It's amazing how you can write all that and not answer a single question. Are you a politician?
mat are you really that ignorant ? God created Adam. and then made Eve for him. and they were married By God and began the marriage institution by God . yes they sinned against God in the garden by Eve , Eve transgressed the law first eating the forbidden fruit. and Adam did eat of it also. so both began to die that very day. but they lived for many hundreds of years . it tells us how old Adam was when he died the physical death just as God told them would happen to them if they disobeyed His Command about the Tree. and of course it does say that they had sons and daughters . just as it says of Noah and many of the others. Mostly the female children were not named , only the Males in most cases . being God made Adam the head of the Human race, and the man is the head of the wife. you see the woman has tried to usurp over the man for many hundreds of years now . and it has caused many problems in most all societies since the beginning . . I said that God had not made any laws concerning "incest" as we have today, however. back in the days of Abraham that law was put in place. I believe that all that is in the Book of Lev.
Going back a bit further, according to the superstitious, nothing can create itself, therefor "god" created the universe.
So since nothing can create itself, why would there be a "god"?
So, there was no incest in the Garden of Eden? OK. So, since you're really good at explaining that away, let's go deeper.
There was Adam and Eve. They had two sons. No daughters that I am aware of are spoken of in the Bible. Now, I'll admit I am fuzzy on whether this is before or after the Fall and the, as you say, Disease infected humanity. Either way, there are only four people on the entire planet at this point as far as I can tell.
Cain slays his brother Abel. Cain is thrown out of the Garden to the Land of Nod. Where there are, somehow, *other people*. Did God create them? If so, why is this not mentioned? If God did not create them, how did they get there? Is this when incest is created? Now that there are actually enough people to make it possible to not commit it?
Cain takes a wife. Has a child named Enoch, am I right? Did these people automagically spontaneously generate? Evolve? Get created? Why would God create people to take up the slack for Adam, Eve, and Cain when he could have just wiped them off the face of the planet and started over? He's God, right? Why bother with a bunch of disobedient people, especially where there's only three of them?
OK, whatever. So a few hundred years later, mankind (now, presumably, in the thousands and all apparently still hanging out in the Middle East) is going rotten and God wipes them all out (what a just and loving God, not killing 3 and starting over but waiting until there are thousands!). So, now we're left with Noah and his family. By your own statement above, *INCEST NOW EXISTS* and only Noah and his immediate family are alive on the Earth, not to mention there are only two of each animal.
The only way for you to rationally reconcile these events is to decide that there actually is no such thing as incest, whether genetically or morally.
I cannot understand how people are able to live with this sort of cognitive dissonance in their heads once they reach adulthood. When you are a child, and you ask a parent a question and then follow every answer up with "Why?" until you get to "Because I said so" then you, as a child, just accept that answer.
But what happens to people who continue to accept the neverending "Because I said so" answer from their religion?
Yep...Adam and Eve were our First parents and they sinned against God, so made us all sinners before the Holy and Just God of creation. every one who is born even this day are born of sinful parents.all were conceived in sin because their parents were sinners. the only one in the Flesh that was born of woman who has no sin , was the Lord Jesus Christ, He came to earth to be sin for His people and to obey the Father to Die for our sins against God. of course being unbelievers like yourselves you have no understanding of such things, which is sad.
GOD HAD NO LAW AGAINST INCEST AT THE TIME OF CREATION, wasn't necessary then because the human body did not have the Desease it now has, so they did not pass on any besides God waited until the earth was populated according to His will, then He made a law against incest. many of Adam and Eve's children married one another after all they lived for many hundreds of years then and were near perfect in body, no ills as of yet. there was no cancers, no other problems that we have today....You folks really don't know much about the Bible and God's ways for His creation do you ? sad...But it didn't take to many years before man had become so sinful that God had to destroy him and the system that man had made on earth by a Flood, Guess what the main sin was then ? you got it , sexual perversion. like today. But God will use Fire to destroy man and what he has built on this earth. And from the way the sexual perversion is going today with the sodomites gaining and redefining Marriage and other hate towards God and His ways . no telling how long we have left before He brings His wrath upon mankind again. it is time to Repent and change and seek the Lord for salvation of our soul's.we have had warning upon warnings.
Make no mistake, this LGBTQQIAA issue of CCP is a wet dream come true for clarkie. Stop feeding him.
Seriously CP, can you just ban the idiot already? He derails entire stories with is metal defects.
If we all came from just Adam and Eve then incest is cool, right?
factory wrong :
intersex=Sinner and any other name the world has invented for them . factory God also made many women unable to have children. and also made men not able to procreate .
Born-Again believers are still sinners before a Just God , but God doesn't see their sins anymore,God sees His Son Christ instead of course they do not make a thing of sinning as they did before.
factory did you also know that all sickness is because of sin from our first parents in the Garden ? well that is true even if you do not believe it ...Not because God wills it . but because man rejects Him and His ways as in the Garden. our parents Adam and Eve started to die in the flesh that very day when the woman transgressed the law of God, as did Adam because of him listening to his wife and not wanting to lose her and that he was responsible for her because God made Adam the head of the Race and his wife..Eve judged what satan told her with her emotion and feelings towards that tree of fruit that God commanded them not to touch or eat . the age of man was shortened by God because of sin and continued sin. many before the flood lived almost a thousand years, after the flood God lowered the age of man to 120 years, some lived longer some shorter . then the age was lowered to 70 years . or 80 if one would live according to God's ways . and some lived longer , some lived shorter lives..o God gives most the ability to live 70 years to repent and change before God . and do His will in our lives. factory there will always be freaks of Nature and Natures God, most all are because of sin in the world. remember, all people including your parents were born in sin as well. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.some have repented and obeyed God in that they have asked to be forgiven and professed Christ as their Lord and changed their life, so what will you do factory ? continue in your sin without Christ or repent to God and Christ and ask for Forgiveness ? And Change.
God teaches humanity not lie so if I marry in the name of god, then I would be lying to myself and my wife. Wait....I did that and ruined a good woman's life due to my lie......I did not and am not able to have a successful heterosexual relationship because you cannot have a successful relationship with anyone if you are living a lie and actively hiding ones truth. Honesty, after all, is the MOST important part of ANY relationship whether it be with a partner or with God.
So, Clarkie from where did you get your PhD in psychology, biology, or your MD since you're so sure of your expertise on the topic? I mean, since you're giving us a 100% unequivocal answer, you must have some actual expertise in the topic?
Or are you so completely ignorant that, no matter what you've forgotten about the very physically real intersex people? You cannot argue that some people are born with chromosomal/physical mismatches and/or both sets of genitals/gonads. At the very least that leaves, by your gold-standard definitions, four genders:
The real problem is that you want us all, including those that fall into the "Intersex" and "Sinner" categories to hate those that aren't "Male" or "Female," but suicide and murder are also sins. A body can repent until they're blue in the face, but that won't make those extra gonads disappear. Sexual conversion therapy has been proven ineffective, so your prescription is for Sinners to lie to people of the opposite gender into a sham marriage (See: Republican Senator Larry Craig)? What of the sanctity of marriage? They could not get married, but then by not being fruitful and multiplying they've also gone against "God's word!"
So what to do with these awful people? Oh, I know, judge from afar while inventing all manner of perceived harms that these sinners commit to the good folks like you, exactly as it says not to do in the bible!!! That's bearing false witness, casting stones, and judging while keeping yourself closed to judgment, all while doing unto others as you would certainly not want done unto you. Amen!
The term for gender is "Male" and "Female", there are no others. The world may invent others , but they don't stand . as for sexual ID, any sexual conduct shall be between a Man and Woman in the Marriage Bond, all else is a sin before God and Christ as well as normal society .others may try to 're-define' it
but that will not stand either.
tupper , i do love my neighbor, that is why i make the point of God and Christ requirement of "Repentence" and Change to be forgiven and the person must profess Christ as his/her Lord above all else. tupper , when you die here without Christ as your Lord there is only one place you will go, your soul will go back to Him who gave it ,which is God , then you will be raised up in the second resurrection to be judged which means the spiritural death for eternity in the lake that burns with fire forever. tupper it is such a simple thing to "repent" or is it ? Do you love to live in your sin that much ? remember unbelief is a sin that will condemn you now without the Holy Spirit ,
We need the rapture to happen ASAP so us tolerant and loving people can stay in hell (we will remain on the earth as it burns) and Clarkie can depart this life and go to his/her heaven and be happy that everyone along side him/her is just as bigoted and hateful to us earth-bound souls as he/she is now. Love thy neighbor - how did that one get lost in the bible.....or do we pick and choose what biblical rules to follow depending on what is convenient at the time.
artrogue: It is not my narrow views of religious issues or my views of morality, it is God's views on both . seems if you are a conservative minded one you should know that God does not tolerate the worlds view of religion or its morality views.
as in (Matt. 7 :14, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, that leadeth to life, and few there be that find it.") Now read verse 13 this is speaking of the world and those who follow the worldly ways . The question is, Just how do you see God ? do you think God is one who winks at sin and iniquity of man?
I'd like to borrow from Katie 2485 .... Clarkie....please shut the hell up.
Those of us with conservative viewpoints seem to get lumped together as one big evil amoeba. I'd much rather go on the fast track to hell than be lumped in with his narrow views when it comes to religious issues or his views of morality.
....Clarkie....please shut the hell up.
I'm gonna' throw up.
I cannot wait for the rapture.
"Where will Clarkie go when he dies?
He won't go to heaven where the angles fly
He'll go to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see him again til the fourth of July."
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