IF the bars have to provide that service in conjunction with the officers, then I'm all for it. A bit of shared responsibility between the city and the "Late Night Entertainment Establishment" would be a good thing.
I hope the same rules apply for the Spoleto events too?
Did city council not just vote against providing the "entertainment" areas with extra police? I believe they did......
If we can enforce the drinking age we would be A-Ok. Bars that do it, do not have issues nearly as much as the bars that do not.
And as far as the line about lawsuits, and frantic 911 calls "THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING"
You are correct. Drunks are not the most reasonable people to speak with. You will either have bar security getting hurt or stepping over the line and hurting a drunk. Either way the Police will need to come anyway.
Are we now clear on "White Flight"?
Let us not also forget about the hoplophobic, neo-segregationist bigotry in government schools. Zero tolerance/intelligence teachers and administrators punishing children, and sometimes calling the police, for children who are drawing a picture of a firearm, or having paper folded like a firearm, or chewing a poptart into the shape of a firearm. That's like punishing a child for violating racial segregation laws for bringing a black crayon to school. The teachers and administrators who punished kids for the "offenses" above, are, literally, mentally infirm, and need to have their mental capacity tested by a licensed psychologist, before they are allowed to be near children again. Any children the offending teachers or administrators may have should be kept safe by the state until such tests can be performed. This is what Neale Bortz means when he says that government schooling is child abuse.
There are editions of this book available without this content, which the author apparently didn't want to have published. I understand the book is old and it takes controversy to get headlines, but it was a valuable document before. It's fun to run this through the mill of media commentary and controversy, but now every school district in the country has to deal with the collateral damage. I'm not sure it is worth it.
The present system is anti-White. Especially the US educational system. I was a teacher briefly and had to get out of it. I couldn't stand the bias. I feel sorry for young White students who have to suffer this sort of system. It's wrong. I would never put my own children in a public school. It's cruel to do so when they will surely be subjected to anti-White propaganda as well as racial harassment from non-White students.
Double Huh, Pronghorn. Who is this guy? If you put many of his phrases into the internet, you can see them word for word many times. This is where college and high school kids go for easy term papers.
PS: This is a free speech issue and the school system has NO business being involved. If it was a negro tweeting the school wouldn't say a peep!!
Another example of radical liberalism and political correctness gone wild in schools. More liberal/progressive indoctrination. Just like idiotic zero tolerance gun policies throwing kids out of school for anything gun related - tshirts, pictures, little boys playing cowboys & indians, etc. etc. A real gun, yes! A piece of paper, a shirt, a picture, a pop tart, a water gun, a toy soldier, a GI Joe toy, etc. etc. get an eff'in life morons!!
More racist & hypocritical bullshit from the left. This is what Obama has brought us - anti-anything Christian and/or white, while enabling and advocating anything non-white & non-Christian.
Our DOJ gives amnesty to Muslim families not in danger in their home countries and our gubment gives them all sorts of public assistance, yet refuses to help a white Christian family from Germany that will have their children taken away if sent back to Germany.
@Anthony - Racism is far from limited to the south. In fact, it's worse in most parts of America today than here in the south.
@FactoryConnection - you're an idiot.
to: And if elected... You must be on drugs! Have you some DNA from Jessie and Al? The problems in the mostly minority schools have been going on for years, and the staffs at these schools refuse to do anything. Well, let's see some rather large lawsuits be settled in favor of the plaintiffs. I doubt there will be any changes made in the administration, but some kids might receive enough money to go to college.
Why is it when _____ happens to _____ , it doesn't seem to matter. It's just another day. But God forbid _____ should happen to_____, well, then, well, suddenly it's the end of the world!! Why is that? Tara? Why?
Most rational people also consider a house, a car, food, clothes, and other items necessities that we need every day, unlike healthcare, which for most is rarely used at all. Yet no one is telling the providers of those other necessities what they can and can not charge.
Healthcare is expensive because the gubment has been screwing with insurance for decades. Same with college tuition. Anytime the gubment gets involved, prices skyrocket. Back in the day - pre-1990s - health insurance was largely used for hospital stays and major emergencies. Typical doctor visits were paid via cash out of pocket. Prices started skyrocketing when insurance started being used to cover everything, including preventative care. Same with dental care & eye glasses. They were much cheaper before insurance got involved.
Once someone else starts paying the bills customers stop caring how much it costs. There is no more market incentive to help hold prices down.
Same with college costs. As soon as loads of easily obtainable, low interest student loans from the gubment became available college tuition skyrocketed. My entire 4 years at Clemson (1984-1988) - tuition, room, board, books - EVERYTHING - cost around $20,000. Today one year at Clemson as an in-state student costs more than my 4 years!!! That's 400+% inflation in only 25 years! That's insane.
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I had many friends work their way through school, but that's nearly impossible now! My 1st car was a (new) Nissan Stanza bought in 1983, one year before I went to college. It cost a little over $10,000. Today you can but many cars far nicer than my '83 Stanza for not much more than $10,000. Yet college tuition has gone up in less time over 400%. Again - INSANE!! Why? Because the gubment is subsidizing it. Same as medical insurance. Yet basic cars have gotten far better, far safer, much more technically advanced yet only moderately more expensive.
The surest way to create asinine inflation is with government subsidies. The gubment isn't helping anyone with subsidies of ANY kind!! Subsidies hurt infinitely more than they help and they come with higher taxes and huge gubment bureaucracies to manage them. And once start become almost impossible to end.
Once again, it's the gubment "saying" they want to "help" but all it does is expand the size, scope, cost, and influence of gubment while taking more money out the pockets of hard working folks. The ONLY winner is gubment and supporters of more & bigger gubment!!
Want healthcare costs to drop and service/quality to go up? Go back to cash for services rendered for MOST medical expenses and return insurance to its intended purpose - hospital, emergency, major medical, & catastrophic care!!
Hasn't the CP heard that the skate park will NOT be located under SCDOT roadways. I applaud the risk of the developers building in this location, but really it is inevitable...Small retail is being pushed out of Upper King St, upstart bars & restaurants who cannot afford to run with the big dogs on King are pushing into the surrounding residential neighborhoods to the West(Cannonborough-Elliotborough), diminishing livability. This makes long time residents, especially families(read 'homeowners' not renters) want to move and rent their homes to the multitude of college students sporting Daddy's checkbook. Charleston ain't quaint anymore. Too bad the City doesn't value recently turned neighborhoods and the residents that changed them. Instead they pursue a more profitable tax base regardless of what residents want. Make business' happy. Make tourists happy. Ignore your own residents. Thanks Joe.
@factoryconnection it's called a typo moron! Typical, no subtance just leftist nonsense. Atleast I can be original and not deem everyone who doesn't "swallow" my agenda a troll. See I knew you were a drone I just knew it!
Where does the school get the money to pay these fines? They aren't a for-profit organization, are they? Don't their funds come from us, the tax payers?
It's a shame they are covering the exterior in red brick rather than keeping the cool-grey look though. Downtown Charleston needs more "modern" buildings (like Cool Below) which utilize more concrete, steel and glass. Also, lost in any of these discussions about new developments is the lack of LEED certification requirements. If the City of Charleston really wants to promote sustainable living (which I am skeptical of, in spite of all the talk about local food and bike/pedestrian friendly streetscapes), then Tim Keane and the Planning Department need to require all new hotels and apartments achieve certain design standards. It's no secret that buildings are one of the largest contributors to carbon emissions, and with all the "green" options available today, why would the City accept anything less than the Gold standard? Growth is coming no matter what and the City is clearly willing to allow developers to reap big profits (while placing even larger burdens on the local infrastructure), so the least we can expect is for these projects to be well planned and forward thinking.
The area may be industrial and raw but I really value the gritty vibe because
its so different from the ubermanicured primness found on the lower
peninsula. Its nice to see the gradual and organic change. And I hope
a balance can be struck that respects the socioeconomic diversity of the
neighborhood for the future.
This is a pure sign of gentrification, and anyone who thinks or says otherwise is ignorant and or corrupt. All of these luxury develepments, the one near piggly wiggly is encroaching on the east side residences. before long all of downtown will be gentrified with hipsters. Which are like the Plague.
Re: “Late Night law would force bar owners to create powerless police force, endanger lives”
In this morning's P&C, big article about the how closing the sidewalks around hospitals has forced smokers into parks and neighborhoods to smoke.
Huh.
Who could have seen that coming?
Here's my question: If the city has such power over the sidewalks, why is it abdicating that same responsibility when it comes to bars? Will Hanks have to have same requirements as AC's.
Statism's really cool until it affects you, eh?