Common sense pevails here. Historically parents will attend to their children's basic needs in a responsible way including the restroom that the parent feels comfortable with. The idea Lee Bright has is only self serving and grandstanding as he has done time and time again. A f...ing wasted seat in the Senate and his community should vote him out of office he is useless to say the least and and is an embarrassment to the state. The thing worse than Bright is Gerald Malloy and our Lt Gov McMaster derailing the ethics bill that would require all elected officials to disclose their income. Both these assholes need to be removed. And they thought Bobby Harrell was bad. He does not hold a candle to The dishonorable Malloy and McMaster and they both need to be replaced ASAP. I will personally knock on doors and campaign against Malloy at my own expense if someone would run for his seat. A self serving scum is all you can say for both of these people.
Can someone help me understand why I can't get into the county building on Leeds Ave to pay my taxes without going through a scanner that picks up my cellphone, but visitors to state jails can smuggle them in?
Excuse me...."problem" that doesn't need solving.
'I've never been in a female bathroom with my daughter and I've certainly never been in one with anyone else's minor daugther. I don't care about the Christian / gay / whatever angle on this. But thanks for the productive and polite reply, as usual.'
Missing the point, as usual.
I've seen male and female children in the men's bathroom with their fathers. I was taken into female bathrooms with my mother when I was a child. It's socially acceptable for children to remain with their parents when they are small in the interest of safety. Or use family bathrooms where available.
It's a problem that doesn't need solving.
@Cid95, then what is your argument? The point @leemajors is making is that you have no argument. Parents do this very thing that you are describing on a daily basis. In your situation, you are trying to make this an issue by saying that you want to be allowed to go into the female bathroom with your daughter bc she is female. However, in this situation, the more appropriate thing to do and in my experience seems to be the standard, is that the person taking the child to the bathroom takes them to the bathroom of their gender identity(IE: Dads take daughters into the stall in the men's bathroom, etc) By that same token, that has never been an issue and is widely accepted as the standard. This resolution touts its main purpose as providing protection from having males use female restrooms and vice versa, but in reality the ultimate goal of this bill is to give those who identify as having "religious beliefs" a tool to discriminate against others based solely on their perception of others.
I've never been in a female bathroom with my daughter and I've certainly never been in one with anyone else's minor daugther. I don't care about the Christian / gay / whatever angle on this. But thanks for the productive and polite reply, as usual.
'When my 5 year old daughter needs to go into a public women's restroom, where I can't follow her based on my present understanding of state laws (correct or not?), and a male who "identifies" himself as transgender follows her in, can I also "identify" myself as transgender for the next 5 minutes to follow her in?'
What a disingenuous, moronic argument.
Fathers and mothers have been taking their children into the bathrooms forever, regardless of the biological sex of the child.
That is what makes this law so nebulous and nakedly discriminatory--no one has ever given a shit about it until some whitebread christian decided to solve a problem that doesn't exist because transgenders are 'icky' or something.
At some point folks are going to have to come to the realization that there are people who live differently and you can't make laws that prevent them from obtaining basic needs. Like employment. Like housing. Like a place to go to the bathroom.
Some folks have figured this out already and they are in charge of very big companies. Companies that would invest in our great state as long as we don't pass laws that are considered to be bigoted and deprive people of their basic needs and rights.
Stupid ones, like this one.
There are businesses and some rest stops that have a third.option usually.called family restroom . This is where you can take your disabled spouse (man/woman) or young child comfortably.
This resolution does nothing to eliminate the "potential" of predators entering and preying on minors. The small likelihood of that happening does not go away with this "protection" because there is no way of enforcing. Are we going to have bathroom police standing outside asking everyone for their birth certificates? No. I doubt very seriously that we're going to have people who aren't dressed as women wanting to go into the women's bathroom and vice versa, as with these people they are trying to blend into and be accepted as what they are presenting. What this resolution attempts to do is to create a tool for bigots to use to directly discriminate against someone based solely on their perception of that other person. Religion is protected under the US Constitutions first amendment but is so loosely defined that it allows federal protections for a "group of like-minded people who meet on a regular based to discuss shared beliefs." By that definition, any group could form a religion and refuse service to individuals based solely on whether they like them or not. This is a very slippery slope. Along the same lines, we eliminate the authority of national and international corporations to abide by federally mandated EEO standards that have been established over the last 60+yrs and essentially create a double standard for local business. This could create major economic backlash as it has in NC and GA already. This also puts our state educational institutions at a disadvantage to collect out of state tuition which is significantly higher than in state tuition for the same services and ultimately will go elsewhere.
Cid I've seen people including myself go in the wrong restroom, accidentally or otherwise. Many times. Never heard of it being a legal matter until recently. The "small government" crowd is at it again. Please save us from the scary people.
Putting all the drama aside, serious question:
When my 5 year old daughter needs to go into a public women's restroom, where I can't follow her based on my present understanding of state laws (correct or not?), and a male who "identifies" himself as transgender follows her in, can I also "identify" myself as transgender for the next 5 minutes to follow her in? If your wife/mother/daughter was also in that women's restroom would you be ok with me standing in there while my daughter was in the stall? Shouldn't we just make all restrooms unisex?
The resolution currently sits with the General Committee and is awaiting vetting to decide if this should go up for vote. Please join me in making our voices heard and letting the committee know that the people of this state will not provide a tool for bigotry and persecution for issues most just do not understand and thus fear. This link allows you to send one message to all committee members.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CALL YOUR SENATORS AT THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS AND LET THEM KNOW WE DON'T WANT SC TO CONTINUE TO BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NATION!! THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ALONE SHOULD SHOOT THIS DOWN!
"Speaking before the state Senate Wednesday, Bright compared the bill to a similar piece of legislation recently past in North Carolina, which"
'passed' not 'past' :)
Another day, another opportunity for Lee Bright to show just how backwards and uneducated he is.
Again! F*U*C*K Y*O*U !!!! You and your ilk are why our LGBT youth hate themselves, and some enough to commit suicide. Maybe Bright is a p.... himself and he is just trying to make others out to be the sickos instead by projecting his own desires onto those that are most vulnerable with his vile words and accusations.
Since MOST pedophiles identify as STRAIGHT, who the fuck is going to protect the children from the likes of YOU in multi-occupancy bathrooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, and showers, Lee (not so) Bright?!
“support for pedophiles by wanting them to go into bathrooms.” ?????????????????? F.U.C.K you Lee Bright. F.U.C.K Y.O.U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee is such a homophobic homosexual.
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