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Re: “Eminent domain is a dangerous weapon for Charleston leaders to wield

Somewhere in your opinion piece is a thoughtful and meaningful discussion on how and when imminent domain should or should be used. It would have be far more interesting and educational to your readers to explore the process and the ultimate reasons why some properties are acquire while others are not. On top of that further exploration of how Charleston elected officials and the general public deal with these issues now and into the future considering the rapid growth of the city. Unfortunately, like most CCP pieces it goes for the easily out (and go to demon) by trotting out the Trump card, as if he has any to do our local decisions on public land use in the city. Does CCP require you writers to meet a Trump bash quote, ya'll seem more than a little obsessed.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on May 3, 2017 at 9:15 PM

Re: “Why didn't any white officials attend the Nehemiah Action?

Just because we didn't have another Ferguson, or Baltimore when the Emmanuel nine were murdered doesn't mean everything is fine here in the low country when it comes to racial divisions. Any politician worth their salt knows perception is nine tenths of reality. Not showing for an event like this gives the perception of indifference.

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Posted by Allen Bergstrazer on May 3, 2017 at 8:52 PM

Re: “The Science March was about politics — not science

CCP hopefully you aren't paying this Baltimore hack anything for these wandering pointless rants. Jeez, can't you get Haire to do this type of work? At least he had a sense of humor.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on May 3, 2017 at 8:14 PM

Re: “Why didn't any white officials attend the Nehemiah Action?

I attended this event for the first time. I found the discourse respectful and the questioning of those who did not answer "yes" or gave a qualified "yes" to also be respectful. There was no bullying of anyone. The absence of White elected officials was glaring and a real slap in the face to the talk of Unity in Charleston and North Charleston. If you cannot engage in open, honest and respectful dialogue, we cannot achieve healing, unity and progress!

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Posted by Laura J. Isenstein on May 3, 2017 at 6:13 PM
Posted by johnpauljah on May 3, 2017 at 5:33 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

If the town had continued to grow at the same density and character as the Old Village it would only consume a modest 21.55 square miles instead of the 45.28 it takes up now. Growth is not the issue, it's the pattern of that growth. The number of cars on the road isn't the issue, it's the length of the trip. Simple ideas but misunderstood by most people.

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Posted by bill e on May 3, 2017 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Why didn't any white officials attend the Nehemiah Action?

A beautifully written accurate description of what transpired. I was there simultaneously appalled and not surprised at the lack of representation among all officials regardless of color. If our elected officials choose to just "not show up" for such a vital community issue and can't take the heat, they should not be in public service, service being the operative word.

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Posted by Virginia Maxson on May 3, 2017 at 3:08 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

In Metro Atlanta there is a new bumper sticker popping up-" ATL is FUL. Go away. " As a person who was raised between Mt. P and Atlanta, I've watched the two become more and more alike over the past 42 years. How the hell can that be?! Even in the early 1990s there was no comparison- and that was the way it should be (imho). My Wando friends laughed when I said I loved shopping in Charleston- the Citadel Mall or The Omni shopping was ten times more pleasant than Atlanta (known to many as a shopping Mecca). But, apparently, Mt. P town organizers decided that people shopping in Charleston wasn't bringing in money to Mt. P. Did that start bc they wanted more money in the coffers to pay their salaries? Hmmm. That was the beginning of the end.... Spiraling ensued. Now when I drive down any road in Mt P that's not in the Old Village, I can hardly tell if I'm on Peachtree or Coleman Blvd.
It breaks my heart. I can still feel the sand all over my body and the wind in my hair as I ride home from Station 22 in the bed of a blue pick up truck, a few dogs and half a dozen cousins at my side. Ms. Bennett- it's not just nostalgia. It was a better time. It wasn't just my youth; my parents, aunts and uncles and grandparents would say the same thing. Almost anyone from Mt Pleasant back then would say the same thing. I'd like to know if there are more than 100 people- who are not profiting from the sprawl- who would say it's better now.

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Posted by Reachel Goodnight Emerson on May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

What can Charleston learn?
How about not to repeat history and stop plastering James Island with apartment complexes. The island is full.

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Posted by Sabine Schürg Dean on May 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

There are always more than one side to every story. Many of the challenges we face are well pointed out by our very talented planning commissioner Alys Campaigne. ""The backlash to growth threatens the very things long-time residents seek to preserve. Pushing for larger lot sizes, more parking, and limiting ADUs (accessory dwelling units) sends sprawling development to the suburban fringe and contributes to sky-rocketing costs of living. New high impact fees on businesses keep residents commuting beyond town limits to find work."

We see at every council meeting people who think they should be the last one invited into the community, and we have a Comprehensive Plan that encourages neighbor nodes, where you can live, work and play, but many new neighborhoods face resistance to interconnectivity. We need more places for people to work in town. The best quote I heard all year is, "you're not stuck in traffic, you are traffic." The issue with the Sweetgrass Overlay District for me is we are limiting the value of property that families owned for generations and now choose to sell. How is it fair for one person to have more development rights than other just because they are African American? I have a problem with that. I love being the Mayor during this challenging time because we are making strides to controlling growth and encoring the types of development that will make us better, but we can't just say no to everyone and send builders to our neighboring Town to the north, that will cripple us with even more traffic. We need to keep working together, especially on our next Comprehensive Plan, which is a community driven document that us helps us guide our future.

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Posted by on May 3, 2017 at 1:41 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

It should be mentioned that Thomasena Stokes-Marshall, while in council voted for The Boulevard and the Shem Creek parking garage/office building. She also voted to rezone the only affordable housing land back to regular residential zoning. This article is the type thinking that flooded Mount Pleasant with apartments. Apartments that were not built close to jobs so people could walk and bike to work. They were built for profit not the community.

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Posted by Joe Bustos on May 3, 2017 at 1:20 PM

Re: “Why didn't any white officials attend the Nehemiah Action?

Your predictable editorials are a weekly regurgitation of your favorite boogeyman, these nasty "white males" who seem to be the sole cause of all the area's (as well as state, nation and world) problems. And are you describing pale whites like them Irish, are you including those with tans say like Spanish or Italians or Greeks? Should we consider mixed race males as equally evil? These seem like ready bad people I want to look out for and avoid.

Can't wait to read you next week to see what trouble whitey is stirring up.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on May 3, 2017 at 12:53 PM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

Protest this Barrett woman.

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Posted by Amber Smith on May 3, 2017 at 11:59 AM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

It's because you didn't grow up here. I've watched this awesome little town become a huge disaster. It was fun and there was a ton of exciting things to do when I was younger. Now you can't go 5 minutes down the road with out getting stuck in some traffic. For folks that haven't been here for more than 20 years have no clue on what Mt pleasant used to be like. This is where I grew up and my roots are deep. But I go around every day finding it less desirable to want to stay. This is my home town and it always will. But I want my home town back!

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Posted by Andrew Long on May 3, 2017 at 11:44 AM

Re: “Confessions of a Southern Charm Newbie: The Pain of Memory

All I can say is wow. I was at a small fundraiser Friday night and met a nice young man, who will remain anonymous, and it turned out, he hangs out with most of these characters..and yes, that is what I call them that. Actually, Chelsea was there. She is very pretty. Sans Austen. Hmm. A charity event and he could not come with her?? It was downtown. Not expensive. He could not dish out the money for a good cause? I actually found out the crew is cheap. Oh Oh. But I got a mouthful and I was not surprised. If Landon and Thomas end up together, they deserve each other. I loved the week before when Thomas was at Stars, and a girl said "who is that old guy"? He does not realize his age because he does not hang out with people his own age. Doesn't he have any friends his own age for God' sake????? My Goodness. He still thinks he is 30. I know I am not 30 anymore. Not that I don't like talking to younger people. Age is just a number. But...there is a limit.

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Posted by lynnar on May 3, 2017 at 10:37 AM

Re: “Why didn't any white officials attend the Nehemiah Action?

"Many officials decline to attend because they view this format one that allows for zero waffling as akin to bullying. But this tense format is purposeful as it serves as a means of accountability"

I wouldn't entertain anyone if they can't be civil. You do not accomplish anything by waffling. I've experienced waffling, at these free for all town hall meetings.

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Posted by nicole brown on May 3, 2017 at 10:10 AM

Re: “Confessions of a Southern Charm Newbie: The Pain of Memory

Great recap.
These people all need to learn some basic manners and tact. O.o I know it's all for the show, but sincerely, kindness matters.
I love the HooDoo part of the episode! I grew up in Pinopolis, and in The Corner (Moncks Corner for you non-BC [Berkeley County] people) we had a HooDoo/VooDoo guy. He lived near the middle school. He had pie tins hanging from the tree in his front yard and a bottle tree, of course, ... he also sold liquor on Sundays, back during the Blue Law days. In order to be allowed to purchase said alcohol you had to know the password. The password was - you had to knock three times and say "fried chicken" three times. I know this because I, the SLED agent's daughter would go there with the Mayor's son and the Sherriff's son (the only one we were missing was the preacher's son, but he was a pussy) to purchase illegal drinks for all of us to indulge in whilst waterskiing in the Hatchery.
You gotta love the Lowcountry of SC!

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Posted by Robin Hillyer Miles on May 3, 2017 at 10:01 AM

Re: “What can Charleston learn from what East of the Cooper has lost?

Granted, I've only commuted to Mt. P, and only from in the mid-2000s, but I found mt pleasant to have no charm. Dive bars exist everywhere; that doesn't a town make. I found it to be exactly what was described by the author at vintage coffee - upper middle class white families with 2.5 kids who spend 3 hours a day in their cars and huge, sprawling neighborhoods with no connectivity and no way to walk or bike anywhere outside those neighborhoods. Commuter traffic (raises hand) is an absolute nightmare. Shem creek is a nice vista but you can't get inexpensive seafood or anything - just overpriced cocktails at new places like tavern and table. I'm sorry but I never got it.

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Posted by jennysays on May 3, 2017 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Choose Your Own Adventure: Lowcountry farmers markets

Thanks for the shout out City Paper, we love y'all! Please note that the Johns Island Farmers Market is going to Summer Hours of 9am-1pm starting this Saturday May 6th until it cools back off in the fall. Come support our 50+ farmers and vendors, the heat brings the best produce! Thanks...

Posted by Johns Island Farmers Market on May 3, 2017 at 9:17 AM

Re: “Eminent domain is a dangerous weapon for Charleston leaders to wield

Enjoyed your thoughts and well-reasoned piece on an issue that is now and will forever be half-hidden by the shroud of subjectivity. A municipality's use of eminent domain as a means to alter the landscape or facility in the name of "the public good," begs subjectivity, as one person's public good is another's detriment. I felt distracted by the comparison of Mayor Teckleburg with President Trump, for the obvious reasons and one I feel isn't so obvious I suppose.

In the case of both the Mayor and the President, they were elected fairly by a set and understood democratic process (tongue in cheek in the direction of Moscow notwithstanding). hat I'm saying is that you're damn right when you say "placing something as powerful as eminent domain in the realm of ambiguity puts great faith in the character of elected officials," but that's the very nature of our democracy, and why each of us should take our civic duty to do our best to elect the right people with a measure of gravity.

I'll close with one more thing your thought-provoking piece stirred in my memory. Though it wasn't technically achieved through the use of eminent domain, I'd be remiss not to remind you that a property at which you and I both love and spend a great deal of our time at might never have been without a Mayor deciding he knew best for the community. Should he never have carrot-and-sticked his way into seeing part of the Dill Plantation the James Island County Park might never have been. That land was originally deeded to a series of civic organizations but ended up in the hands of Charleston County after a Mayor Riley-conceived three-way agreement consolidated the many parts of the land as one, for the County to run, for the public good.

That said, enjoyed your article!

Charlie Morrison
James Island

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Posted by Charlie Morrison on May 3, 2017 at 9:14 AM
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