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Re: “If Charleston doesn't get real about social diversity it's going to feel a world of pain

a "world of pain" threatened and then never defined. pointing out the obvious is not journalism. only thing painful here is the editing.

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Posted by ncspartan on September 25, 2016 at 10:59 AM

Re: “If Charleston doesn't get real about social diversity it's going to feel a world of pain

We have an opportunity for Burke to become this high school, and there are many people already working to that end. As with any change, there are several different visions of what Burke should become. If we can get through these conversations with our shared goal in mind, we can move forward and make some big and positive changes in the lives of downtown families!

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Posted by Heather K on September 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM

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Fixing our downtown schools will be a huge help. Lifelong friendships, shared experiences, and perceptions start there. The city has recently revamped the downtown elementary schools, and there's now good diversity in them because white families with young kids aren't leaving downtown when their kids become school age. The next task - and it's a big one - is creating an academically successful and racially diverse high school with a strong athletics program. When I think back to my high school days, sports and clubs offered a chance to practice, play, travel, develop friendships with, and meet the families of people of different races. We were literally on the same team. There are no options for this to happen downtown today (aside from Buist, which is extremely hard to get I to). This challenge is a critical one to solve to bring Charleston's downtown residents together. Parents can't meet different parents of the downtown school soccer team or tennis team if one doesn't exist.

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Posted by Heather K on September 25, 2016 at 8:27 AM

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My friends from church here in the England sent their daughter to Charleston for a studies 3 years ago. She came back after less than a year. The reason? She could stomach the covert racist attitudes and covert practices of her fellow WHITE colleagues. In case I'm not clear SHE IS WHITE. What she reported home was distressing. Shame on you Charleston. It's 2016 not 1816!

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Posted by Derek Mills on September 24, 2016 at 7:36 AM

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My mother grew up in a part of downtown that was mostly white in the 50's. Then it became mostly black by the 70's (without fanfare, complaint or social justice warrior mobilization).

Now it's some sort of holocaust because it's becoming mostly white again?

All of the above happened as a function of Americans choosing where they wanted to live and selling / buying private property.

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Posted by Cid95 1 on September 23, 2016 at 2:51 PM

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Randall, we're not censoring you. The page was probably cached and the comment just didn't load in when you checked back.

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Posted by Sam Spence on September 23, 2016 at 11:20 AM
Posted by Randall Floyd on September 23, 2016 at 10:19 AM

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I got my post erased for telling an anecdotal story about a black club owner who didn't want blacks in his club. I said in the post that I was repeating what he told me. City paper comments are only for people whose narrative fits what the City paper thinks is right. From now on, I will never read the CCP and discourage anyone else form reading it. If I see stacks of them at restaurants I will pick them all up and recycle them. If they have the right to censor me, I will censor them.

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Posted by Randall Floyd on September 23, 2016 at 10:14 AM

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"The city was built on our backs and now has forced us out,,,," Come on now. Stop playing the victim. Charlotte street and surrounding area has been around a long time and has changed with time and will continue to change. Look at the area around Hampton Park and northern rutledge ave. It changed from the 40's and 50's, then the 60's and 70's and so on. Being born on John Street as were my parents I can attest to the changes. You were not forced out, you chose to leave.

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Posted by truthrus on September 23, 2016 at 10:08 AM

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Being a traveling musician, I know a black club owner who invites country music to his restaurant and nightclub to run black people out of his club. He said, he doesn't make any money off black people. In his own words he said, "they don't but drinks and make lemonade at the table with free lemons and sugar and don't tip his staff. He said they also smuggle in their own booze. I don't know how common this is, but I have no reason to believe the guy is lying. He said he tried to have a black club and security and economic reasons put him out of business. If any of that is true, I could see many club owners doing the same thing. I'm not saying what he did was right, but going out of business and being bankrupt because of unruly and cheating customers isn't right either.

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Posted by Randall Floyd on September 23, 2016 at 9:51 AM

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My family is one of the very few black families that still owns several homes in downtown Charleston. Gentrification has truly taken its toll on the neighborhoods on the peninsula that were once mostly African American. As a black professional, I had to move to Columbia to provide my family with the diversity that was lacking in my hometown and also an affordable home in a good neighborhood. As the home prices and property taxes continue to rise, the population of downtown will continue to become less and less diverse. When I visit, I ask the same question...where are the black people? On a recent visit my son was walking our dog near our family home on Charlotte street, and this was so unusual that a "neighbor" rushed inside, locked her doors and turned on all of her porch lights as if in fear. The city was built on our backs and now has forced us out and driven up housing prices unrealistically. Personally, I think it is too far gone to ever be repaired. Unless you choose to live in North Charleston, Summerville, etc., you will not see much diversity now and definitely not in the near future.

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Posted by ASeabrook on September 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM

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Very interesting comments especially those on old money and new money.

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Posted by John Mayo Jones on September 22, 2016 at 12:36 PM

Re: “If Charleston doesn't get real about social diversity it's going to feel a world of pain

Yes yes yes ......lets talk!

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Posted by AKSL on September 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM

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I moved here from NY 4 years ago. I have never seen so many people who do not make eye contact and say hello when passing on the sidewalks. I feel a division and a sadness here. Charleston is a beautiful city still suffering from the past, and rightly so. My heart breaks for the injustices that have happened in the past and continue today. I am still adjusting to the changes of the move from NY. I pray for equality and unity.

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Posted by nybeachmom on September 22, 2016 at 11:46 AM

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I've lived in Charleston, SC for ten (10) years and I'm still looking for and wondering where the black people are... Please let me know when and if you find them. It is extremely hard to find black professionals in this area.

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Posted by Martin Lane on September 22, 2016 at 11:31 AM

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It would be lovely if we could just think of ourselves as people, rather than "black" people or "white" people. Maybe then we can steer away from this "us and them" mentality that plays a huge part in keeping racism alive.

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Posted by Dillon Curtis on September 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM

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Just hang out with who you wanna hang out with. Diversity for the sake of diversity is stupid, and puts too mu h of an emphasis on skin color for no reason. If you meet somebody, and they seem cool, and you actually feel like having another friend, then hang out with them because of who they are, rather than what they look like. Jesus.

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Posted by Dillon Curtis on September 22, 2016 at 9:42 AM

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It's a sad truth, but the diversity here is a real problem. The stares and rejection you get while trying to have a good time in Downtown Charleston is a big deterrent for Blacks. I'm sure going to a more urban atmosphere could present some of the same challenges for White patrons as well.

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Posted by Travis Lincoln on September 22, 2016 at 8:28 AM

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We moved here almost 2 yrs ago and deal with the same thing. We are usually 1 of the only or 1 of a few black families around. I would love to see more black people outside of NC. The first thing I asked when I moved here was "Where are the middle class black people"?

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Posted by Jaynaia Williams Griggs on September 22, 2016 at 12:35 AM

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I'm a native charlestonian now living in Columbia. The Charleston today is not the Charleston of my youth. When I come home and visit familiar neighborhoods and drive around the peninsula, I myself wonder where the black people are....what happened to the neighborhood....what happened to community gathering spots?
Gentrification is almost complete! Families have lost homes due to inability to pay taxes or they have succumbed to pressures to sell ancestral homes.When I read articles about Charleston rarely do I see people of color a and minority owned businesses.
By the way, in addition to the socio-economic differences, there is also a distinction between old money and new money. Thus we have a tale of two charlestons.

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Posted by Pheobe Malloy on September 22, 2016 at 12:34 AM
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