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Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Bravo to the city for turning down the application.Now let's put our energy to halt the hotels from taking away the Charleston we came here to enjoy. It won't be long before we won't be able to look out across the harbor and enjoy the views.

Posted by giotta on April 27, 2017 at 6:40 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

You know how people say that it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? Not with construction permits. The professionals know this. They f*cked up. "Oh, but they're wealthy businesspeople, shouldn't they get their way with this neato thingy?" Dwayne asks.

No because that would make it even more f*cked up. The argument that they've rehabilitated the Rivers Federal Building is a red herring; they are getting their money out of that hotel and the restaurants just like they originally planned.

Posted by factoryconnection on April 27, 2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “City and state legislators push plans to bolster affordable housing in Charleston

The Homeownership Initiative has several homes in its inventory and is a great place to start to provide affordable housing. This legislation kicks the can down the road. We have a good start in the HI program it's just highly under utilized. Please Google it to learn more

Posted by John McCollum on April 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM

Re: “It was the best of, it was the worst of

Really, you should take a harder look in-house if you're concerned. Awards have been created specifically for advertisers. It's a joke and it has been for a while. Foghorn Leghorn pretty accurately summarized the process. What you're doing is describing a turd sandwich and saying one half sucks instead of the other.

Posted by BNP29412 on April 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Has anyone applied any science at all to the noise argument? Sounds to me (excuse the pun) that too many subjective arguments are being bandied around regardless of the merits of the case.

Posted by Chris Leigh-Jones on April 27, 2017 at 1:28 PM

Re: “It was the best of, it was the worst of

Oh, Ms. Parks, your opinion pieces are as refreshing as a shot of hemlock with a side of arsenic on toast points.

"Best of" issues are annual mainstay of city papers nationwide. They're not some corporate conspiracy to gentrify smaller, and typically better, local offerings but solely popularity polls. Often ballot stuffed and just a way for city papers to increase their ad revenue for a specific week. Frankly you should applaud CCP's efforts to include their own editor recommendations, which I found worthwhile. Besides don't you have better things to write about like Trump's similarity to Hitler or the CIS normal patriarchal hegemony?

One thing you can be assured of when it comes to your writing, you'll never have to worry about, appearing in anything "best of"

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on April 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

It's called penance. Sin against the city planning board and play the price. Some latitude should be given that the owners took an ugly office building and turned it into an equally ugly looking hotel (externally) with a great bar.

That being said, there isn't a house or apartment closer than a city block away (on one side) and five stories below this rooftop location. Compared to equal venues like the Bohemian, the Watch, Stars, The Pavilion, the Vendue and even Revelry Brewing, this place is practically soundproof.

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Posted by Foghorn Leghorn on April 27, 2017 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Ron,I thought that was "your" head. OH WELL!!!

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Posted by dun'kin Duncan on April 27, 2017 at 7:22 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

The neighborhood is being petty the Dewberry bar is literally five floors above the nearest house so what type of noise are we actually complaining about. If it's about the permitting process that's fine but admit it.

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Posted by brandon johnson on April 27, 2017 at 3:07 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

There are a lot of tragedies in Charleston, but this is not one of them. Hard to believe Mr Green is actually an attorney. Seriously Green has little respect for the regulations and permitting process that the Dewberry ignored. I guess they thought it would be easier to ask forgiveness rather than permission.

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Posted by RASPUTIY on April 26, 2017 at 9:01 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

5 Star??? Ummm, I don't think so......but correct me if I'm wrong. It definitely doesn't appear 5 star to me after visiting and careful consideration.

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Posted by DaleS on April 26, 2017 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

What's the saying..."lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on mine."

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Posted by Truman Smith on April 26, 2017 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Soooooooooo many bars, including rooftop bars. Do we need yet another choice? Perhaps we should consolidate every establishment in town (by making Charleston one huuuuuuuuuge mixed-use complex?) and have one massive, well-lit, pop-music blasting roof-top bar. Screw the residents! Why should anything in Charleston be about the residents? Profits above everything (pun intended).

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Posted by Kimberly Hogan Hambric on April 26, 2017 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Dwayne! Good to see ya! It's been a while. I was worried you had finally put your head so far up your ass you suffocated. Alright, let's do this.

"Believe me, I get it."

I am confident that has never been the case.

"The process is set up a certain way for multiple reasons, chief among them to give proper notice to area residents of what will be built next to them."

But when those residents receive proper notice of what is going to be built next to them and voice their concerns, you are opposed to it. Glad you have not lost the ability to argue against yourself in your own columns.

I agree it's not unreasonable to expect a fair amount of noise living in a downtown area. It's one of the costs of convenience. But at best the actions of the developer were incompetent and at worst completely shady.

So, your continued defense of the developer in light of this is extremely tone deaf. Then again, with your head in your ass, I imagine it's hard to hear.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 26, 2017 at 2:14 PM

Re: “It was the best of, it was the worst of

I certainly understand the sentiment. But how many of the people you feel should be properly honored are actually from Charleston, or even the Lowcountry? How many CCP staff and contributors from management on down are true locals? I'd be interested to know. There is a tendency to blame the influx of development on outsiders, but I'd be willing to bet that a significant number of those "small businesses, independent makers, culture shakers, and status quo breakers" are also transplants attracted to the same things about the area as you are.

Just because you agree with their worldviews and contributions, and perhaps even know them, doesn't mean they are not complicit in attracting more development and ironically contributing to Charleston becoming more generic.

It's a cyclical problem without an easy solution. And it's not unique to Charleston. An area presents itself with amazing natural beauty, great artistic talent, eclectic food, etc. - all of the things people want Charleston to remain a haven for - but if it remains so, more people are going to be attracted to it along with more development.

If there is a socially and economically conscious way to alleviate these issues, I'm all ears. We all roll our eyes at getting stuck behind Ohio and New Jersey drivers going below the speed limit in the passing lane on their way to A.W. Shucks, but let's not pretend like there aren't inconsiderate, awful human beings from right here too, who contribute daily to a lower quality of life than we all want.

In closing - think about the essence of the the Best Of Awards themselves. Marketing. The end resulting is winning an award which will improve a brand and thus attract more people to it. Perhaps it's a self-defeating contest.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 26, 2017 at 1:42 PM

Re: “Michael Slager claims to have forgotten statement given to SLED on Walter Scott shooting

Walter not Rodney.....my mistake

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Posted by Lp Fritz on April 26, 2017 at 1:24 PM

Re: “Michael Slager claims to have forgotten statement given to SLED on Walter Scott shooting

Hell...I don't know why Slager and his attorney don't just go one step further with his Preposterous claim and say that he wasn't even there on the day Rodney Scott was murdered.....just say it was his evil twin brother who did it.

Man...an attorney will say and do anything to win Justice for his client....with the emphasis on win, not Justice, and certainly not truth

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Posted by Lp Fritz on April 26, 2017 at 1:21 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Is the Hotel in debt so much that they need extra revenue? Duh....Hope the hole, yes, whole place is troubled...

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Posted by Therealdan McKelvey on April 26, 2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

"And although a few neighbors may have won in this instance, it's the rest of us that have certainly lost out on something wonderful."

Awesome.

Okay, now I'm totally convinced that Dwayne Green is a program created by the Chamber of Commerce to automatically respond to any zoning issue with 950 words of inane talking points.

If the Beach Company proposed a Golden Nugget Casino on Magnolia Cemetery, the DwayneBot would respond in the City Paper with an article recycling his due process arguments and lamenting the cultural and aesthetic loss of a national treasure.

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Posted by Pat Hendrix on April 26, 2017 at 9:12 AM

Re: “Should the Dewberry's rooftop bar have been allowed to open?

Put it next to your home.

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Posted by Go Hoyas on April 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM
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