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Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

No, you are not getting it right.

Laws that regulate the concealed carry of firearms will only be follow by people that care about laws. People are carrying firearms every day in prohibited areas, drinking, committing acts of violence, etc. Neither existing laws nor new laws will change that.

The point is to not disarm law abiding people, nor to overly restrict their right to bear arms. We allow drinking and driving, for instance (up to a certain BAC). Some states apply the same BAC to concealed carry. Works for me - after all vehicles can be much more effective weapons as seen before, most recently in France.

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 2:32 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

"There are laws that prohibit carrying a concealed weapon while drinking in public."

Hmm, so the argument against gun laws is that then only outlaws will have guns, so the laws are bad....

But the law against drinking while carrying a weapon will always be followed? Am I getting this right?


"How come no Armed Big Big Bad Texans came to the rescue?"

Because they were too busy running away. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headl…

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Posted by mat catastrophe on July 18, 2016 at 12:39 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Larger ships in Charleston Harbor; Police looking for potential rally instigator

Mat - "You ever read much about the colonial revolution against Great Britain?"

Yes! I have. The lesson, from then to Turkey this week and every revolution in between, is that if you win you're a hero and if you lose you are traitor and might get hung.

If BLM can win, then they will be heroes.

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Ima - A firearm is not a magic talisman which protects one against harm. Every one of the murdered cops in the recent incidents had at least one firearm. Citizens have helped and will continue to help law enforcement personnel when situations arise. However, bad things will continue to happen unfortunately.

http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=290083…

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 11:55 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Don't forget the armed off-duty cop working the door ar Pulse in Orlando, Ima. He was a good guy with a gun -- a very good guy with a gun; ready to stop anything if it goes down.

He was overpowered and outgunned within seconds, though, and immediately had to call for backup.

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Posted by Pronghorn on July 18, 2016 at 11:48 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

It's just a resolution, a statement. It's not a law. Like all normal states, SC law is that local laws can't preempt state laws. They are free to make whatever statement or resolution they want. I am free to vote for whoever I want.

Laura: "I can assure you I am greatly aggrieved by people walking around in public, including bars where they might be expected to drink alcohol, with any kind of weapon they want any time and appreciate my elected representative petitioning the state government on my behalf."

You forgot one key word. LAWFULLY. In which case I'm happy to inform you that I know of zero incidents where LAWFULLY armed citizens have caused any harm in SC bars since the laws expanded to allow CWP carry in bars. Do you know of any? I stand to be corrected.

I do know of a mass shooting at a SC bar which was stopped by a LAWFULLY armed citizen just a month or so ago. Do you see the issue here? Criminals don't give a damn whether they are lawfully allowed to buy, sell, own or carry firearms. They are willing to murder their fellow citizens. That is what AGGRIEVES me. That is what should AGGRIEVE you.

http://www.wistv.com/story/32308903/deputi…

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Posted by Cid95 on July 18, 2016 at 11:41 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Hey did anybody notice the cop killings last week in Texas, the state with the lightest open carry laws in the country? How come no Armed Big Big Bad Texans came to the rescue? I thought that was the purpose of loosening carry laws... or in Louisiana? Or did you just mean you would open fire to protect private citizens, screw the cops?

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Posted by Ima Oldman on July 18, 2016 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Charleston can't handle an influx of new residents

Where's the insight here people? Say? Tell us something we don't know. Do not give this article esteem. Expect more from a columnist called Mat Catastrophe.

Use that 'PRESS' badge. This is a News+Opinion piece...what is your opinion? That this article was even posted and then heralded by the community shows that we have a lack accountability to our city as its citizens.

Mat Cat, man, do better. I think you can. Or CP, let this guy write what he really wants. It's a waste of your platform in the community to publish something like this. Take a chance, or you'll be just another entertaining/cutesy blurbist...talk about saturation.

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Posted by one idiot on July 18, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

Laura,
There are laws that prohibit carrying a concealed weapon while drinking in public. Might want to learn your laws first before you ask for more.

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Posted by redblood on July 18, 2016 at 9:32 AM

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I think we need to point out the supporters of this nonsense, name by name and make sure we draw attention to them at every opportunity. Every time they do something, be sure to refer to them has "GUN BAN SUPPORTER".This is political arrogance and we need to vote these people out as soon as possible.

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Posted by rmm911 on July 18, 2016 at 8:58 AM

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Sonia Faye says "Transplants change the character of the places they migrate too and turn them into the same cesspools that they escaped from in the first place. You come here for low taxes. Infrastructure increases taxes. Which do you want? Low taxes or infrastructure? Can't have it both ways."

This transplant didn't come here for low taxes - I came from Massachusetts - NOT a cesspool BTW - to escape winter snow and cold - period. I'd be happy to pay more in taxes to make infrastructure improvements and while I'm at it I'll throw in some extra for better schools.

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Posted by Mixbee on July 18, 2016 at 8:51 AM

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What seems like a million years ago, I taught you a childbirth education class in your home...you were pregnant with your beautiful Maybelle. I have followed your story through The City Paper. Continued prayers for healing, peace and comfort...and a wonderful summer. <3

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Posted by nchuckmomof3 on July 17, 2016 at 8:17 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

It would help if some of you actually read the article before posting stupid comments. They aren't banning anything, simply asking the state to consider it. NiteGoat, don't know what Constitution you're thinking about but the one I consult pretty regularly guarantees "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". Nowhere does it say local government is not "the people". I can assure you I am greatly agggrieved by people walking around in public, including bars where they might be expected to drink alcohol, with any kind of weapon they want any time and appreciate my elected representative petitioning the state government on my behalf.

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Posted by LauraMorris on July 17, 2016 at 7:51 PM

Re: “Charleston County Council will consider resolution opposing assault weapons

It would help if some of you actually read the article before posting stupid comments. They aren't banning anything, simply asking the state to consider it. NiteGoat, don't know what Constitution you're thinking about but the one I consult pretty regularly guarantees "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances". Nowhere does it say local government is not "the people". I can assure you I am greatly agggrieved by people walking around in public, including bars where they might be expected to drink alcohol, with any kind of weapon they want any time and appreciate my elected representative petitioning the state government on my behalf.

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Posted by LauraMorris on July 17, 2016 at 7:43 PM

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All those in favor...hope you enjoyed your time on Council, you will MOT be returning after the next election.

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Posted by The Super Saturn on July 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM

Re: “Charleston can't handle an influx of new residents

All of you idiots wanted it and ypu got it. Boeing put the quality of life in Charleston into the grave and Volvo is going to shovel the dirt on top to fill tbe hole.

Too late to start crying now...

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Posted by The Super Saturn on July 17, 2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Larger ships in Charleston Harbor; Police looking for potential rally instigator

ok so who was the douchbag that threw the brick? I hope they lock them up.

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Posted by zee on July 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Larger ships in Charleston Harbor; Police looking for potential rally instigator

No counseling needed for Prong, because he's right. Also Imma roll on Ignatz. Ignatz threw the brick, everybody knows that. Even when you O-bey the police many times bad things happen to young brown & black men all over the USA every single day. "They" are not all the same. "They" are angry and rightfully so. "They" do not all throw bricks just as not all police are bullies & bigots. Until Black Lives Matter as much as White Lives, "they" gonna keep on going. Let's be really honest, all lives should matter equally - but in reality they just don't right now. I hope this changes in my lifetime.

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Posted by CIACulinaryKid on July 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM

Re: “The Agenda: Larger ships in Charleston Harbor; Police looking for potential rally instigator

"The BLM protesters appear to be just any of many groups who do not obey police commands, take matters outside of their permitted actions, and then have someone throw a brick at the cops."

You ever read much about the colonial revolution against Great Britain?

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Posted by mat catastrophe on July 17, 2016 at 10:36 AM

Re: “Charleston can't handle an influx of new residents

check the local highways. at times of the day the traffic is >20-30% container trucks. SC's plan? dredge the rivers so larger ships can load an unload. All while they enjoy the nation's lowest gas prices. it's not LACK of focus, it's no focus whatsoever. And as long as the Beach Company has a stranglehold on local development that's not going to change either.

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Posted by ncspartan on July 16, 2016 at 7:43 PM
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