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Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

Almost all police everywhere in the US have been wearing body armor for decades. However, that "soft" body armor is only rated to stop pistol and shotgun projectiles.

This is "hard" body armor which can stop rifle rounds (it's steel or ceramic). I am sure the Charleston SWAT team already has this. I guess they are buying more now since BLM nutjobs want to assassinate police.

Posted by Cid95 1 on July 29, 2016 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Don't let Nikki Haley's transformation fool you

Lee why do you love democrats so much?

Posted by Randall Floyd on July 29, 2016 at 4:30 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

As a former resident of Charleston County who returns at least once a year for a visit; it's nice to see that the "City Paper" has not lost its sense of humor.

Unfortunately, by publishing this article in a less than objective fashion, it is not doing a credible service to its readers who might only get their printed news from this paper.

I don't know the author's professional background, however, based on his commentary, I'm pretty sure he never served a day in a law enforcement uniform. So, as a career law enforcement officer, I will offer some objective facts that the author of this piece failed to provide.

There is a war on law enforcement officers, courtesy of the Obama administration. It goes back to the incident in Cambridge, MA in 2009 where Mr. Obama passed judgment on the officers involved and the agency before the ink was dry on the arrest report.

It can also be traced back to when Eric Holder was the Attorney General of the US, and failed to prosecute both domestic and foreign terrorists (Black Panthers for voter intimidation, and GITMO detainees who were returned only to fight some more). AND AND

Now fast forward to the present day.

As of 28 July 2016, law enforcement line of duty deaths are up approximately 8% over this same time frame last year.

There are only about 900,000 total sworn law enforcement personnel, serving a nation of residents and visitors that exceeds 300 MILLION people. And on average, a law enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty every 61 hours or so.

You should also know that a black Harvard professor jut released a study that shows that claims of racist deadly force incidents by law enforcement have no merit. AND the actual study is here.

Your readers should also know that ballistic vests have a safety rating of approximately 5 years, which can be reduced somewhat in high heat and humidity environments (it has been rather warm this week).

Your claim that no ordinary citizen can buy body armor is also false. There's a company out of Kentucky that has a wonderful selection.

And at around $500 per vest when bulk ordering, $250,000 should outfit the department with new vests, that will last about 5 years.

So, for yours and your reader’s future endeavors, feel free to use the following open sourced items for your research into actual news reporting.

Personally, if I were your editor, I would have at least suspended you over this piece; unless of course this is your normal effort, then I would have fired you.

It’s one thing to be left leaning, it’s another to totally disregard objective fact based reporting.

God bless the USA and all her allies.

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Posted by Retired Sheepdog on July 28, 2016 at 12:52 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

You forgot the third thing the shootings have in common; they were resisting arrest (fighting). Another asinine article from a liberal. Why not take their guns away also, so they will have no defense at all?

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Posted by Showmoor on July 28, 2016 at 8:09 AM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

Actually the vests they want to order are a great idea. They work better against the high powered rifles that lunatics prefer. I want the all the p-dogs to get this type of vest as well. I think they are also entitled to safety. And the 50,000 in riot gear is nothing. Better to buy this stuff for them, then to pay for any of the stupid asinine studies to see where the crime is located, as we have in the recent past.

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Posted by Cia Culinarykid on July 27, 2016 at 9:38 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

I thought policeman automatically wore bullet proof vests???🤔🤔🤔

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Posted by eden0718 on July 27, 2016 at 9:03 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

Seems like the media has declared an all out war on the police as of late. Why not get them these to keep them safe? People are throwing bricks at "peaceful" protests. I have no issue at all with this as a city of Charleston resident. I have nothing but respect for these officers and what they deal with day to day. If you have a problem; who are you going to call? Sorry to tell you but ghost busters are fictional.

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Posted by Kimmyk1031 on July 27, 2016 at 7:57 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

Mat, the next time you are in trouble why bother the police, seems that you have a strong disregard for their safety.

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Posted by Ben West on July 27, 2016 at 2:06 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

Ballistic vests? As in vests designed to stop a bullet if you get shot? Of course. Why should cops wear a vest that could save their lives?

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Posted by jadenova on July 27, 2016 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

"sorry, until there's a trial, you're still a citizen and you have rights"

Yes, and so does the officer. If you are a fleeing suspect and you are shooting at the officer (or about to) the officer, just like any other citizen, has a right to defend themselves. The officer (unlike citizens) also has a right to fire in defense of the society at large as well.

Now, this is not meant to excuse some of the actions seen by law enforcement. however, despite the dozen or so incidents seen on YouTube or media recently, these incidents are still, by far, in the minority. The vast majority of officer / citizen interactions are done calmly, professionally, and occasionally in, a friendly manner.

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Posted by Jshicke on July 27, 2016 at 12:18 PM

Re: “Police ballistic vests are a greenlight for CPD to militarize

I'm not sure if my previous comment went through, so I'll sum up in another one:

Militarize: to put weapons and military forces in (an area) or to give a military quality or character to (something) - Merriam-Webster, 27 July, 2016.
How does giving police ballistic vests (a.k.a. bullet proof vests), militarize the CPD? Simple, it doesn't. How does protecting our officers, our 'blue lives', militarize them? Joe Public can buy the vests, why can't CPD? If Joe Public can militarize, then the PD's around the country need to as well (North Hollywood Shootout anyone?). Sounds like the media isn't reporting the whole story again (surprise!!!). You say the 'citizen' has rights, and you are correct. However, certain citizens, let's call them convicted felons, don't have certain rights; the right to bear arms, to conceal said firearm in their pocket while resisting arrest and reach for said firearm during the arrest. That's one example. Maybe what you should be writing about is how certain cultures are raised to hate police, how that life is glorified in music videos and movies and songs. What you should be writing is "If stopped by a police officer, show respect, do what you are instructed to do, no sudden movements & explain what and where you are reaching for..."etc. Oh, and don't forget the biggest thing you should write "Don't kill anyone, be they a blue life, a black life, a yellow/brown/red/"
Now, had the CPD ordered four tanks for crowd control, then you could argue militarization. But to anyone with their head on their shoulders, vests are a good thing for our officers.

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Posted by Craig Gary on July 27, 2016 at 9:49 AM
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