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Re: “New Sgt. Jasper plan: Taller, with fewer apartments and no grocery

Has the Beach Company finalized the paperwork to change their name to Fuck You Enterprises?

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Posted by Pronghorn on April 14, 2015 at 11:29 PM

Re: “The Walter Scott murder only increases the mistrust between the black community and police

I guess since Kearney is a 'Guest Columnist' his column does not have a title.

Too bad. I suggest 'Black Perspective'. Or maybe 'I'm Black!'

It's pretty hard to take seriously the comments of anyone who writes a column about Charleston's failure to embrace 'Hip-Hop Culture'. Please.

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Posted by Todd Gaines on April 14, 2015 at 10:33 PM

Re: “#BlackLivesMatterCHS: What they want

Black lives don't seem to matter until there is politics involved. How many are killed in between the high profile race events. Does anyone even pretend to care.

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Posted by martin stuart on April 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM

Re: “Walter Scott attended program for dads who are behind on child support payment

If you are behind on your child support payments, you should be locked up or your possessions should be taken away. Ask a single mom who has panic attacks in the middle of the night if it is fair that her ex can come and go as he wants while she worries where she will find enough money to feed, cloth and shelter the kids. Do you take your sick kid to the dr when you can't afford the visit or the medicine? She is the one that has to say no. She is the one that has to go to work when she has been up all night with a sick child. She is the one who has a limited job selection because she has to be home during certain hours to take care of the kids. She can't travel for work and get that higher paying job! She is the one who has to run around and look for sales. Scott had FOUR kids! His number one priority should have been to provide for those children. He wasn't there 24/7 taking care of them. Did he deserve to be shot - no. Should he have ran - no. Should he go to jail if he is behind in child support? Absolutely.

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Posted by Charlotte James on April 14, 2015 at 9:44 PM

Re: “New Sgt. Jasper plan: Taller, with fewer apartments and no grocery

At least it's downtown and not on James Island.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on April 14, 2015 at 9:19 PM

Re: “New Sgt. Jasper plan: Taller, with fewer apartments and no grocery

Don't worry about where to park, because Lockwood/Broad will be a parking lot for the next several years while they develop this monstrosity and disrupt the lives of thousands of people to satisfy their own greed.

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Posted by Todd Gaines on April 14, 2015 at 9:15 PM

Re: “New Sgt. Jasper plan: Taller, with fewer apartments and no grocery

I do like a good implosion.

Posted by factoryconnection on April 14, 2015 at 9:00 PM

Re: “New Sgt. Jasper plan: Taller, with fewer apartments and no grocery

So when do they blow the current one up? And are we allowed to park on the connector to watch or do we have to view the demolition from our boats?

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Posted by warwit on April 14, 2015 at 8:44 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

Dimitri..maybe when one endeavors to make change or inform thru nonviolent means. It might help to know as much as possible about the man who is generally thought to be the first to use the principle of nonviolence in the political field on a large scale
Non-violent marches will go a long way to winning support and informing people if you don't begin by alienating those that you choose to inform.
Mahatma Gandhi invented Satyagraha. "Adherence to truth" is that it seeks to eliminate antagonisms without harming the antagonists themselves and seeks to transform or "purify" it to a higher level.
A euphemism sometimes used for Satyagraha is that it is a "silent force" or a "soul force" (a term also used by Martin Luther King Jr. during his famous "I Have a Dream" speech). It arms the individual with moral power rather than physical power. Satyagraha is also termed a "universal force", as it essentially "makes no distinction between kinsmen and strangers, young and old, man and woman, friend and foe."
Gandhi wrote: "There must be no impatience, no barbarity, no insolence, no undue pressure. If we want to cultivate a true spirit of democracy, we cannot afford to be intolerant.
" Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause."
Civil disobedience and nonco-operation as practised under Satyagraha are based on the "law of suffering", a doctrine that the endurance of suffering is a means to an end. This end usually implies a moral upliftment or progress of an individual or society.
Therefore, nonco-operation in Satyagraha is in fact a means to secure the co-operation of the opponent consistently with truth and justice.

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Posted by artrogue on April 14, 2015 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

I've been involved in the Black Lives Matter Charleston group since it's formation last year. We are a very diverse group of people - all genders, all colors, all ages, all experiences, and many different ideas about how to bring about a more egalitarian society. Of course, we never expected to have the nation's attention focused on a sad incident in our community.

I'm sure everyone is familiar with that frustration you feel when you absolutely know something is true, but you can't get other people to recognize the truth. Fights break out because someone knows Chevy is better than Ford, or the Red Sox are better than the Yankees (they are), or that unarmed black men are being killed by police more than twice a week in America.

Especially among our younger members, that frustration leads toward a desire to wake Americans up from their complacency and MAKE them care. The question is, how do you get comfortable Americans to notice the discomfort of other Americans?

Disruptive protests are one attempt. Yes, they certainly do piss-off people trying to go about their daily lives. But they also keep the discussion alive if for no reason other than our news media thrives on conflict and little else. If television stories and Facebook posts are any indication of effectiveness, disruptive protests ARE effective. I'm guessing the average white American was pretty pissed-off about MLKJ's actions fifty years ago too.

Personally I question the effectiveness of disruptive protests at breaking a majority of complacent Americans out of their complacency to come join us. In MLKJ's time, it took the murders of people similar to the white majority to get the majority out of their complacency. I hope we don't have to go that far this time. I hope we can come up with an action that makes comfortable people eating hamburgers on the couch in front of the evening news, say "that's impressive what those people are doing. They're right. We can be better than this and I want to be a part of what they're doing."

If you have any ideas that could make that happen, I'm all ears.

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Posted by Dimitri Cherny on April 14, 2015 at 4:49 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

The truth is; the "officer" emptied his clip at an unarmed, fleeing man's back.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on April 14, 2015 at 4:46 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

I have yet to see any evidence or hear any evidence that the officer was a racist. I can't imagine that he left his home with the thought of killing someone that day. What happened is truly a horrible chain of events. One man dead a family devastated, another charged with murder his family devastated. Why can't we wait until we see the entire video and hear all of the testimony. I am neither excusing or condemning. I just would like to know the truth so that I can make an informed opinion.

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Posted by Carole Forsythe on April 14, 2015 at 4:15 PM

Re: “#BlackLivesMatterCHS: What they want

nofaith - That might possibly look like something at least resembling the facts if you squint just right and hit yourself in the head a few times.

The mayor offered a closed-door meeting to "some members or the organization". Not a public meeting to discuss policy with the leadership of the organization, which is the demand being made. A closed-door meeting is basically a giant fk you. It's an invitation to come by and discuss nothing, offered for the sole purpose of the mayor being able to say that he met with people and listened to their complaints, without having to commit to actually listening to anything, and with the defense of a closed door to hide his recalcitrance to the ideas presented.

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Posted by AlexM on April 14, 2015 at 3:18 PM

Re: “#BlackLivesMatterCHS: What they want

Keep in mind that it was mandated years ago that all cruisers have video/audio equipment installed. The State failed miserably at completing this mandate and maintaining that equipment if in fact it has even been completed. Now they will mandate body cameras which they will probably miserably fail at also. There needs to be a better process. I do not know of any equipment that can maintain power for a 8-10-12 hour shift continuously running or if that would even be advisable due to privacy laws.

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Posted by truthrus on April 14, 2015 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

Sorry democracy is NOT forcing YOUR will on others. It is not illegally blocking traffic ignoring the wants and needs of innocent citizens. It is NOT disrupting the operation of a private business during a peak service time. It is NOT forcing your will on people trying to enjoy a meal. There IS a democratic process to legally protest. Should the facts of the case change or shed a different light on the events will you and your activists take the walk of shame and equally boisterously admit your wrongs?

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Posted by truthrus on April 14, 2015 at 1:43 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Machinists measuring support; Sharpton urges nation to learn from Scott shooting; Home prices up

"the company has fueled enormous economic growth in the area"

Ah yes, the economic growth argument. It sounds good. Until people realize economic growth means things like more hotels that will price out working class residents, more traffic which will cause more damage to already crumbling roads, the expansion of 526 which will destroy the environment and only make traffic worse, and higher property taxes for those who can still afford to live here. And then everyone gets mad because their taxes are going up to pay for bullshit that they don't want and is not making their lives better.

But the taxes have to go up because the corporations need more handouts to provide more economic growth which will cause more problems for people to bitch about. Meanwhile no one is seeing an increase in their standard of living, the government is as broke as ever, but corporations like Boeing are enjoying record profits. Funny how that works.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Protests in wake of Walter Scott murder remind us what democracy looks like

Your idea of protest is not democracy. Showing up and being mad at the system for an afternoon changes nothing. It makes white people like you feel good about yourselves, but what is it going to accomplish?

You mention the activism that ended slavery. The people who ended slavery were vilified by mainstream society and spit on and beaten and murdered. Their descendants are still feeling the backlash of the end of slavery in the form of institutional and casual racism.

Are you really prepared to confront the system in that same manner? Are you willing to start a revolution that may cost you your job or social standing or even your life? No? Well I'm sure another column will solve the problem.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 14, 2015 at 12:04 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Machinists measuring support; Sharpton urges nation to learn from Scott shooting; Home prices up

Ummm those people actually doing the work are very well paid and the company has fueled enormous economic growth in the area. As a fucked up liberal I would think that you would be happy when the government invests in a business. Oh wait, I forgot, you would only be happy if the government owned all of the businesses. Because that has worked so well whenever it was attempted in the past.

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Posted by nofaith on April 14, 2015 at 11:49 AM

Re: “#BlackLivesMatterCHS: What they want

Citizen review boards are a good idea for police conduct in general, regardless of race. All of these people pushing for police wearing body cameras are correct, but police should not have control of the data the camera captures. They can't be trusted with it. The cameras should never be able to be turned off, and the video it collects needs to be uploaded to a server to which the police do not have access.

But as we saw with Eric Garner in NYC, even citizen review boards and video evidence do not always result in justice being served. Police brutality is a systemic problem in our country, but instead of addressing these problems, holding people accountable for abuses, and requiring higher standards for employment in these positions, we outfit them with equipment and weapons intended for the military. Should we really be surprised at the results?

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 14, 2015 at 11:48 AM

Re: “The Agenda: Machinists measuring support; Sharpton urges nation to learn from Scott shooting; Home prices up

"But, instead of looking at Charleston as top on the list from the start they will just start looking elsewhere when they want to expand."

Yes, Boeing will look at which state is offering them welfare to further their expansion. Because it's okay for corporations to get government handouts, but fuck the people actually doing the work.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 14, 2015 at 11:31 AM
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