Just wondering... This is ALL about a sexual fetish... I like women and a Vibrator up my ass occasionally when having sex with her yet I'm not putting bumper stickers on my car about it! Then again if I can get a tax break OK!
I believe LGBT people should be able to work wherever and enjoy their lives however they want.
You began your article with a bit of a strawman. I don't think hardly anyone is going to let go of an otherwise good employee simply because they are gay. Do you realize how hard it is to find people that will even show up?
A more realistic scenario is the firing of a below average employee that happens to be gay. Then, former employee assumes discrimination and sues. In the end, the lawyers are the winners.
ENDA doesn't go far enough. My solution is the only way for the government to make sure people are safe and treated fairly!
Welcome to the new world!
Ye Ole Heterosexual is on the way out of the closet!
Make way for boy boy girl girl or get out of the way - any other opinion is just viewed as bigotry from breeders!
Now where did I out my passport.... Looks around can't find common sense
Matthew O'Leary: that is actually how it happened in New York. An off-Broadway acting troupe fired a guy for "not fitting in", which upon further discussion turned out to mean that he wasn't gay, unlike the others. He sued, but the judge ruled that, since there was no law in New York against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, there was no cause of action. The legislature promptly rectified that.
The ridiculous idea that a non-government employer should have the right to employ any one they choose is incomprehensible. After Uncle Sam tells them who works for them, then he should tell them what business they should be in.
Since Cid95 sees ENDA as a bad idea, yet another layer of grease on an already slippery slope, I have to ask him: is federal protection against employment discrimination based on ethnicity or gender also a fundamental wrong? How so?
One argument I've heard against extending employment protection to include matters of sexual orientation is that there will be a flood of bias lawsuits. However, states that have these protections in place see them as a small percentage of overall employment discrimination claims. Can that data be used to sway opinion? Or is the "think of the businesses" defense just a cover for "gays are yucky and I don't want to hear Marc from accounting dish about his life partner?"
Honestly, I wonder if the fastest way for ENDA to be passed would be for some gay bosses to fire employees for being heterosexual. I know the outcry would be way more vocal, though things like irony seem lost on most bigots.
The government should just lock us all in padded rooms and feed us Soylent Green in order to protect us and assure us of equitable treatment and safety. It's the only way.
"The truth is we should be absolutely honest about our nation's history, and we should never whitewash it for the masses, no matter how good it makes us feel." etc . So when do you begin? And when do you start calling out your other likeminded peers?
Pretty good post, Mat, but you debunk a meme that really doesn't seem to have very deep roots in recent decades. I remember from my own fifth grade (c. 1950) experience, while preparing for our Thanksgiving plays, some smartass kid saying, sotto voce so as not to upset the teacher, "Great, if you wasn't an Indian", which was not an unusual feeling for most of us to have. The myth of "good" Pilgrim was already eroding. The First Thanksgiving story has been well debunked by writers such as James Loewen many years ago.
On the other hand, there seems social value in those old stories that tell not how it WAS, but how it OUGHT to have been. Or maybe not. A well balanced essay on the question appears in the latest issue of In These Times by John Eicher (of whom I had never heard).
"fairy tale of religious proportions!!!" Love it!! LOL. Our celebration of our honest and kind relationships NOW is worthy of our energies. ALL historic celebrations are the pretentious creations of manipulators. NOW is worthy of celebrating. Yesterday is history, written by extortionists.
"FYI - China discovered America first, long before the vikings. "
Cool. Nest year it's chow mein for Thanksgiving.
Turkey chow mein of course.
Ahhhh yes, mat and more "truth & honesty". Every liberal should watch the PBS documentary "America Before Columbus". The Americas were not this perfect utopia spoiled by the white man. And the flow of disease was not one way.
By the way, mat, you need to cite "guns, germs, & steel". You also need to be honest about Dr. Diamond's research. It wasn't simply about America, but how civilizations evolve world wide and the complexities involved.
FYI - China discovered America first, long before the vikings.
Thanksgiving today is more about having thanks for our great country and our fortunes, not some myth of the early days.
I'm sure "the truth about Thanksgiving" was fascinating...in 1986 when you were in middle school, Mat. We get it, the world and its history is complicated and there are few pure good guys and bad guys.
European settlers conquered earlier settlers from Asia and displaced them, later forming the United States of America. Lots of not nice things happened in the process.
Yet our country - barely more than 200 years old - dares to impose its beliefs and values on a part of the world that has been around for millennia.
So your equating age with ?
Are local companies, entities, organizations or individuals being excluded or discriminated against in the RFP process? It appears not - that in fact a local organization is participating in the RFP process and that other reasonable vendors (all the current bike rental companies) were made aware of and invited to explore the opportunity.
Prior to this, has the local community or Charleston government launched and executed a successful bike share program? Is there a program in place that is being bullied, harmed or unfairly competed with by the RFP process and this overall initiative? It seems like we don't have such a program so the very fact that the launch and facilitation of a program is a good thing.
What is wrong with having a third party - even if they aren't fully or even partially "local" operate a service here if that service provides benefit to our local community and our visitors? If it's a for-profit service, would they be tax exempt?
I would think that if any of the local bike shops, enthusiasts, ad agencies, business people or others find this an attractive proposition, they could join together and compete in the RFP process, no?
Are you implying that Charleston businesses aren't capable of competing with outside non-Charleston based businesses and therefore we should award this provisional contract to the best vendor only if they are "local" - even if they aren't actually going to provide the best revenue share, risk management/abatement, engagement marketing (butts on bike seats), etc?
If a Charleston based organization has the best proposal or close to it, they will win the RFP - that's a natural tie breaker. But why stop us from having a program we don't currently have if the best provider happens to be someone who isn't a local?
As you say, the victors write or edit the history. It has been that way since time began, and is probably seeded in human nature. I have no doubt that we have been fed a whitewashed view of American and world history all of our lives. The colonists' (and later our Government's) treatment of native Americans was deplorable and a shameful chapter in our history that rarely makes it into history books - much less covered in school. But this can be said of so many events.
Columbus' "discovery" of America for instance resulted in the decimation of many South American cultures due to disease, religious persecution, aggressive greed and slavery - yet we annually celebrate Columbus Day with sales for autos and sheets. And the Vikings discovered North America anyway!
Surely the Brits would have termed us terrorists (if the word had been around then) for our famously unconventional tactics during our traitorous uprising in 1776, yet we consider our forefathers PATRIOTS and celebrate each 4th of July with fireworks from China...
And if anyone still wonders WHY much of the middle east (especially Iran) so vehemently despises us, it is only because they have NEVER been taught anything - much less the truth - about our behind the scenes meddling in their regimes during the 20th century. Who do you think secretly supported Sadam Hussain and overlooked his atrocities before he became and embarrassing scapegoat? Or put in power the Shaw of Iran who's Secret Police subjugated the populace with such terror that they still cast a shadow over that land. And more recently, the US has refused to classify the military's forceful takeover of the democratically elected government in Egypt as a coup so that we can continue to sell them weapons. Are we unfamiliar with the definition of a coup or just hypocrites? Yet our country - barely more than 200 years old - dares to impose its beliefs and values on a part of the world that has been around for millennia. Is it no wonder most of the world resents us or thinks we are crazy?
The oddest and perhaps saddest thing is that the facts are known and the truth is out there for anyone with the initiative to find things out themselves. At least our government doesn't overtly suppress the information. It just doesn't promote it, and we as Americans are often too lazy to dig any deeper than what is spoon fed us in schools and the media. And after all, our warm and fuzzy idea of who we are and where we came from is much easier to swallow and live with than the alternative.
BTW... Happy Thanksgiving!
So, the message is, "You should celebrate Thanksgiving by feeling guilty for the actions of your ancestors"?
Why? You didn't kill any Indians.
What next? A column about how awful you are because your dad is a drunk?
I wonder if Mat will write a "Let's be honest about Christmas for once" column, detailing the true meaning and history of Christmas celebrations?
Let's hope not.
Given the Catastrophe treatment, the story would depict a knocked up Jewish princess on the lam with her baby daddy, cruelly putting innocent animals out of their manger and into the cold, just so they could be comfortable and warm while meeting with wealthy oriental gold, myrrh and frankincense merchants.
Essentially, colonist were illegal immigrants. I am not sure if there are copious written documents that offer a real time unbiased assessment of what took place in the early 1600's but if not, what we are talking about is not revisionist history, but conjecture. And of course the relevance of conjecture is obviously in the mind of the beholder. So lets be honest, the most important aspect of Thanksgiving today is its commercial value to the ADC (Alcohol and Drug Cult) in the promotion of the sale of booze. Fortunately, food also enters the equation, less people would find themselves drinking on empty stomachs. And if they really want us to be happy, move Thanksgiving to Friday and give everyone a long weekend. And while on the subject of being honest, let's not forget how CCP plays fast and loose with it claims regarding circulation numbers when it comes to enticing business to pay for ads. Putting free papers by the tons in stands around the lowcountry does not equate to the number of people who actually read CCP, much less look at the ads.
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