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Re: “How unsecured vehicles contribute to Charleston's gun thefts

How about if it's proven you say something false, you lose your right to free speech?

How about if it's proven your car was easily stolen because of your negligence, you lose the right to drive?

How about if it's proven you were easily raped because you were drunk and not able to clearly give or deny consent, you lose the right to accuse your rapist?

Or maybe we should blame the criminal and not the victim?

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Posted by Cid95 1 on September 8, 2016 at 12:44 AM

Re: “But the more things change, the more they stay the same

I would have guessed that CofC enrollment was much higher then vs now, only 619 more students?

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Posted by Cid95 1 on September 8, 2016 at 12:36 AM

Re: “But the more things change, the more they stay the same

Joe Riley spent years insisting on keeping jobs on the peninsula. The feds wanted to move the courthouse from downtown; Joe Riley did what it took to keep it at Four Corners. Ditto the School Board's Taj Mahal (city rented 1/3 of the space); ditto the hospital complex.
So he was wrong. Jobs without housing brought 10,000 professionals and their cars onto the peninsula every day.
The City Paper didn't see that coming any more than the rest of us did.

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Posted by ImFromHere on September 7, 2016 at 10:43 PM

Re: “How unsecured vehicles contribute to Charleston's gun thefts

How about if it's proven a weapon was easily stolen because of your negligence, you lose the right to own a gun... period, the end...

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Posted by tigerlily75 on September 7, 2016 at 7:49 PM

Re: “How unsecured vehicles contribute to Charleston's gun thefts

If only those vehicles had been armed this wouldn't have happ...oh wait.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on September 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM

Re: “How unsecured vehicles contribute to Charleston's gun thefts

In other words,most of the guns were stealable because of the stupidity of the owner. How about tacking an intelligence test onto that carry-permit?

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Posted by Ima Oldman on September 7, 2016 at 3:42 PM

Re: “Mayor Tecklenburg lays out plan in response to Bi-Lo closing

community concerns about food availability??? they closed because not enough people shopped there to support them even with a much higher-priced Harris Teeter a few blocks away, so apparently there was enough food available elsewhere. I smell political grandstanding.

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Posted by Ima Oldman on September 7, 2016 at 3:36 PM

Re: “How unsecured vehicles contribute to Charleston's gun thefts

Oh look! Victim blaming!

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Posted by Djedi Mastafari on September 7, 2016 at 3:15 PM

Re: “But the more things change, the more they stay the same

Yep. Today's curmudgeons are yesterday's rabble-rousers. So it goes. As I get older I find myself disturbingly concerned about the height of my neighbors' grass and loud motorcycles going down my street. And it seems like just a few years ago I was on those motorcycles smoking grass. Le sigh.

And also..."when that part of town came back to life." That is such a punctilious way to say "once there were fewer black people." Well done.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on September 7, 2016 at 2:39 PM

Re: “Mayor Tecklenburg lays out plan in response to Bi-Lo closing

Travel + Leisure and Conde Nast have just voted Charleston as having the #1 food desert in the world!

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Posted by Ron Liberte on September 7, 2016 at 1:38 PM

Re: “The Agenda: Trump up in S.C., Clinton overall; No charges for Spring Valley officer; Who's running for gov?

Whomever votes for trump should personally be responsible for the costs of that wall, that Mexico ain't paying for. I mean, how the hell is trump supposed to MAKE Mexico do anything? He can't. He's just blabbering and pandering to ignorance and bigotry. So, if trump becomes president, he will build the wall (so he says) and the citizens that voted for racist trump can pony up money from their pockets to cover the multi-billion dollar cost and leave the intelligent (non-Faux newser's) voters out of this foolish responsibility. After all, trump said he's going to lower taxes and I expect not to pay a penny of that wall based on that lame promise. You cannot lower debt without paying debt and that money cannot simply be printed, it MUST come from the taxpayer (poor to lower-middle class as the rest have "loopholes").
G=Greedy
R=racist
A=anti-gay
N=neanderthal
D=demagogue's
Old Party.
The party that loves to hate!

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Posted by tupper29406 on September 7, 2016 at 8:34 AM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

I went to college at a former "#1 Party School" as judged by the Princeton Review, and the author's accounts conform closely to those in the episode of This American Life of the same name. It also recalls events that I experienced first-hand, so to say "this is all new" seems ridiculous. However I would entertain an argument based on data and not speculation.

The "carpe diem" mindset that these students, like their many forebears is a Cliff's Notes version, distilled to "party hard while you can" ignoring the fact that being a little sh*t will carry penalties in the near and far term. Your school and town will crack down on you, and for the non-rich-and-well-connected the public intoxication arrests do a number on job prospects.

If you find yourself in the midst of nursing a hangover, wondering aloud why that boring, sober homeowner was being so harsh last night, consider the last time you saw a drunk person actually make more sense than the sober person they were pleading with. Since that is likely "never," the same outcome applies to you, no matter how righteous your stand against that beer bottle and/or manhole cover was at 2:45am. Have fun, but just go quietly when the opportunity presents itself.

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Posted by factoryconnection on September 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

Can we now bring up the obvious topic / question? Incidents of this sort were much, much less common when downtown bars could stay open late. I mean like sunrise late.

Sure, there were big house parties (especially on Saturdays, the one night of the week when the bars had to close at 2am) and yes cops got called. But nothing like this shit I am reading about these days.

Put the people that want to party all night back in bars where they belong, instead of on their tiny little porch which is 8' from your bedroom.

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Posted by Cid95 1 on September 5, 2016 at 10:32 PM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

There is simply no excuse for bad behavior. Why should it be characterized by the
Ron person, for example, as an argument about "convenience." Nighttime is not for roistering in the public streets, and these children need to be helped to understand that. That the child in question didn't "understand" the issue reminds me of the twit who after having a hundred people in the street at 3 AM responded
to my calling of the police by asking me if there had been a problem.

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Posted by Susan Flaster on September 5, 2016 at 3:39 AM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

"A few days after moving to Charleston last year"

When are these Northerners (she is from Wisconsin) going to stop coming down here and telling us how to live our lives?! Am I right you guys?!

Oh wait, her argument is one of convenience for y'all. Hence the silence on the usual "love it or leave it" pablum.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on September 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

you've lived here a whole year? and you "asked him about his own mortgage and responsibilities." you sound very self important.

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Posted by ncspartan on September 3, 2016 at 6:57 PM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

Yes, every parent is "proud of their kids." Yes, and every parent thinks that their kid is "gifted." And yes, all say, "my kid would never act like that." The College of Charleston has been around for nearly 250 years. Do you really believe that the school, police, and neighbors haven't addressed this problem before?!

The issue is that these adults (no, they're not kids) weren't raised to be respectful of others. The issue is that absentee landlords cash the rent checks, and care about little else. They don't improve or even maintain their properties, and take no interest in their tenants.

The College can remind students that they are guests of The College, and will be expelled if they cannot assimilate into the community. It's a learning opportunity and part of the four-year maturation process that students learn to act responsibly, not drink excessively, and not impinge on the rights of others. Basically, abide by the Golden Rule.

The solution is the Livability Court, because the violators (renters) AND the landlord must attend. If that's not enough to embarrass them, then the students should move back home, and the owners should sell to a family wanting to make a positive contribution to the community.

Nice article, Shani, congrats!

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Posted by Ferris Kaplan on September 2, 2016 at 3:28 PM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

Also, here is some information from the school's website about diversity programs and programs for students with disabilities. I'm sure there is more if you just take a look.

http://admissions.cofc.edu/explorethecollege/diversity/

http://diversity.cofc.edu/

http://reach.cofc.edu/about-reach-program/index.php

Each summer before a student's freshman year, the school has required reading. The student's write an essay based on prompts from either the school or the author (I'm not sure but it's all on the school's website) that must be turned at their convocation ceremony which takes place before school begins. They attend discussion programs revolving around their required reading as well. The program is called CollegeReads! This years required reading was The True American: Murder and Mercy in Texas by Anand Giridharadas. The year my child entered the College of Charleston the required reading was Freedom Summer by Bruce Watson. Mr. Watson was able to visit the campus and speak to the students at several events held on campus that year.

The opportunities are there for the students. If you have more ideas, please reach out to the school as I'm sure they will listen.

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Posted by CofC Parent on September 2, 2016 at 3:09 PM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

As the parent of a College of Charleston student I know there are some amazing, respectful and terrific kids on that campus. It would be great if the author of this (and any other disparaging) article would,rather than write an article that tears the kids and the school down, perhaps reach out to the College directly and propose a joint effort between the community, the City and the College and its student/faculty body to build the bridge that would make Charleston and the College that much better. Many of these students will stay in Charleston after graduation and become your neighbors, your employee, your boss and perhaps your friend. I realize sometimes you have to call the Police when it becomes out of hand and I totally understand that but don't simply complain about the problem. Approach the school and the town with a idea or a plan to make it better as well. I'm not giving any person a pass who breaks the law and disturbs the peace but I do think there are productive and smart ways to try to make it better for everyone. It's a great school and I'm proud my child attends the College of Charleston.

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Posted by CofC Parent on September 2, 2016 at 2:47 PM

Re: “Being one of Princeton Review's top 20 party schools is nothing to brag about

This is a great summary of a very bad but typical example of what happens when young people are not raised to respect authority. I have just left an experience with a school in North Carolina that requires high performance from its students K-12. The parents support that program and the kids in the upper school do not seem to mind. If fact they work hard and behave.
Shani you did well and I look forward to more of the same from you!!!

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Posted by James Robert Shirley on September 2, 2016 at 2:44 PM
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