The whole "Look, the Confederacy was fighting in the interest of preventing a despot ruler and centralized federal government from interfering in what should be state decisions" is getting old and is quite frankly an assertion made by those who are intellectually challenged. Enslaving people is not a state decision.
The whole Nazi analogy is getting old and is quite frankly an assertion made by those who are intellectually challenged. Look, the Confederacy was fighting in the interest of preventing a despot ruler and centralized federal government from interfering in what should be state decisions. Today that would look like citizens receiving a fine from the IRS for $5k for not having health insurance that they couldn't afford in the first place.
"Right or wrong, they fought for what they believed in at the time, in that moment in history."
So did Nazis.
Look, the Confederacy was fighting in the interest of preserving its system of slavery. There was a right side and wrong side to the war. The South was in the wrong.
Taking down the Confederate flag will sh** on the hundreds of thousands of lives that were lost in the name of that flag. Right or wrong, they fought for what they believed in at the time, in that moment in history. That's right history. And that's what it is. And should be relegated to...but that doesn't mean southerners (and others who study and appreciate the whole nature of the civil war) shouldn't honor their flag. Because that violates their rights as citizens, too.
Wow, Dunkin. That was one unintelligible rant. Sort of think you prove Matt's case for him.
As a southerner, I've never understood blind reverence for our treasonous, immoral ante-culture and the atrocities propagated therein.
Why, I'll tell you why. Because you so-called journalist made it a "SOAP OPERA".
With all due respect to "Mat" & what we southerners call "Southern Heritage",he only offers opinions & they are like "AHS",everyone has one & in some cases "like you" Mat,"2". The key word in your article is "OPINION" not "FACT". So,what I'm saying is based on "FACT" & that your article,the fact that you said it & other things. So let me give you some fact,If "you" put your hand on "MY" stove,you'll get burnt.Some of the biggest problems we as Americans have today is that there are a few southerners & a lot of carpetbaggers who call themselves "journalists" but are in all reality people (at the expense of others) who have an agenda (IE: Megyn Kelly). And that's my 2cents worth,"fact".
I agree with what you stated. Th North Mt Pleasant crowd handily voted all of their resident incumbents out. So yes, you are correct, it wasn't nearly just about the parking garage. Which is the crux of my opinion of this ill reputed article. People in all parts of Mt Pleasant want things to change. The "opposition" and big media who are owned from developer $$ want people to believe that Save Shem Creek is just about a small zealous grop not wanting a big parking garage. However, and especially since social media, people are able to get the real story, and not just what big media and big advertising are paid to try and make you believe. What City Paper, P&C, Charleston Chamber of Commerce, etc, have failed to notice, understand, and admit, - is times have changed, people are smarter and more well informed. Basically their lying and promoting untruths strategy has failed and backfired. The tragedy is they still refuse to listen to the citizen (voters) voices and continue to believe that spending enough mone will get them what they want.
Per the county election board: http://www.charlestoncounty.org/department…
44,079 votes were cast for MtP Town Council, and we were voting on four candidates at a time. Sounds like 11,000 people voted, which tracks with the fact that I was in and out in five minutes during the "morning rush." So neither 10% nor 25% but in fact right in the middle.
That's off-year elections for you; people don't exercise their rights like they could.
I will agree, however, that those that did vote seemed to be on a "throw the bums out" tear. Of course, don't assume that the Shem Creek parking structure was that big an issue for everyone. Traffic in the upper part of town, especially 41 is a constant headache for a great swath of our neighbors on a daily basis.
Here is a good vid of how the Shem Creek Parking garage was done, $$, politicians, developers, and closed door deals.
The Save Shem Creek Group, and of course, the recent election
It takes a special kind of stupid person to think that a filthy rich person (anyone in washington) is serious about fixing income inequality. All that is important to them is what YOU can do for THEM
If they think they are special and blow by your no trespassing sign have them arrested.
That will correct their bad attitude.
Also call the police if anybody but you or the mailman touches your mailbox.
I put a "no soliciting" sign beside my doorbell. A Bernie supporter rang anyway. I said nothing, just pointed to the sign, and she squealed "I'm not soliciting. I'm a political volunteer." Just closing the door in her face didn't seem strong enough, but what else could I do?
Next year I'll try a No Trespassing placard.
It was giving me a headache too, so I turned off my phone for a few days.
Also no trespassing signs work wonders.
Given my comment was removed, I guess it is impolite to question the motives of the GOP as it relates to faith. Good job with the censure-ship, CCP! Ok, I will say it like this....using the grammatical tool of sarcasm.
I love so much the influence faith has on our laws and how they impose faith on the non-believers. Non-believers must comply at once or be doomed to face everyone's (even the non-believer's) maker and then be cast down into Hades. Therefore, it is the job of the faithful (just ask any one of them) to make everyone see the err of their ways. The sooner everyone complies, the sooner there will be peace.
Letter: Voter mandate in Mount Pleasant
Dec 10 2015 8:07 pm
The citizens of Mount Pleasant have spoken. The recent historic Nov. 3 election (and associated run-off) was a referendum on the parking garage. All incumbents who pushed the garage through were overwhelmingly defeated. What does that say? Mayor Linda Page and council members Ken Glasson, Chris O’Neal, Chris Nickels, and Thomasena Stokes-Marshall were wrong regarding the Shem Creek garage.
Considering the excessive amounts of money spent in opposition to Saving Shem Creek by those incumbents — and considering the high-level endorsements for the incumbents, (such as Arthur Ravenel, the chairman of the East Cooper Republican Party, the mayor and The Post and Courier) the election and the run-off was a complete landslide victory and mandate for the citizens who want to Save Shem Creek.
Vernon C. Owens, Jr.
There's and old saying - If you don't vote, don't bitch. If you don't get involved, don't complain.
And actually, 10% voter turnout is not accurate. That was just for the top vote getter. From memory (so not totally accurate) I believe the voter turnout was closer to 25%. For a one dimensional municipal election, during pouring rain, that is an astounding turnout. So using your logic, a huge percentage of voters care about what's going on in Mt P. Clearly, it shows what's going on in Mt P is hugely important to it's residents.
While this controversy was obsessing Town Council, CARTA decided to cut our public Transit services by over 30% and end all weekend bus service to the Northern end of Town including Wando HS, the Mount Pleasant Hospital and Oakland Market, where over 100 employees ride the bus to work at Walmart. That is what happens when people get distracted. http://hungryneckstraphangers.com/no_cuts_…
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