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Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

At the very least it would appear to raise some questions in regard to the "will of the people" talking point that some in Mount Pleasant like to crow about. It's clearly the will of a small, passionate group. Beyond that, no one can say for certain.

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Posted by East Cooper Observer on February 18, 2016 at 11:56 AM

Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

So basically 56,000 registered voters really don't give a shit what happens with Shem Creek.

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Posted by nofaith on February 18, 2016 at 10:57 AM

Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

Interesting Number - There were 62,000 registered voters in Mount Pleasant last year. The top vote getter, Bob Brimmer, received 6,038 votes. So 10 percent, or less, of registered voters elected the current town council.

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Posted by East Cooper Observer on February 18, 2016 at 9:30 AM

Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

"This apparently involves some sort of scorched earth policy against the business people of Shem Creek, complete with a "Come at me, bro" moment in the parking lot of RB's last week."


Hold on a minute. WHAT? You can't drop this on us without a link. What happened? Googling.....forced to read the Charleston Rag and gets nothing more (why do people pay for that paper). Is Hicks the source of this? I want details! Was there a literal People's Elbow? Enquiring minds want to know.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on February 17, 2016 at 9:56 PM

Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

And I would love to debate the author of his article, it's merits, concerning the issues, in real time.

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Posted by Julian Hoppy Hopkins on February 17, 2016 at 7:23 PM

Re: “The fight over Shem Creek starts to get interesting

What a poorly written article. Sad and misrepresented. Another poor (or poorly informed) journalist who writes to inflame the perceived issues, and doesn't report the truth. At the end of the day, why does the media want to detract from the fact that the town went through the democratic process, which is called voting, and made a clean sweep of all incumbents, or is that just some type of recurring hazy bad dream? Not just 1 or 2 of them but all of them! Morever, the support the Shem Creek Crowd received from the outlying "suburban areas" ie, Park West, Dunes West, and in was overwhelming. The incumbent candidates who live in those areas got ousted by their own neighbors! And convincingly! The incumbent with the biggest campaign account (from Park West) came in 9th place in the election. The actually put a $/vote number two it, and he spent almost $10 per vote, and the highest vote-getter in the election spent about a nickel a vote. Can you wrap your head around that? I suppose the point you're missing is that politicians are elected to do the will of the people, not the will of the people who donated to their campaigns and identify with them in the media. So, the 4 new guys were elected at the will of the people, and they are just trying to do the will of the people who elected them. You know what else, the work ain't done. There's another election in less than two years......

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Posted by Julian Hoppy Hopkins on February 17, 2016 at 12:45 PM

Re: “North Charleston evicts trailer park residents

at the airport they could of just made under ground parking for staff

Posted by Ryan Marvin on February 17, 2016 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Our elected officials are wasting their time with bills about Syrian refugees and Sharia law

"This whole notion of the US being a Judaeo-Christian nation is boneheaded ignorance." True indeed. This country was founded on religious FREEDOM....the freedom to practice your CHOSEN faith while not imposing that faith on other religions (or lack thereof). This nation was founded because of the PERSECUTION of the Church of England, which was attempting to force (impose) the entire nation of people to adopt and believe in their particular tenets and beliefs while not respecting other's beliefs. Thus, our fore-fathers fled to these shores in order to restore the freedoms the Church of England was attempting to take away. The freedom to practice Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Hindu, Sikh, Catholicism and Atheism, freely and respectfully.

That is why laws need to be written to respect everyone's beliefs and not rule by theocracy like Cruz and his ilk would like to do. Theocracy is a dangerous rule because of the widely diverse interpretations of the various scriptures. Religious extremists of all faiths would seek to impose various punishments based on their particular faiths and if we adopt a rule of theocracy, then Sharia Laws may very well have legal standing in this country.

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Posted by tupper29406 on February 15, 2016 at 9:15 AM

Re: “Our elected officials are wasting their time with bills about Syrian refugees and Sharia law

Seeing that Cruz isn't Roman Catholic, I think it would be an odd move. And talk about bone-headed...have you read nothing about the personal lives of our founding fathers...apparently not. And finally, the bill is to prevent Sharia from even being considered so your comment about whether it ultimately prevailed or not is irrelevant. Enough time wasted at this progressive rag for now...

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Posted by Native76 on February 14, 2016 at 2:23 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

"That was exactly what I thought when I read this, and I wasn't the only one obviously. We've spent TRILLIONS on "the war on poverty"."

But the answer is NOT to stop trying to help. Conservatives want government out and think people should provide their own safety net or starve/freeze/die. Mat's point is not to stop trying, it's to try something else. One idea to end poverty has been termed "helicopter money". As in, what if the government just dumped money into the city with helicopters? Paul Ryan wants to try it but it turns out that welfare is really much cheaper. Do you think he and Bernie might be crazy enough to try something like a guaranteed income?

http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2015/05/13/gua…

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Posted by Fish Pimp on February 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

"After all, if the goal of a group is to "end" something, and 30 years and tens of millions of dollars later, there's still something to be ended, I'd call that counter-productive at best and a failure at worst." You mean like the so called War on Poverty? - NoFaith

That was exactly what I thought when I read this, and I wasn't the only one obviously. We've spent TRILLIONS on "the war on poverty".

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Posted by Cid95 on February 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

To stay on point, in this land of the free and home of the brave there are people living in the streets. I wager that many, if not most, are veterans. This is unacceptable. I would bet the farm that there are probably enough abandoned city, county, state and federal buildings in the Charleston Dorchester and Berkeley counties to house the homeless in those 3 counties.

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Posted by jantom on February 11, 2016 at 5:28 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

Wheres the donations going? I can tell you first hand that Im on the verge of becoming homeless and ive been told to call 211 a hundred times. Ive called 211 a hundred times and been given lists of numbers to call. Those numbers gave me more numbers and those numbers gave me more numbers. Ive heard voicemails about not making appointments for help due to no funds, we only help this area or that zip code and been given more numbers. Im losing my home and cant even afford a tent. This city is not the Holy City, its the Holey Pocket City and peoples donations are probably paying for big political fundraisers or new cadillacs complete with custom paint jobs and matching rims or even the pastor or prophets kids college ride. I know for a fact theres none of it helping the people who actually need it. Theres the same people in those offices month after month living off those donated funds meant for people in crisis. Ive come to despise this place and the fat pockets who walk around here with their heads up high acting like they are something. Oh theyre something alright! And God sees too!

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Posted by Carrie Lafferty on February 11, 2016 at 5:05 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

180Place provides so much more than just temporary housing. They also provide other services such as helping the homeless obtain valid IDs, find jobs/job training, obtain needed medication/health/addiction services, meals and a case worker for up to a year after someone transitions to permanent housing.

Providing housing is an important part of the solution, but in some cases it's insufficient if you want the solution to last.

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Posted by ReeDJPat on February 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

As financial statements for charities go, this one is not bad.
Their CEO is only paid $113235/year, and the bulk of their income goes to their programs.
http://one80place.org/financials/

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on February 10, 2016 at 7:32 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

I think Mat's point is this

The $6.5 million total revenue of One 80Place divided by an average of 546 homeless people (according to Wayne Weart) divided by 12 months = $990/homeless person/month. Enough money to rent in any area of the city except Mt. P.

Money is not the issue, the approach is wrong. The best way to end homelessness is to provide housing. Just like the best way to end poverty is to give away money. The single most successful anti-poverty program in the United States has been Social Security.

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Posted by Fish Pimp on February 10, 2016 at 6:07 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

Ahh, Nofaith, now I see why you are constantly blaming everything on liberals.
You think Mat is a liberal, and his views represent liberal views.
Mat is a communist, and much as I hate to join the "if you don't like it here leave" crowd; he would be much happier in a worker's paradise such as Cuba or North Korea.
That is, until he found out that he would actually have to work for a living. Since he has no useful skills, he would probably end up behind a shovel.
But, since everybody would be paid the same, his green envy monster would finally be happy.

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Posted by TROLLSLAYER on February 10, 2016 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

artrogue - thank you for the correction, my earlier post I said millions instead of billions. Since it is just "government money" none of the liberals seemed to notice my error....

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Posted by nofaith on February 10, 2016 at 3:33 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

"After all, if the goal of a group is to "end" something, and 30 years and tens of millions of dollars later, there's still something to be ended, I'd call that counter-productive at best and a failure at worst."

Exactly.
So now your on a roll... take this logic a little farther....

In March 3, 2014, as Chairman of the Budget Committee of the House of Representatives, Paul Ryan released his "The War on Poverty: 50 Years Later" report, asserting that some of 92 federal programs designed to help lower-income Americans have not provided the relief intended and that there is little evidence that these efforts have been successful.

Billions of dollars later and poverty continues. Obviously it is one of the biggest wastes of money in the history of our republic and a enormous failure.

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Posted by artrogue on February 10, 2016 at 3:10 PM

Re: “Charleston's homeless plan sidesteps the only solution

leemajors - that is actually a good response to them. With the exception of the ill, which should be moved elsewhere anyhow, if you are able bodied you should not be living in a tent city and doing so is, to some extent, a personal choice. The extenuating circumstances which are not by personal choice is what social service and organizations like one80place and SeaCoast and a ton of others work to help navigate through.

Even working at minimum wage (which there are very few jobs even here that start at that) take home pay is 1130 a month after taxes, assuming 40 hours. I am not saying that there are palaces out there but there are one bedroom apartments for $500 a month. Apply for section 8 and you pay even less. If you do the $9 an hour work for the City you are taking home $1400 a month. On top of that when you file your taxes your EIC refund will be about $3k. Throw that in the bank and you are looking at just under $300 a month to help out with rent.

There are individual reasons each of them is out there but there are ways to not be out there. Waking up and deciding to not be in that situation is one of them.

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Posted by nofaith on February 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM
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