You realize that the Democratic party started the Klan? Right? @LeeMajors
I always enjoy Republicans taking credit for Abraham Lincoln and Emancipation--as if the progressive republicans of the late 19th century have anything in common with the bigoted corporatist dickheads of the modern GOP.
Perhaps if you all hadn't welcomed the Dixiecrats with open arms and spent the better part of 50 years fighting against civil rights you might've retained some progressive-cred.
Otherwise, shut it.
Geez, first let me state clearly I think Nikki Haley is the wolf in sheeps clothing. She panders to the special interests and works the issues to her betterment and is just another self aggrandizing, power hungry, typical politician.
Second, I believe the previous comments about Mat Catastrophe by Liberal_neo_marxist are summarily correct and eloquently and passionately written. (he is a liberal southern hating douchebag).
When it comes to his opinion of Nikki Haley , and God knows it pains me to say this....
He is right.
Having said so I need a shot of scotch and a shower.
Bruh why u so mad?
What a disgusting, sloppy, unprofessional attack on our Governor. First, you attack her for not being poor. How does being poor better qualify someone for public office? In the land of opportunity, where anyone with brains and skills can rise up out of poverty against all odds, why should I be voting for poor, unaccomplished Democrats like Bernie Sanders who couldn't operate a hot dog stand for a profit? Because they are better qualified than someone who is successful and has wealth as a result of it? NO. They aren't. So there goes your first strawman attack. And for your information, Republicans did not hold a majority in South Carolina or anywhere else in the South until long after slavery had been abolished. You do realize that hundreds of thousands of white Christian Republicans died to FREE slaves from southern Democrat slavery and bondage, right? Are you desperate to bring back the glory days when white racist Democrats were in power in South Carolina? When will YOU change, Mr. Catastrophe? When will you begin ironing your shirts? I think you're just upset that Charleston didn't react the way Ferguson did or Baltimore did. You and your liberal friends wanted an excuse to loot, riot, destroy private property, and not show up to work. In Charleston, the black community and Christian community came together and reacted to the terror in a responsible, righteous, forgiving way and you hate that. You're the one who won't change. Just another racist white democrat wishing your political party didn't lose the Civil War, so now you pretend to be the expert on race relations and pretend to care about black people even though you still look at them and speak about them like some exhibit in a museum, or just use them like a political opportunist.
And why did you bring up transgender issues? I must be old school because where I come from you discern someone's gender based on their anatomy. Someone's liberal wimpy feelings don't determine their sex. Maybe they never took sex ed.? I discriminate male versus female according to reproductive organs. That must make me a heretic! I also discriminate green lights from red lights when I'm commuting. Discrimination!!!
And murdering unborn babies doesn't make you a good person. Only 1% of abortions are due to rape and no one challenges those. The other 99% are just acts of baby butchering disguised as some "choice" even though you liberal democrat progressive neo-marxists try to rob me of free choices to live my life how I want to every single day. You liberals don't believe in a choice which school I send my children to. You don't believe in me choosing whether I want healthcare insurance or not. Instead I get mandates from government goons. You don't believe in me choosing whether or not I want to arm myself to protect my family. You confiscate my earned income without choice. I can't even choose which color to paint my house without some liberal council or boardman approving it. I know you liberals don't believe in liberty and free choice, you believe in coercive power and fiat banking and insurance schemes.
And why didn't Democrats run someone more virtuous than that lawyerboy Vincent Sheehan? I mean you hate Governor Haley so much, but who did your immoral party of frauds run against her? You liberals are so worried about Brock Turner's soft 6 month sentence, but you ran a candidate for Governor who got a rapist, Isiah Junior Outten, off on 38 days served! Court records prove it. So why did you run a candidate for Governor who defended a man who raped 11 year old and 14 year old girls in the woods? Answer me Mat Catastrophe. Defend your fraudulent, racist, hypocritical political party's choice of candidate it ran against Governor Haley.
Governor Haley is a minority. I think you're just racist against her because she's a minority and you're waging a war on women. I mean, surely that would be the ridiculous accusations if I were to criticize a minority female Democrat. So let's turn the tables so you can see how silly and petty your own political party is.
All I really ask is for creepy older white guys to not corner me in parking lots and tell me in a threatening tone that the police in Charleston "like going after people like me." Or not to be forced to show ID when picking up an order when none of the white people in line are asked to show ID. Or maybe despite being the 2nd person in line, I'm the last person to be helped at the deli counter. Yeah, growing a backbone will end the daily discrimination I experience in Charleston. Maybe people should just recognize that they're racist and discrimination is wrong.
"Boy I wish I could get discriminated against, that would be so refreshing! Also, let's not forget that minorities are the REAL racists."
Deep thoughts from our new handle on an old account, Liberal_Neo_Marxist.
I actually WISH salespersons would leave me alone. Must be nice! So you're brown and your husband is white. That sounds so UNracist. Show me your liberal democrat progressive neo-marxist paradise in the world where there is absolutely no racism whatsoever? Where does this magical fruity cake liberal paradise exist? In Central or South America? Ha yeah.....NO. I and my friends of many skin colors openly talk about these things, and we all agree that Charleston is the least racist place any of us have ever lived. I suggest you grow a backbone and stop worrying about how people look at you or what other people think. Give them a disapproving look back and stop being so wimpy. Wishing your own daughter's skin to be light sounds like you're the one with a racial complex. Liberals are always in their feelings.
"I know she'll have an easier time living in the South if she looks Caucasian."
I disagree. Maybe you should move to Liberal Democrat New Hampshire where 94% of the population is white. I'm sure you won't get any bad looks from good obedient white liberal democrats who love people of other colors so much that they don't live amongst anyone of other colors. Funny how that works!
I moved to Charleston 2 years ago. I'm neither white or black. I'm brown. Racism does exist in Charleston. Discrimination does exist in Charleston. Folks are just more "polite" about being racist or discriminating. I've experienced it at the grocery store, in the parking lot at Lowes and most often when I try to purchase things in shops run by locals. Now I tend to shop at big box and online stores just so I don't have to feel unwelcome by store associates. On those rare occasions when I do purchase from a local shop, I make my white husband come with me so I'm not completely ignored by the salesperson. Also, as a mixed-race couple, we get strange/disapproving looks from older folks whenever we go out. I recently had a daughter and it makes me sad that I'm so relieved that her skin is so light because I know she'll have an easier time living in the South if she looks Caucasian.
I"m sorry that you have such a negative view of life, Mat. Charleston has always been a city that accepts all races and creeds and orientation. You are looking at the city through dark glasses. Take them off and see that we handled the shootings in a proper way and that we have lived in a "mixed" community for decades with few problems. Unfortunately, we had to close Lincoln High because it was not financially feasible to keep spending 4-5 times the cost of an average CCSD student on a school that was sub-standard. Also, it is not racist that blacks are being moved out our their neighborhoods. It is purely the fact that there is only so much land, and the properties that they inhabit have become more valuable for those with more financial means to buy them. It is called gentrification, not racism. You need to get out and see how well Charleston is functioning and not look through that dark cloud you are under.
"We don't blame all Muslims for the acts of a few."
How's that rock you've been living under since the Fall of 2001?
"Why would we blame all lawful firearms owners for the acts of a few?"
Is anyone blaming all owners? Or are we just questioning the extremely ridiculous process by which pretty much anyone can become an owner, and being a bit weirded out by the extreme fetishization of objects that are created only to destroy.
The NRA represents 5mil law-abiding US firearms owners. Committing murder is not a law-abiding act. Mass murders with firearms represent <1% of murders in the US. Logically, when one acts to solve a problem, one doesn't start with 1% of it.
We don't blame all Muslims for the acts of a few. Why would we blame all lawful firearms owners for the acts of a few?
You do have one valid point which is - what about the cop on duty there? I have not seen a timeline which accurately explains what happened. Did the guy get inside with the rifle and the cop was on duty at the door (and then not follow him in)? Was the cop inside and then he fled outside?
The lessons of Columbine seem to have been ignored here: engage the attacker aggressively, don't get into a hostage / negotiation situation. How many of those 49 dead bled to death on the floor in the 3 hours of negotiations?
Brilliant. Thank you for expressing the sentiments of a thousand exasperated local activists.
don't be racist against any one religion or race. there are enough reasons to hate us all equally.
It wasn't that the gun was useless it was that the security guard was useless with it. If you are paid to protect you don't run away. That's a semi automatic AR15 one shot with a trigger squeeze not spraying bullets. in that moment that handgun was as effective as any weapon to stop that shooter he just didn't do it, 300 people? cant anyone tackle this asshole ? Hes on his phone with the news and police? he can only shoot in straight lines. Somebody have some self preservation instinct and take him down that gun does not make him superman. This is going to happen more and more we need some heroes out there. I rather go out fighting than hiding or running away.
"Good guys were not allowed to possess guns"
So then you missed the fact that the Orlando club security guy had a gun and it proved useless.
Welcome to CCP though. You're going to be a real treat. Conservative concern troll is a very unique concept on the internet.
Mr. Ron Liberte,
Every shooting you just mentioned occurred in a gun free zone. Good guys were not allowed to possess guns in those liberal democrat sanctioned danger zones.
Dylann Storm Roof did not purchase a gun. It was gifted to him by his father for his 21st birthday. Roof was prescribed psychotic (often called psychiatric or psychotropic) drugs by a legalized drug dealer in a lab coat. The Orlando shooter was a known threat and had been investigated by the FBI. Because of the Hussein Obama Administration's hard-on for Islam and political correctness, no Muslim is denied any rights no matter how many times they travel back and forth to known middle eastern terrorist breeding grounds. Some Muslims have murdered Americans and still get released from Guantanamo Bay. They are above the law during the Obama Administration. The Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, did not purchase any guns. Again, they were provided to him by his mother, who he in turned murdered. Adam Lanza was also on prescribed psychotic drugs, something liberals like to give to children for phony diagnosis such as attention deficits. These drugs are often laced with methamphetamine, something a meth head gets arrested for in the streets. The Colorado shooter, James Holmes, was also on prescribed psychiatric drugs. He purchased guns because he had no criminal history. I believe the NRA and Republicans would support a ban on anyone on psychotic drugs from purchasing a firearm. Unfortunately, I think it is actually the Democrats who would oppose this, as they are on the take from the pharmaceutical industry.
The obvious solution based on my researched facts is that we should ban "gun free zones" as they are proven to be the most dangerous places in this country. And we should ban anyone on prescription psychiatric drugs from purchasing firearms. In matter of fact, we should crack down on the pill pushing in the medical and pharmaceutical industries altogether.
"Several Asian lunatics commit mass murder specifically in the name of the Islamic terrorist group ISIS. We blame the NRA."
The Charleston shooter legally purchased his gun. The Orlando shooter was a US citizen who legally purchased his weapons. The male San Bernadino shooter was a US citizen with legally purchased weapons. The Sandy Hook shooter was a US citizen who had a legally purchased gun. The Colorado movie shooter was a US citizen who legally purchased his guns. Both Fort Hood shooters were US citizens who legally purchased their weapons.
Here are a bunch more: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10…
I think it is fair after years of dealing with gun tragedy after gun tragedy to question the practices of the NRA, a group that sees no problem with gun violence and wants to let as many people as possible have guns.
By the way, isn't one of the NRA's tenets "only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun?" The club in Orlando had an armed off duty cop working security. How did that work out?
Obviously you don't get out much. I've been all over the United States. Charleston, to its credit, is probably one of the most integrated cities I've ever been to. Blacks and whites greet each other at the gas stations, grocery stores, workplaces and in passing. Our area is very diverse and everyone is generally polite to each other. I see people of different races dining together in restaurants all the time. I see interracial couples all over Charleston. You want to experience segregation and racism? Try moving up north to one of those wonderful democrat blue states where all the smug self loathing white liberals live in their gated communities and are so unused to even seeing a black person that they stare as if they have encountered an unknown species. It's always liberals who live in communities that are 90%+ white who claim they are experts on who is and who isn't racist. GTFO
Most of the only racists you'll find in Charleston are in local factions of the ACLU and NAACP.
One white lunatic commits a mass murder specifically in the name of anti-black racism. We blame racism. Makes sense to me.
Several Asian lunatics commit mass murder specifically in the name of the Islamic terrorist group ISIS. We blame the NRA.
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