Judge Not , That you be not judged. Matt. 7:1, Some have taken these words of Jesus too far and teach that Christians must not Judge at all. However, if that is what this passage means, then we have a problem because Jesus tells us in other scriptures that we must "decern" or Judge certain things and people.
Again the words of Jesus are plain when He said, " Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24 ).
The term "decern" denotes: "a disinguishing, judging by evidence whether they are evil or of God". According to Hebrews 5:14 Christians who are mature can discriminate or judge between good and evil. Therefore, the words of Jesus were not a blanket condemnation of judging .
We must of necessity judge people. We must discern those with whom we associate with, ( 1 Cor. 15:33 ). I always encourage people not to get in a bad crowd, because eventually they will be influenced by their sin. We must judge Preachers ! Yes , people must judge those who preach the gospel. John taught the brethren, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God: because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1 ).
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No. I am not casting stones Fish. I am giving you God's Word on how you are to conduct yourself in life, like all men are to do. God's Word on the matter is not error Fish.
Sounds as if you don't like to be exposed , you don't want anyone to Judge your conduct , your Deeds, your Fruits, These things God has commanded His people to Judge . we leave the person to God. but we do expose their sins which are their deeds . as we expose the false teachers which Christ commands us to do, teaching false doctrines, false Gospel, we are even to expose the error of our members within the church body, and rebuke and reprove them and Discipline them when necessary,
But we do all this discernment according to God's standards not ours. Which means we are to use the Holy Scriptures to Judge others. again. 2 Tim . 3:16 commands us to use His Word for Doctrine,for reproof,for correction, and for instruction in righteousness."Fish you have been Deceived into believing that using God's Inspired Word to bring the errors of others into the light, is somehow , taking God's name in vain" I do not know where you get that from . other than satans book of iniquity. . and to accuse me of being prideful is far beyond the pale. I do have much sorrow for you being led down that wide path to destruction, where the majority of the world is on today. All this is to help you see the light .The Time to repent and change is today Fish, seek the Lord and His ways and ask for forgiveness. I hope i have shown you through God's Word , wherein that you need to focus . Amen !
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Clarkie, you wish to ignore the words "that ye be not judged." You wish to cast stones at others while ignoring your own sins. You are self-righteous and prideful. You are full of hate and malice. You seek sacrifices and refuse to show mercy. God's Word is clear. We should not be tolerant nor soften our judgement of your wickedness. You must repent or there will be no forgiveness for you. By thy words thou shalt be condemned. I have tried to meekly show you the error of your ways but at this point I feel as though I'm casting pearls before swine. You refuse to see the error of your ways and you will suffer eternally in the hereafter.
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Fish read down a few more verses in Matt 7:1-6, and you will find out who Christ was referring to, the Jewish-teachers who added their own laws. besides Christ never placed a blanket command not to Judge. In John 7:24 Christ said . "To Judge righteous Judgment " of which we are to use God's Word to Judge all things. I quoted you the New testament concerning the Homosexual conduct as a sin that Christ did not condone, matter of fact Christ said that those who do such things shall not see the Kingdom of God . Perhaps you should read more of the New Testament concerning those who will not see the Kingdom of God !.In Romans 1:24-27 is God's Description of the Sodomite's (homosexual/Gay) .Eph. 5:5 also speaks of them as "unclean person",perhaps you need to read "Webster's definition of an "abomination "(extreme disgust and hatred" "abhorrence:detestation; Fish , the Lord doesn't change His Word concerning these "Vile" people as such , in their present state as they continue in that conduct. Now back to Judging, when we Judge a persons conduct and use God's ordained Word against that sin we aren't doing the Judging , for God has already Judged them , we are repeating what God has said concerning them. Did not Christ say to the man "You have rightly Judged" ? and again in John 7 did not the Word of God say . Judge righteous Judgment, ? Fish do you know what that means ? It means we are to use God's Word to Judge all things, shall we change the wording and meaning what God said, so that we do not offend others ? NO ! should we soften the Judging to be more tolerant ? NO. ! We are to tell them what God has said concerning their sinful ways and the Need to repent of them and change their heart on the matter. Fish God requires the need of Repentence from all sins and change according to the will of God , forgiveness doesn't come without Repentance and change....And it must be a heart repentance not a head one . "offenses shall come according to Christ" and Christ was not tolerant of any sin "When Christ told the woman to, "go and sin no more"That was a warning to her, not because Christ tolerated her sin . Fish what have you "Judged today" ? Why do the Sodomites want Minced Titles preferred"Homosexual/gay" ? That is like calling a drunkard an alcoholic, or calling a thief a cleptomaniac, The sharp words of God are" quick, and powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword."being that the Minced title of today is "Gays", This only gives a partial definition of what a Sodomite is, and the sharp edge of the word of God is gone .2 Peter 2:6 also tells us What God did to them as an example for those that after should live "Ungodly".
Clarkie, Matthew 7:1 says, "judge not, that ye be not judged." You should remember this. When you start calling people "perverts" and saying they are "sick" and boasting of what God will or will not "put up with", you reveal the hate and malice inside you. Your self-righteous condemnations do not serve to teach this poor soul about salvation but only to proclaim to the readers of the City Paper that you are holier than thou. Jesus said, "I will have mercy, not sacrifice," and yet you show no mercy and only preach of how the Old Testament would require her death. It is you who are denying His Truth. Beware.
Understand that I am not judging you but simply agreeing with God that you do not deserve a place in the Kingdom of Heaven and agree with God's judgement that you should burn in Hell for eternity for your pride and wickedness.
I think I'll release an mp3 of me reading some of Clarkie's greatest hits sometime next month.
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I do not hate my Brother in the Faith Fish, never have and never will. Where do you get I hate ? Because i quote the verses of God's Word to you ? Seems that you do have a problem with the truth. are you one of those who picks verses you like and don't like the ones that go against you ? you inject your assumsions that if someone agrees with God's word on a matter you call it hate and taking God's Name in vain ? and you post verses out of context concerning the Subject matter at issue ! Fish do you feel quilty about something?
Clarkie, save your lies. You'll have to answer for them soon enough. If you can't fool us, you won't fool God. Proverbs 21:2 "Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts. "
And remember 1 John 3:15, "Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him."
Fish , where did I say I hated anyone ? that is your assumption. Be careful . God has said what those were to do with those who do such things as Homosexuality, I the Old testament , they were to be put to Death. rerad your scri[ptures... And in the new testament Christ taught that those were to repent and change their wicked ways concerning that. Or they would be cast into the Lake of Fire to be tormented for eternity. Christ has condemned that sort of sin, as well as other sins of the flesh. Romans deals with the Homosexual, Lesbian, and adulterer's, Murderers, and those who steal as well. . these will not see the Kingdom of God . verse 27 of Romans 1 speaks concerning men with men (homosexuals)leaving the natural use of the woman and burned in their lust one towards another,men with men,working that which is unseemly,verse 26 also says, For this cause "GOD" gave them up into vile affections:meaning degrading passions, which is the lowest form that man can bring himself to. God called them unclean because of the "LUST" of their hearts,to DISHONOR their own bodies between themselves "verse"24. Fish, The Bible Says this , because its God's Word to all men, teaching it and saying it does not take the Lords name in Vain, people say that to keep others from telling the truth concerning the Gospel. Read 2 Tim. 3:16.."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:. Fish perhaps you ought to try and read and study the truth instead of mocking God's Word to You. I have heard your type before Fish. Fish have you seen one word I used to say I hated these people or any other person. I quote scriptures Fish I even give you the Chap. and verse. And remember , Its "GODS" word not mine .God Judges and condemns , and also punishes , you have a problem with God . not me . I just agree with God and His Precepts concerning man and his sinful ways ...There is no pride in that Fish unless you inject it on your own. I hate no one , I condemn No one, I Judge no one . God has already done so . I Just agree . Have a nice day Fish.
Well, now that "Clarkie" is back on the P and C site maybe he will go away from here.
Every day, it seems, my resolve to remain a practicing Christian is eroded by those who flaunt that title, hearts filled with vigor and enthusiasm to condemn homosexuality and science. I am increasingly embarrassed by my faith, as a man of science that bears no ill will toward homosexuals whatsoever. To whom do I turn in this spiritual quuandary? According to his followers, God doesn't want to hear it.
Clarkie, vain means excessively prideful. When you use God's name to condemn others, you are taking his name in vain and committing sin.
You are as the men in John 8:5 who want to condemn the adulterer, "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned." But Jesus does not stone her. He shames the men in their pride.
Galatians 6:1, "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted."
As you willfully continue to take God's name in vain and continue to insist on shouting "God says you must be like this" and "God says you must do that" at people, in the very opposite of meekness, I cannot imagine the hellish punishment that will await you unless you repent and open your heart to your brothers.
1 John 2:9, "He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now."
I'm sorry, Mikelee/Clarkie. I should have added the qualifier "theocratic" to "fascist".
How many accounts do you have here now?
Mat Cast, I don't necessarily agree with all Clarkie said, but I did not infer any endorsement for fascism in his comments.
Why toss inflammatory cliches in social discourse? Lack of vocabulary, or pertinent opinion?
Words should mean something.
Didn't say i hated them . just their conduct, and God also condemned it as a sin,God has already done the Judging of this as well as other sins that men do.I just agree what God says in His word concerning them and those sins. Fish, God is the one who has put the Moral law before all men to obey.
Your Quote on "Go and sin no more" was to the woman caught in adultery, The Lord gave her a warning , and the one without sin cast the first stone ,was to the men who brought the woman caught in adultery but they forgot to bring the man who committed adultery with her.. Oh ! and Fish. I do not claim to speak for God, God has already spoken concerning this sin, i Just agree with God No pride involved in that. And where do I take the Lords name in vain Fish ? Hmmmm?.
The Lord may have ate with people . But He did not condone their sins . The Lords word doesn't change, and the Lord God doesn't change either, Time doesn't change His Word or commands either ,The same today tomorrow and yesterday.. The quran was written some 100 years after the death of muhammad, and Christ was teaching the Gospel and planting His churches some 600 years before Islam was even known or the first Muslim . mat, you really need to control your name calling ....it doesn'
t sound good.
"Are churches and Ministers condoning this sort of sickness ? Christ and God sure are not ."
As you continually take the Lord God's name in vain, you are a sinner and breaker of His Commandments. How dare you claim to speak for God! Your pride, the most serious sin of all, blinds you to Jesus' wisdom contained in John 8:7 "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"
I hope nobody is foolish enough to take spiritual advice from such an immoral sinner as clarkie. There is a punishment coming to be sure. Now clarkie, go and sin no more.
As a muslim i'm not a fan of homosexuality but at the same time we need to realize that the bible and quran were written a VERY long time ago and that times are very different, i have friends that are gay/lesbian and i dont see anything wrong with them being in the boy scouts, girl scout, or venture crews, to hate someone based on beliefs, feelings, or otherwise is worse than racism in my opinion, and its sad that people who say they are christian and try to "act like christ" are really not, i'm pretty sure the phophet jesus (peace be unto him) would care less if someone was a homosexual. I mean he hung out with a whore if you do recall. I guess basiclly what i'm getting at here is that if your a christian, at the end of the day thats your choice, and your choice alone, if someone honestly thinks they were ment to be a different gender then that is thier choice, and thiers alone. I also beleve jesuse also said that "he that is without sin cast the first stone" and the only thing in this world with sin is allah/god. So how about we just let people be?
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