The leadership of the Boy Scouts of America believes this proposed change is the right thing to do for God, for the boys, and for America.
They point out that no one gets kicked out of any of the participating churches just because someone says they are attracted to someone of the same sex.
They also strongly object to the idea that this proposal will mean an increase in sexual abuse.
This proposal if adopted will help boys grow with the Lord's help to become more loving and helpful men.
Gay does not mean pedophile. What is everyone so upset about?
I guess gay youths will continue to get all of their irrational attitudes of submission to authority from schools and sports.
Oh well.
If BSA National signs off on this gay is ok until adulthood it will be progress. But will fall short of the need for a complete ban on discrimination for gay scout masters as well as scouts.
How not shocking that local Scout troops think we pose a demonic threat to children.
It's 2013 local Scoutmasters,, even in SC. Some of these kids are gay or will have gay friends,neighbors,teachers, co-workers or bosses etc etc. Can't lock them in the basement the rest of their lives.
Funny, The Girl Scouts have never banned anyone,so that org is immoral and depraved too?
So tiresome.
Wow, this is a totally shocking result. Wait, I mean "predictable," not "shocking." If BSA wants to stick to their guns on this issue, more power to them; they're a private organization and they need to do right by the actual members.
I was a scout for 10 years and worked at scout camp for three, and I'm troubled by this new holy-roller version of the BSA. It pains me to think that I can't send my son to learn about knot-tying, camping, hiking, first aid, and all the other self-reliance skills that BSA is built on without subjecting him to a bunch of gay-bashing and bible-thumping. But if that's what BSA is all about now, then that's what they're about. They've made their lean-to and will have to lie under it.
These youth organizations are already splintering into different groups. There is a religious based scout like organization which is rapidly growing, a conservative scouting movement and, I would guess somewhere, a liberal program of some sort. The contest which matters will end up between the traditional scouting movement and the religious youth programs. The big mega churches prefer to do everything in house and on their own budgets.
OK, then, nofaith - why don't you tell us who is qualified to be the acting Chair of the FCC or what those qualifications even are? Perhaps you could enlighten us on why Tom Wheeler, a venture capitalist, is qualified. Perhaps it is the money he donated to the President's re-election? Or perhaps he has long been a lobbyist for the very industry he may end up regulating?
Conservatives are only concerned about qualifications for government when they aren't calling the shots. You certainly didn't complain when George W. Bush filled up key government positions with wildly unqualified goons - except when those goons then went on to fail miserably at the jobs they were in, at which point you pointed and cried, "Government is ineffective."
It's a brilliant game, but it's utter crap.
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John,
The media does not care about the hundreds of other groups scrutinized by the IRS. Only the 75 conservative groups count, since those are the ones they can raise the specter of scandal over.
As someone who was on the board of a non-profit on the other side of the argument from the tea party I can vouch that what they got was almost identical to the way our group was treated. All 501c3 groups go through the same thing to verify that they aren't being used to funnel money to candidates and issues under the table, illegally.
The head of the PSC and ran a newspaper with a circulation around 10k tops for fourteen years has so much experience that she should be put into a key position with the FCC and on a fast track to run the Commission. Real smart. And I am not so sure how she got rich, her family ran a small newspaper that targeted a small market and then she worked in government. Not usually a path to wealth without corruption.
As for her race or gender, it is liberals that worry about those things, not conservatives. Liberals are so trained to believe that is they way they should make all decisions that they fail to worry about things like experience, talent and ability to actually do the job. Liberals are the hate mongers that they accuse their opponents of being. Facts just do not bear out the "I know you are but what am I" bullshit liberals like to pull when the are confronted about their blind hatred and intolerance.
My issue is whether or not she is qualified, which based on experience she most likely isn't, and I doubt seriously she is the best qualified person out there for the job. But, qualification and ability doesn't matter, especially in this administration.
Wow, that's not delusional.
What's wrong with a black head of the FCC? What's wrong with there being a black Attorney General, a black Inspector General (Head of the General Accounting Office); a black TV Czar? What's wrong with blacks filling more and more key positions in government, the IRS, the court system, and the military? What's wrong with the Obama administration demanding that the Associated Press reveal its sources? It really shouldn't be of any concern. But it may be a good reason to remember that June is HAM Month (Hug a Minority.) Just in case any of those people bear a grudge against Colonial America, WASP, and right wingers. More needs to be done to let blacks know they are appreciated in this country. After all, they are running most of it. And their influence will be around for a long, long, time.
She's sat on the board for nearly four years. She was a member of the Public Service Commission for 11 years. She ran a newspaper before that.
What, exactly, makes you think she is not qualified to be the acting Chair of the FCC - aside from the fact that she isn't white or male?
She's still rich - and that's what really matters.
Hamilton is a turd. Professes his love of these idyllic cities of the Northeast, while laying around his computer and bitching about what we have here. Touts his admiration of urban transit and biking, when it's apparent to anyone looking at his pic that he couldn't bike to Krispy Kreme if they were giving donuts away. Writes diatribes in the Moultrie News about withholding Halloween candy from the neighborhood kids unless they bow down and profess their love of communist figures, thinly veiled as a Jeopardy style quiz show. And endorses (as well as sends his money and brainwashed children to) "a college" that once invited a Black Panther and convicted cop killer to give the commencement speech. You're a real winner, hammy. You should really look into taking your "talents" (whatever they may be) to Venezuela or Iran, where they'd be more appreciated. You, William J. Hamilton, are useless and a cancer on our area. The quicker you'd pack up and move to one of your Avatar-inspired wannabe socialist villages, the happier the rest of us will all be. Ignore everything this moron has (past and present) and will write. He has no credibility and is simply an idiotic sham.
Must be nice to have your father get you your job and then be elevated to one of the best jobs in DC with virtually no experience whatsoever in what you are doing.
Vic Rawl votes to complete I526, as Joe commanded, then City Planners scuttle Vic's plan to build on his John's Island property, then Joe tosses the planning commissions unanimous nay vote so Vic can build and make his fortune.
A sterling example of 'you scratch mine I'll scratch yours' - - political pay-off. Boss Hog politics is/are alive and well here in Charleston. What! No Sled investigation - - - yet ?
"will stand along their coastlines in solidarity".......rotflmbo!
I hope they will all walk, hand in hand, for thirty minutes, due east.
Wow. Who knew that the IRS had so many fans?
Our tax code is so massive that it is not possible for a plurality of Americans to file their own tax returns. Is that what we want? Is that the best we can do?
Should anyone be surprised that an administration would use political power to leverage the regulatory power of the IRS against their political enemies? FDR and Nixon did it. So has Obama. Or maybe it's just a coincidence that after "the shellacking" of the 2010 midterms (the product of the Tea Party groundswell), certain organizations affiliated with the Tea Party were targeted for "special" treatment by the IRS.
Even if Obama had nothing to do with this, the thought that a government entity would single out certain individuals or organizations, just because they happen to oppose the current administrations' policies, should give everyone pause to think about whether that is "government of, by, and for the people" that we all champion.
Heads must roll over this. Getting the acting head of the IRS to retire two weeks early is not addressing the problem.
IF you still think that the IRS is a model of efficiency, check out form 1023, the one that the 30 people who make up the Laurens County Tea Party had to file in order to raise funds as a non profit 501c4.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf
Read the whole form. See you in an hour.
Then come back and tell me how the IRS cannot be improved upon.
It's time to scrap the current tax code and implement a flat tax. If 10% is enough for God, it should be enough for the government, too.
One more thing. MoveOn.org is a 501c4 organization with a PAC. Mr. Hamilton's assertion that the Tea Party is "primarily a political organization" is reason enough to deny it 501c4 status rings a bit hollow, in light of these statements from MoveOn's website:
"MoveOn is a community of more than 8 million Americans from all walks of life who are using the most innovative technology to lead, participate in, and win campaigns for progressive change........MoveOn members have been part of game-changing electoral victories, including the 2006 Democratic takeover of the House of Representatives, and the election and re-election of President Obama."
Hmm.
That sounds suspiciously like a group that might be "primarily a political organization". I wonder if future IRS commissioners should reexamine MoveOn's 501c4 status?
Sauce for the goose, eh, Mr. Hamilton?
I'm saying this as a person who participates in the operation of a non-Christian religious organization that had to renew our 501c3 status after we changed our name a few years ago, we had to go through the same hoops as this group complains about, and we had no political affiliations of any kind and had been in existence for more than 30 years under our previous name. The Tea Party is nothing special, and did not get treated any different than any other organization seeking tax-exempt status.
Re: “Lowcountry Boy Scout reps to vote no on gay inclusion”
Because nothing is currently gay about a bunch of dudes hanging out in the woods together in short shorts and neckerchiefs.