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Re: “S.C. lawmaker proposes firing squad as death penalty option

My choices: 1) Abolish capital punishment; 2)firing squad 3)guillotine, if one is available.

Posted by pugnax on April 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM

Re: “S.C. lawmaker proposes firing squad as death penalty option

Probably could have written that better; what I mean is will you receive a letter in the mail saying you have been called to serve on firing squad duty?
I never actually had to shoot anybody when I was on one in the military, so not sure what I would have done if told to do so.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on April 23, 2015 at 5:54 PM

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Well, we could make the experience as historic as the City itself, and reinstitute public hangings at White Point Garden. Or, there's burning at the stake, or hanging/drawing/quartering.

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Posted by YankeeLady on April 23, 2015 at 5:36 PM

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"Will being on a firing squad be like being called up for jury duty?"

Well, this is South Carolina–bastion of sophisticated political thought.

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Posted by Pronghorn on April 23, 2015 at 4:59 PM

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The purpose of our judicial system seems to be twofold; 1.) Punish those who act outside of the bounds of acceptable societal limits and remove them from society while they are "rehabilitated" and 2.) deter others from doing the same.

The death penalty is obviously the ultimate punishment, however it doesn't remove the criminal from society much more than a life sentence (assuming it is actually carried out to until the criminal dies), so, in my opinion, the purpose of the death penalty must be one of deterrence.

Is the death penalty as it is currently administered an effective deterrent to violent crime? I would suggest that it is not. A 2-4 year wait for trial followed by 2-10 years of appeals and then, and only then a "peaceful" execution in a private room. How is that a deterrent? If SC is going to have the death penalty, it should use it, and it should do so publicly and violently (not cruelly). The death penalty should be a shock to the average citizen of the state and to those with violent natures so as to deter violent crime, or it has no purpose.

I'm not suggesting that SC should have the death penalty or not, only that if we are going to have it a firing squad makes more sense than lethal injection.

And before anyone suggests as much, I would have no interest in participating in or the witnessing of the act. Also, I'm pretty sure that what I typed is not an original argument.

Posted by 1illjd on April 23, 2015 at 4:51 PM

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Are we actually proposing this? I expected better of my lawmakers and would have much preferred the hanging option be brought back.

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Posted by warwit on April 23, 2015 at 3:51 PM

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"I know Ron, what those heartless murderers need is a hug and a big cuddle, and you're just the guy to give it to them."

The death penalty is not fiscally responsible. And you'd think a proponent of reduced government such as yourself would be against the government spending more money on a pointless endeavor and having the ultimate power of deciding who lives and who dies. But of course ideological consistency has never been the forte of the Armchair Libertarian.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 23, 2015 at 3:33 PM

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I know Ron, what those heartless murderers need is a hug and a big cuddle, and you're just the guy to give it to them.

Factory is correct that our death penalty is applied so inconsistently that its deterrent value is low. In, say, Singapore where the punishment for murder is the death penalty, end of story, it's much more effective. People know they will hang if they're found guilty (and the court process won't take a decade) if they murder someone.

Chelle - So if someone locks someone else up in their basement for 5 years and gets caught, does that mean we shouldn't lock them up in jail as punishment because it's hypocritical to do so?

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Posted by Cid95 on April 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM

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I would consider firing squads cruel and unusual punishment. We are not in a war time situation. How as a society can we talk about enforcing laws when people use guns to kill someone, and then turn around and use a firing squad to kill them. It's nothing short of hypocrisy.

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Posted by Chelle TheRegulator on April 23, 2015 at 2:31 PM

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I've watched my veterinarian euthanize three of my aged or sick horses which have weighed a minimum of 1000 pounds. They get dopey on their feet, he pulls them forward so they fall gently to the ground and about 10 seconds later, they are gone. Why is this so difficult?? Let's just send all our murderers on death row to Oregon or the Netherlands. The doctors there are just ITCHING to put people down. No muss, no fuss. We'll call it what they do in Holland: Nonvoluntary Euthanasia. Funny, Europe and Oregon have no trouble getting lethal drugs.

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Posted by Joan Peters on April 23, 2015 at 1:40 PM

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"I would volunteer to be on the firing squad"

I don't think anyone here is surprised.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 23, 2015 at 11:40 AM

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The death penalty in this country is a travesty of justice, doled out capriciously and seemingly at random in some cases but not others. It doesn't bring the victims back, it has no effect on violent crime, and we have most assuredly executed innocent people. There is no going back from it.

That being said, if we are going to continue to employ it, I see no reason to hide behind the seeming cleanliness of lethal injection merely to assuage our guilt at a barbaric act. The firing squad is a violent, bloody, but quick death that doesn't hide its true nature. Lethal injection paralyzes the subject as they get to experience their own slow death in a way that looks to observers as peaceful and serene. "See, we're not the brutal killers, he's as docile as a lamb as he goes."

For the record, the guillotine was also developed to be more humane because that's a damn quick kill, messy though it may be. Who says that executioners shouldn't literally have blood on their hands? They're carrying out state-sponsored executions, after all.

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Posted by factoryconnection on April 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM

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The photo at the top of the article is certainly not from the Cuban Revolution (1953-1959). The uniforms and weapons are US military WWI era (1914-1918).
It could be an execution conducted by the US Army or Marines in The Philippines? Or, if from Cuba, from the post-WWI but pre-Batista era.

Execution by firing squad seems the most painless, humane and effective method of the three methods proposed. A progressive and common sense solution. Although I think 2 of the 5 should have live rounds, just to be sure.

I would volunteer to be on the firing squad for the people that killed the guy sleeping in his car West of the Ashley, the girl at the block party with 1000 people who saw nothing, etc.

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Posted by Cid95 on April 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM

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Will being on a firing squad be like being called up for jury duty?

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on April 22, 2015 at 11:44 PM

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Although I guess it's not a great comparison, considering the people being executed are actual alive human beings and not zygotic blobs. But hey, life is life, right? All life is sacred!

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM

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Sure I can.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM

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You can't compare killing murderous criminals to aborting 1.2 millions babies a year.

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Posted by redblood on April 22, 2015 at 4:34 PM

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I bet this kid also considers himself to be pro-life.

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Posted by Ron Liberte on April 22, 2015 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Charleston police finalize body camera policy

I hope tech will be ready 24/7..and what a way to take a break from work...my camera is acting up...this technology age is getting on my nerves...why can't we all just be real people instead of having a big brother to watch over us 24/7...are we that stupid...wait..maybe we are...especially since we consent to this. Whoever runs for Mayor next time, might want to run on the platform, no more cameras..or something even better..the world is your oyster

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Posted by Allakara Starheart on April 18, 2015 at 9:55 PM

Re: “Charleston police finalize body camera policy

Quit half-assing! Clearly, every human and domesticated animal in the US needs cameras on them 24/7 with a live feed to a new government body called the Department of Omnipotent Management who will monitor actions real time for crimes, or potential crimes, and dispatch the police to apprehend the threat for preventative detention. I think I read a novel about this once...maybe they could use that as a guide?

This will, of course, require another several hundred billion dollars in deficit spending but, safety. Can't argue with safety, and the Constitution is just a piece of paper anyway. It can't stand in the way of safety.

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Posted by Cid95 on April 18, 2015 at 2:29 PM
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