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Re: “Annie's Bistro is the real thing

Lovely review. They are most certainly missed here in Bethesda, Maryland. Look out for her seasonal specialties - her white bean soup is to die for (take one to go and put it in the freezer for a sick day, it is an amazing remedy!) and also the cassoulet. Ooohhh, the cassoulet. They let their customers know on social media when they start the preparation - which takes a few days to perfect. If you happen to dine there one evening when it is on the menu, go play the lottery that day as you just hit the jackpot! Miss you!! Xoxo Leslie

Posted by Leslie Shafer on August 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM

Re: “Scott Shor of Edmund's Oast reacts to Best New Restaurant nom from Bon Appetit

Scott is an all around nice guy. The picture was meant to be amusing and it is. Scott has worked really hard for the success he is now achieving - no slacking from him, so congrats to him and everyone at Edmund's Oast. He has accomplished what many in the F & B industry hope for but never quite reach and he has done it through unfaltering dedication and hard work. Plus he is one handsome bald and bearded rascal in that blazer.

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on August 19, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

Backstage Deli had several locations in town. From the early 80s and for more than ten years the locally owned chain specialized in simple but well made deli sandwichs and an extensive offering of beer. They carried more than 100 different beers from all over the nation and world. You could buy sixes to go.
Simply saying that the local love of good beer did not begin when some dude moved here from Michigan worked at arizona's and figured he would show us the way. umm ..sure thanks.

Posted by artrogue on August 19, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

Yeesssss. Liquid Gold. Weight Prob from beer = elastic waist pants - sweats - yoga outfits - always a good solution. Sweats and Yoga outfits give everybody the impression that I am trying to work out. More breweries please. More pale ales please. Like the proverbial bear - I am packing it on for my winter slumber. When I am trying to lose weight food is always the first thing to go.

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on August 19, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

And if I'm trying to lose weight drinking is the first thing to go.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"Alcohol is energy (calories). It doesn't matter what type of beer it comes in, more alcohol means more calories."
Of course. But beer is usually less than 10% alcohol, and there are plenty of ways to reduce calories in it.
For instance, I'm looking at a 16 oz. Miller Lite bottle, only 96 calories.
Compare that to this craft beer.
Also, in mixed drinks usually only about 100 calories from alcohol, the rest is from the mixers.
So if I drink beer it's light beer, and if I drink liquor it's with low cal mixer, such as diet coke.
Oops, now how did the lid get off of that bottle?

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 19, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

Most drinkers of craft beer, from my experience, like drinkers of better wine are not drinking to excess to get plastered. Not to say that they don't on occasion but when you hit a certain point you can't really taste and enjoy what it is you are spending so much extra money on.

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Posted by nofaith on August 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"Just because you and a few buddies brewed some beer in a garage, does not mean Charleston was progressing in the craft beer world. This article is about real craft progression, and sums it up fairly well."

This. As the article also points out, it was actually very hard for the normal beer loving consumer, who wasn't themselves a brewer, to find anything other than the national macros. This was just 6-8 years ago. Now, even many of the local corner stores will have a cooler or two with Oskar Blues, Sierra Nevada, and others.

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Posted by Pseudonova on August 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"If you are trying to lose or even maintain your normal weight, perhaps these are not the best choice."

If one has issues maintaining a healthy weight, alcohol is not a good choice. Alcohol is energy (calories). It doesn't matter what type of beer it comes in, more alcohol means more calories. That said, high residual sugar means added calories in beer. Therefore, if you are trying to limit calories in your booze, it is best to grab a low alcohol drier (crisp) beer like COAST Kolsch or Westbrook Gose. Many craft beers are lower in calories than most of the top cocktails.

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Posted by brewengineer on August 19, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

Just pointing out, Brew, that these craft beers are loaded with calories.
If you are trying to lose or even maintain your normal weight, perhaps these are not the best choice.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 19, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"Hipsters always think they invented the wheel."

Neither Mr. Baugh, nor the writer of this article, are anywhere close to being hipsters. Just because you and a few buddies brewed some beer in a garage, does not mean Charleston was progressing in the craft beer world. This article is about real craft progression, and sums it up fairly well.


"Enjoy your craft beer. Then, enjoy your trips to Wally World to buy bigger pants."

Everything in moderation. Remember, most craft beer drinkers aren't downing a bottle of Black Tuesday every night. Most of the time, lower alcohol (and thus lower calorie) session beers are the best choice.

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Posted by brewengineer on August 19, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

I appreciate the legal historical perspective; I knew there were issues that these brewers were facing.

The author makes reference to finding local brews on tap in many locations throughout the city. This process is not mature enough in Charleston. I hope that restaurants will fully mature the inclusion of local beer. Charlotte, NC has nine breweries. Olde Mecklenburg Brewery (OMB) is the oldest operator as both a brewpub and local distributor. Of the nine, OMB, NoDa, Birdsong and FourFriends can usually be found all over the city. If you go to the OMB website there is an accurate beer finder application. In the uptown/I-277 loop alone, OMB lists 75 restaurants carrying their beer -- and this includes everything from the venerable McNinch House to Hooter's. If I go to any of my neighborhood restaurants I will find one or more OMB offerings. But it gets better, I can also find at least one or two other of the local beers at the same location. One neighborhood haunt will always have OMB's flagship Copper available and, in addition, I could order NoDa's award winning HopDropNRoll IPA or a Birdsong LazyBirdBrownAle. If a restaurant in Charlotte has more than 4 taps, they probably have a Charlotte brew and very likely another North Carolina brew.

I can't wait till any place I go in Charleston, I can order a Holy City PluffMud Porter or a Westbrook OneClaw or a Palmetto Amber in the same place on the same day. Local supports local.

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Posted by SGm on August 19, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Re: “Scott Shor of Edmund's Oast reacts to Best New Restaurant nom from Bon Appetit

When I saw him Friday evening I gave him a smart ass compliment about his "fine" picture in this article and he chuckled. He said something to the effect of I look kind of silly standing next to the wall of books right outside the men's room with my chin up and beer in hand.

And yes, the food and drinks were amazing and while I can't afford to eat there all of the time it is a great special occasion restaurant to go to.

Posted by nofaith on August 19, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Scott Shor of Edmund's Oast reacts to Best New Restaurant nom from Bon Appetit

"But on to more important things: Yes, Scott Shor looks like a total douchebag in that picture. I don't think that was what he was going for, but it is what it is."

If you actually meet the man, and talk to him for a while, you will understand that there is nothing douchie about him. Dude is kind and fairly humble, and I am sure CCP set the picture up the way they thought looked best. As for the other conversation on this comments section, I only have this to say: Dafuq is wrong with you people? It's like we just hate on places for doing well and getting press here. Somehow it turned into an anthropological and sociological discussion.

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Posted by brewengineer on August 19, 2014 at 7:02 AM

Re: “Scott Shor of Edmund's Oast reacts to Best New Restaurant nom from Bon Appetit

And the further fetishization and crass marketing of the new "foodie" phenomenon becomes even more interesting as it just takes on the dimension of class warfare and hints of Nero fiddling.
Pass me the non-GMO heirloom smoked popcorn sprayed with truffle oil and layered with shaved Parmigiano-Reggiano while I enjoy the debate. Someone ask the beer sommelier for the correct pairing.

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Posted by landsnark on August 18, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Re: “Back-to-basics Rollin’ South Kitchen to open in old Sloppy Cow location on James Island

Hope they upgrade the nasty bathrooms.

Posted by Nemo on August 18, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

Enjoy your craft beer. Then, enjoy your trips to Wally World to buy bigger pants.
http://www.beeroftomorrow.com/calories-in-…

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on August 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"Hipsters always think they invented the wheel."

They didn't invent the wheel, they just redesigned it and you really wouldn't understand how they did it.

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Posted by nofaith on August 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

"But hailing from a more advance beer state..."
This is indeed a short history. Time always seems to start with as soon as someone moved here. Or maybe it is as far as the writer deems a likely starting point.
There have always been locations where one could get micro brews and really tasty beers as an alternative to the big companies. You just had to search a little harder. I was making my own ales and lagers in 1984...just giving it to friends.
There were plenty of people making their own beverages and relishing good flavor going back into the 70s. ... and of course it surely it goes back to the beginning of the colony as edmunds oast would show.

Not as much as now and nowhere as easy to obtain but certainly here for those
who cared or tried.

Going to Arizona's in the 90s was not gonna get you much except hanging out at a mainstream tourist bar.

Hipsters always think they invented the wheel.

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Posted by artrogue on August 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Re: “A short history of the Holy City's march toward homegrown beer

@spof76 Revelry Brewing Company just opened in The Neck.

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Posted by Pseudonova on August 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM
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