Lets make the minimum wage $35 an hour...better yet, lets make it $50 an hour. That way I can enjoy getting a second or third job just to afford a Big Mac. And the people on the new minimum wage will still have to pay the same price that I do.
yep, Cowboys shore need to be carryin their shootin iron
Religion IS the impetus for denying same-sex marriage.
Over my lifetime, it has become painfully clear where the roots of the LGBT community's persecution lies. If not for the various passages within all of religion's books (Bible, Qur'an, etc.), there would be no judgment, bigotry nor discrimination of our community - or of anyone, for that matter. Practically all civil-rights fights against discrimination have faced objections from the religious arena quoting various scriptures to validate this judgment, bigotry and/ or discrimination.
The judgments that are being cast down by Christianity, of course, have the greatest impact on the US LGBT population due to the majority of Christian followers vs. other faiths that live in this country.
The religious community bears ALL of the responsibility when it comes to our persecution because the disdain of our existence was created by the "writers" of the various "books" of the Bible with passages calling for our death by whatever barbaric means necessary. And, the fire-and-brimstone that is orated from the altars today on the matter only goes to incite more and more "Children of God" to harshly judge others. This persecution is the sole source of ALL anti-LBGT bias and leads some zealots to take action, whether it be political action through lobbying to stop equality or criminalize our existence, or lashing out with mental or verbal abuse, seemingly to shame us into changing WHO we are. And with the subject of our equality at the forefront today, more and more people are being incited into physical violence, sometimes resulting in permanent injury, or even death. Hence, we are in danger every day, every where and must always be on guard which is NO way to have to live.
Given this phenomenon, we are told to just hide and keep our sexuality to ourselves but this is really impossible on a day to day basis and flies in the face of love, honesty and integrity (all of which are strong tenets of all religions). There are some that say we should not "flaunt" our sexuality so as to not "advertise" who we are but why should we behave any differently in public from our "straight" brethren. "Straight" couples are encouraged, lauded and doted upon whenever they walk hand-in-hand down the street, sit on the same side of the table or give a peck on the cheek when meeting their partners in public - all acceptable behaviors. But if a couple in our community does the same, we are told to stop "flaunting" our sexuality and in many cases we are asked to leave so as not to make their "normal" customers feel uncomfortable. So the real abomination here is how we are treated by our fellow "Christian" human-beings.
In the workplace, if we need to take time off to attend to family matters, then we have to make a choice to lie or be truthful to our employer. Either way we fear the loss of a career due to the continuing persecution by the church and it's enormous influence on countless corporations. While some corporate policies may be inclusive, the individual managers may not feel the same way due to their "personal convictions" and a way will be found to derail a career.
Our respect is vital for many reasons but the biggest concern I have (I have lived thru it - and survived), is the fact that our LGBT children and youth are not accepted (more often actively demeaned/ bullied, even by parents and siblings) by society for who they are which leads to depression, self-loathing, mental issues and even death by suicide. Our youth cannot, and will not become LGBT if we are ever accepted by society but our LGBT youth will benefit immensely by knowing they are loved and respected unconditionally.
The church can all but eliminate the dangers our community faces on a day-to-day basis by taking a leadership role in the acceptance of all our citizens and stopping the judgment that is so clearly defined in scripture as being "God's" responsibility.
Just a note. "Normal" (for FFZ since we are to be considered abnormal) LEGAL cousin (1st) to cousin marriage is STILL legal in SC as well as ME, VT, NY, MA, RI, NJ, DE, MD, VA, CO, NC, AL, GA, FL, NM, CA, AK and HI. Morally this is, of course, WRONG!
"Normal" = "Straight" for bigots.
"anyone opposed to the dumbing down of the institution of marriage must be a hater wanting to deprive others of life and liberty"
This is why no one likes you. No one is "dumbing" down marriage by giving homosexuals the same right as heterosexuals. You can still have your religious Christian heterosexual church marriage, and nothing the government does should change the meaning of that for you. If you want to feel better about yourself for doing what you think your god would have wanted, then you can still do that. If you think that the government inclusion of LGBT into their definition of marriage changes your marriage in the eyes of your god, then I question your faith and understanding of that god.
The Christian church of the past created a poor version of marriage, completely devoid of real feelings like love and mutual respect. Society took marriage back and turned it into something with a bit more meaning. You rather boring to arguing with, because your opinions are completely devoid of free thought. You are jumping around and regurgitating the same religious right BS that has been going on since homosexuals started seeking fair treatment under the law. Your founding fathers argument was complete straw man, as stated before. The laws and rights given to the people during the creation of this nation were representative of progressive thinking in the late 1700's. These laws and rights have changed with society. For you to sit there and talk like you know exactly what a free thinker from 1776 would have wanted in modern day society is just asinine.
Your only two real arguments have been that the founding fathers set marriage up this way, and that YOUR religion wanted it this way. Both are poor arguments that prove nothing. We don't currently follow everything the founding fathers put in place, just like the religious institutions don't currently follow every single thing in the bible. The arguments for/against polygamy or cousin-cousin unions are interesting to bring up, because it shows precisely how we, as a society, can change the rules to fit what is best for us and the future. Both of those things were allowed by the church in the past, and even considered to be the norm. However, society decided they were not ok, even though religious texts disagreed. That is what we are seeing today. Society is decided that LGBT people are equal to heterosexuals, and thus we are moving to give them the same rights. Like it or not, that is how it is going to be. If the government is going to continue to play in the marriage game, gay and straight people are going to have to be on an even playing field when it comes to taxes and laws.
The more people with CWP's the better, cant have too many good guys carrying guns.
How many unlawful shootings by CWP holders in 2013 in SC? Nearly none, I bet.
How many arrests for firearms crimes resulted in "charges dismissed" in SC in 2013? Hundreds, I bet.
You can look at the second post in the thread, one you wrote, to see who brought religion into the discussion. When I shifted the argument to the Founders and away from religion, the response from this board was to call names in lieu of debate. If this board is representative of the collective intellect of the homosexual community and its sympathizers, it makes third-graders look brilliant.
You have those here who think marriage didn't exist in the Old Testament. You have those here who think because the Founders didn't codify marriage, they were somehow OK with same-sex relationships. (Apparently no one wanted to read the link in my post above or if any did read it, they couldn't provide a rebuttal). You have those here who continue to blow smoke about same-sex relationships being all about equality when the history of events in California regarding civil unions and Prop. 8 show otherwise. This board is ignorant of history.
And then we have you, Tupper, who gives the hackneyed response of the homosexual community that anyone opposed to the dumbing down of the institution of marriage must be a hater wanting to deprive others of life and liberty.
Come out of you choir of sympathizers on occasion, Tupper, and learn how to engage with those you disagree with. You should have learned to leave the whining and name-calling behind when you left elementary school.
And, BTW, I am in no way defending the McDonalds CEO's obscene compensation.
The only ones worse are those paid to major league sports players.
Really, Artrogue, quit bothering Mat with facts.
Here are a few more to make his hairline recede further:
The CEO of McDonalds total compensation for 2013 was $24,269,073.
Dividing that by the number of McDonalds employees (about 1.5 million http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_numb…) would give each of them $16 and change annually.
Assuming (since I don't know) that about 1.4 million of them make minimum wage, at $7.35/hr, 2000 hrs, that's $14,700 each, for a total of $2,058,000,000 in minimum wage salary.
At $ 15/hr, that goes to $4,200,000,000.
So this outrageous raise that is proposed would cost McDonalds only $2,142,000,000.
So sure, they can easily afford to increase payroll by over $2 billion.
Of course, for that much they could hire another 88.26 CEOs. This site disagrees, http://247wallst.com/jobs/2013/07/31/the-w…, but you get the idea.
An excerpt from that site:
As for the customer, how much more will a Big Mac cost if wages move from current levels to $15 an hour? According to a report in Forbes, a Big Mac that now costs $3.99 would have to rise to $4.67 to pay for the wage increase. Items on the Dollar Menu would rise to $1.17, and the cost of a Big Mac Meal would rise from $5.69 to $6.66. In other words, the increase to the customer would be more than 17% in some cases.
Now how are the poor people who eat at McDonalds going to afford that?
artrogue, seriously. If I gave a fuck about your opinion or your facts or your rankings, I'd let you know.
Using the system's own markers to prove the worth of the system is a bullshit method of determining if the system is valid. It's like people who say, "I know God is real because of the Bible."
Thank you CIACulinaryKid.
Just one point about ffz. He probably cannot help himself since most people are a result of the religious environment in which they are raised. I was able to break from my attempted brainwashing by the church once they started telling me how vile and despicable I was, not knowing they were directing their words at me, et al. My parents there taking it all in as well since they, of coursed, introduced me to religion by starting my indoctrination as a mere infant with the christening ritual. So I kind of understand his viewpoint because that is ALL he knows and did not broaden his intellect to be able to accept other's views and their differences. That part of the bible must have gotten passed over by him somehow and his focus is all negative and some just are not worthy - of life or liberty. Feel sorry him (up to a point given the incendiary remarks here), for he will always be angry and upset with those whom do not think or act exactly like him.
Machines do most of our work now...why do we have to work two jobs to pay bills now? Because the owners of these modern day plantations don't give a rats ass about anyone but themselves. They build giant mansions in kiawah for themselves and make a million dollars a year in profit off of one restaraunt. Then they pay people slave wages to buy another beach house. McDonalds needs nationalized. The owners are pigs and they don't deserve anything. A worker who works a place ten years for a 20 cent raise? Ya that's the low country for you. I can't wait till the bottom falls out of this war economy and you formerly rich pigs have to collect food stamps and eat kraft cheese.
hahahah... well what is the right side of history..of course, i know...
it is whatever you say it is.
Lets look closer...
First, list countries according to whether they are closer to the free market or the communist end of the economic spectrum.
Then rank countries according to per capita gross domestic product.
Finally, rank countries according to Freedom House's "Freedom in the World" report. People who live in countries closer to the free market end of the economic spectrum not only have far greater income than people who live in countries toward the communist end but also enjoy far greater human rights protections.
According to the 2012 "Economic Freedom of the World" report -- by James Gwartney, Robert Lawson and Joshua Hall -- nations ranking in the top quartile with regard to economic freedom had an average per capita GDP of $37,691 in 2010, compared with $5,188 for those in the bottom quartile.
In the freest nations, the average income of the poorest 10 percent of their populations was $11,382.
In the least free nations, it was $1,209.
Remarkably, the average income of the poorest 10 percent in the economically freer nations is more than twice the average income of those in the least free nations.
Free market benefits aren’t only measured in dollars and cents.
Life expectancy is 79.5 years in the freest nations and 61.6 years in the least free. Political and civil liberties are considerably greater in the economically free nations than in un-free nations.
You might argue that the free market doesn’t help the poor.
That argument can’t even pass the smell test.
Imagine that you are an unborn spirit and God or whatever u choose to belive condemned you to a life of poverty but gave you a choice of the country in which to be poor.
Which country would you choose?
To help with your choice, here are the facts provided by Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield in their report
“Understanding Poverty in the United States: Surprising Facts About America’s Poor” (9/13/2011)
- Eighty percent of American poor households have air conditioning.
- Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more.
- Almost two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
- Half have one or more computers. Forty-two percent own their homes.
- The average poor American has more living space than the typical non-poor person in Sweden, France and the U.K.
* Ninety-six percent of poor parents stated that their children were never hungry because they could not afford food.
The bottom line is that there is little or no material poverty in the U.S.
The Majority of the world's population just craves clean drinking water..and yet some of our fellow citizens cry about whether they can afford the latest smart phone.
That is sick and frustrating.
At the time of our nation’s birth, we were poor, but we established an institutional structure of free markets and limited government and became rich. Those riches were achieved long before today’s unwieldy government. Our having a free market and limited government more than anything else explains our wealth.
Most of our major problems are a result of government.
We Americans should recognize that unfettered government and crony capitalism, not unfettered markets, are the cause of our current economic problems and why the U.S. has sunk to the rank of 17th in the 2013 "Economic Freedom of the World" report.
lol - mat talking about anything to do with economics is like the newly discovered tribe in the Amazon explaining an I-Pad. Something he has and never will have a clue about.
"Prior to the rise of capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. "
Ain't a damn thing changed.
You people can cling to your backwards bullshit all you want, and white knight for the monied elites until the fires start climbing the skyscrapers....
But your days are numbered. Get on the right side of history.
Huddle House™ employees make more.
If you feel that you deserve to make more money based on your qualifications then you just may need look somewhere else.If in fact your qualifications fit the job,then what in the hell do you expect from Mac. Grow up &" GET-A-JOB".
Aren't they doing a prostate exam during the game too? I just think its weird that they are doing gay night and prostate massages or exams or whatever at the same game!
The have the nerve to call it the two knuckle challenge.. look it up if you don't believe me lol, its kinda disturbing actually
"If a McDonald's employee produced 21.72 /hr in productivity, and was only being paid 7.35 / hr, then McDonald's would always be hiring, because each worker it hired would be extraordinarily profitable. "
You tell em Julie !
If my small family business is forced to pay someone, with no skills, 15.00 dollars a hour than we will be shutting the doors. That puts 8 more people, who are currently raising families and makin ends meet, on the government payroll..but maybe that is the point?!?
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