show that the Trump company spent a minimum of $68,000 for its 1998 foray into Cuba at a time when the corporate expenditure of even a penny in the Caribbean country was prohibited without U.S. government approval. But the company did not spend the money directly. Instead, with Trump’s knowledge, executives funneled the cash for the Cuba trip through an American consulting firm called Seven Arrows Investment and Development Corp. Once the business consultants traveled to the island and incurred the expenses for the venture, Seven Arrows instructed senior officers with Trump’s company—then called Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts—how to make it appear legal by linking it after the fact to a charitable effort.
The payment by Trump Hotels came just before the New York business mogul launched his first bid for the White House, seeking the nomination of the Reform Party. On his first day of the campaign, he traveled to Miami, where he spoke to a group of Cuban-Americans, a critical voting bloc in the swing state. Trump vowed to maintain the embargo and never spend his or his companies’ money in Cuba until Fidel Castro was removed from power. He did not disclose that, seven months earlier, Trump Hotels already had reimbursed its consultants for the money they spent on their secret business trip to Havana.
Randall Floyd, if Ron Liberte really loved Obama and Hillary, he wouldn't be fat shaming women like Trump does. What is it with anti carriage people and fat shaming? Are skinny people not allowed to be tourists?
Ron Liberte — BLESS YOUR HEART. My family hails from Ohio. When I next visit Charleston, be careful that I don't put my three inch high heel in your backside. (After I take a carriage ride and eat a pound of shrimp grits washed down with RC Cola, of course.)
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